Despite being 2-1, the Bengals haven't exactly been a very impressive football team.
As Week 4 approaches, Cleveland Browns fans can only hope for a victory this week against the Cincinnati Bengals. It seems a little awkward when you compare the two teams in the Battle of Ohio this week. The expectations for the Browns weren't very high heading into the season, but I get the sense that this team could easily have been 3-0 rather than 0-3. On the flip side, the Bengals are sitting at a record of 2-1, but I could easily see them being 0-3.
Each team has underachieved in their own right. For the Browns, it has been a combination of horrid second half offense and a poor game from a cornerback last week. For the Bengals, it has been the combination of a horrid defense one week and their offense never really living up to expectations in any game.
While the records don't indicate it, I think both of these teams will be battling head-to-head on a rather even playing field this Sunday. With many of the Browns' players ready to return from injury, could that end up being the difference maker.
Here is what the Browns have going for them:
First and foremost, the Browns found their identity on offense, and that is Peyton Hillis. Besides his fumbles in Week 1, he has ran the ball better than expected and is also a consistent threat out of the backfield. Teams seem to be ignoring him in the flat, and if they continue to do so, that's an easy throw for our quarterbacks. If they start coming up to cover him, then that should open some more things for our receivers and tight ends.
RB Jerome Harrison returned to practice, a player I am still very high on. With that said, given Hillis' production, I'd be crazy to call for the slow-starting Harrison to receive more touches this week. It'll be interesting to see how the team utilizes Harrison this week, because this goes back to the potential issue when Jamal Lewis was here.
I was fine with giving Lewis some carries (when he was doing well), but the problem was that Harrison was never utilized. If Hillis is the featured back now, Harrison can still be an asset on screen plays or as a change of pace back to the outside. I think defenses will still respect him if they see a playaction fake too.
WR Brian Robiskie was at practice Wednesday too, and there's nothing wrong with him being inserted back into the starting lineup. Why? Because, as I've mentioned all season, Joshua Cribbs is a player who can be the No. 1, No. 2, No. 3, No. 4 receiver, RB, QB, etc. on any given play. It's almost like a rotation. Robiskie hasn't had the chance to shine yet, but I think he'll do better once Jake Delhomme gets back.
Speaking of Jake Delhomme, I really hope he is at practice today like Eric Mangini suggested. While I commend Seneca Wallace for what he has done the past two games, I still haven't gotten my "fill" of Delhomme running the offense. Remember, he had a tremendous preseason and looked to be in sync with Mohamed Massaquoi, Ben Watson, and Chansi Stuckey. That's not to say he wasn't in sync with Robiskie or Cribbs, but I think he demonstrated the ability to make his reads quicker and get the ball to the right player.
UPDATE: The ABJ notes that Mangini stated Delhomme will start against the Bengals if healthy. That might seem like an obvious statement, but if he is healthy enough to practice Thursday and Friday, then I think that is a sign that he'll start. Mangini confirmed this morning that Delhomme will practice today (Thursday).
On the offensive line front, wouldn't it be great to see Shawn Lauvao and Tony Pashos starting this week? John St. Clair sat out of Wednesday's practice, and Lauvao finally practiced (in a limtied role).
Defensively, Marcus Benard is back. Although Carson Palmer ran all over the Browns last year, we need a guy who can get pressure on the quarterback more often to try to prevent our cornerbacks from being on an island too often.
My confidence in Eric Wright right now? It's still high. He needs to forget about last week's game and focus on covering players he's faced several times in his career (Chad Ochocinco or Terrell Owens).
The Browns were without Shaun Rogers, Robaire Smith, or Kenyon Coleman in Wednesday's and Thursday's practices, so that's really the noteworthy position to watch this week on the injury reports. Mangini stated that all three are expected to practice on Friday.
More information should be out shortly regarding who is practicing Thursday.
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What is Rogers’ status these days? Will we see him at all this season?
It was a broken leg towards the end of last year that put him out for the season. Haven’t really heard much in the way of a recovery timeline – worries the hell out of me.
Rogers played Week 1, and I thought he played Week 2. He missed last week with “hip and ankle issues.” Mangini included Rogers in the list of players who are expected to participate in practice on Friday.
Browns win a tight one with a final score of 35-30
Hillis: Rushes 25x for 155yds and 2 TD’s
Watson/Moore: 7 Catches between the two for 2 TD’s
Defense will hold Palmer under 200yds in the air and Benson to 80yds on the ground with a Pick 6 at some point in the game.
Tomorrow’s Powerball: 6,9,14,25,32,40 and a PB of 19.
The correct spelling is
I-R-R-A-T-I-O-N-A-L O-P-T-I-M-I-S-M
Put me in that irrationally optimistic group. I really think the alternative is unimaginable. I mean, if the Browns lose another tight one, I expect Mangini will literally explode on the sideline, like spontaneous human combustion stuff…
-Take it easy with Hillis, he should last. It´s nice that you see him at the pinnacle immediately, but you have to give this juggernaut, a scheme of persistence, timing and efficacy. The best solution is to figure in a tailback. I saw the highlights versus the Ravens, and the combo Hillis/Vickers looked real good. I swear that will give you 6 yards per punch, we´d be in a position to get first downs at will, exactly what the doctor ordered to get a decent passing game going. Just don´t be so predictable, we need to get away from the sold out pass on the first two downs (especially all fly patterns), run on the third and punt on the fourth. Sock it to them, then throw it, I don´t mind being predictable in that regard at all, then throw at will, once that´s established. Throw that wildcat in if you want to, but they should know their main predicament is a running game they must respect.
-Jerome Harrison is a scat back size wise, not terribly fast, but a hefty runner at that size. I agree that he´s a situational type guy. James Davis, with either Vickers or Hillis, or both, has the fundamental skills, to be a great little tailback. Tailback, mind you. Halfback or feature back as you call it, sorry, not so much. Keep your eyes peeled for “tailbacks”, I bet there are some that were cut the past few years, because they failed at the highly unrealistic single back formation. I reiterate what I once stated, namely, that even for Barry Sanders that formation was quite the challenge.
-Brian Robiskie was successful in college as a man amongst boys type, he used good body positioning on most of his catches. Something a tight-end would do in the NFL. Once again my challenge to him is specialize. Be an end-zone threat, or a possession receiver, continue to hone your skills, because you are neither fast or intimidating in the NFL. Jumping? Probably also not exceptional. Maybe you should order a pair of those weird plateau, heelless, basketball jump improvement shoes.
-At this point, if you don´t want to break in Colt McCoy, while we´re not exactly sizzling, I think Seneca Wallace is the more exciting player, even if not accustomed to winning under Holmgren. Delhomme should do exactly what he came here for, apply for his pension in Cleveland.
-I want Massaquoi challenged constantly. Lets see if he´s the real deal for a number one receiver.
-Regarding the defense. We need marquee players, ones that will sell jerseys to fans. Currently I count: NG Shaun Rogers, DT Ahtyba Rubin, S Abe Elam…Eric Wright as a physical FS maybe. If we ever arrive at an 1985 Bears lineup or a 70ties Steelers or Raiders line-up, where you could sell 11 defensive jerseys, we´ve arrived.
Until then: Look good, play good. How you play it should get you who plays it.
I can’t tell whether I’m buying into your philosophy more, or if you’re the one who has adapted. Either way, good post. I agree on Massaquoi. While I don’t want this to be a pass-happy team, it’s always nice to know if you have a true No. 1 receiver or not, and the only way to find that out is to give him some more looks.
Defensively, switch T.J. Ward with Abram Elam and then we’re talkin’ ;)
Yes Pokorny, a bit iffy, I guess. I´m not an executive, I´m an idea person lacking implementators, I always thought that shtick was discernable.
T.J. Ward has star potential, he´d be rabid though, and a Lynch rewarded scenario at safety, with the concussion preogative medically at the moment, too risky. I prefer steady eddy Abe Elam at strong safety. T.J. Ward goes into the lost and found bin, actually found/not afforded. When we finally convince the apparatus, that football is an eternal contact sport, and that is physiologically impossible to unscrew your head or get the offense and defense to face the same direction by the rules, then we can afford impact players at DB.
I think Mangini keeps putting stuff in the Arsenal box for Daboll and Ryan to sit on. Wonder if he´ll take that cache with him unopened on his way out.
Quinn/Anderson was perilous, because their contract situations gave them the chance to conscientiously alter their individual levels of performance. That´s why they are gone, but allowed to succeed on their own, somewhere else.
Good old fashioned quarterback controversies minus an agitative financial scenario? Knock yourself out.
I’ve heard several sports commentators use the term “Brady Quinn-esque” to refer to a QB who is indecisive or one that checks off a lot… always makes me chuckle a little.
I was more confused about the “conscientiously alter their individual levels of performance” part. So, Quinn’s structured contract along with his poor play was a reflection of his desire to make less money?
Like the Browns, the Bengals have a knack for playing ugly 15-10 type games. Unlike the Browns, they have a knack for winning them. That suggests to me that we’re going to have another frustrating just-out-of-reach game, but hopefully things will bounce right in the end this time. Certainly the Bengal offense doesn’t scare me much, but they’re probably saying the same thing about ours.
Let’s not forget how penalties have hurt the Browns this year. Last year’s success involved much more discipline on that front, and I expect to see a similar dynamic this season.
I’ve been wondering about this a lot. Last year Mangini was a discipline-nazi (so it was said) and it paid off with very few penalties. Now we have more laid back Mangini and we have an 85% increase in penalties.
Well I didn’t really see it as a joke and other people didn’t either (see BY’s comment above), so there is no reason to make a comment like that. If you have a problem with a comment then either email one of us or flag the comment.
I thought this goes without saying, but I just want to point out that the context in which a word or phrase is used determines if it’s offensive or not. So just because you might have been warned about something in one situation doesn’t mean another person saying something which seems similar also will be warned or the comment deleted. A little bit of common sense is necessary.
I don’t think making any type of jokes about which comments need to be deleted are appropriate, because they can be interpreted by some people the wrong way.
I’d like to point out an interesting fact… The Bengals are 2-1, while the Browns are 0-3. I took a little jaunt over to the Bengals DBN site and their fan confidence is lower than ours (and dropping, whereas ours is on the rise). Interesting.
our fan confidence has only gone up in the past week. fans have only had confidence because we almost beat a team we should have lost to. if you look at the 2 weeks prior, the fan confidence plummeted.
Good post. I see the Browns being conservative on offense no matter who starts at QB. Lots of handing off the ball and it is likely the Bengals will come out setup to stop the run. If the Browns can adjust to this or come out with a creative gameplan on offense, they might score a quick TD but frankly, I have no confidence in the coaching staff to pull off something unexpected like that. The conservative mode on offense will keep the Browns in the game, but it won’t win against the Bengals in my opinion so I think we will be looking at another loss. This makes me sad.
Cinci’s o-line has struggled thus far and I think we’re going to get to see Benard and Rogers back. I think this is the week we get some good pressure on the QB.
Yeah, well, doesn’t mean he won’t be good against us. Looks like his best game was in Week 1 against New England, whose defense seems to be struggling.
I agree with us coming out with lots of ground n pound on offense. I then see us opening up some play action, thus getting the TE’s and WR’s some catches. Then you continue to keep the two mixed and not predictable, all while maintaining good defense. This is how we will win this year. This is our offense this year. Daboll, are you LISTENING!
I agree with the strategy but I don’t have a lot of faith in Daboll’s ability to plan the tactics nor the team’s ability to execute the play-action part against the Bengals. I’ll still enjoy watching though. I’ve actually enjoyed watching all the games this year in spite of the losses. And with the lack of interest in the Indians (they were last in attendance this year) and that bouncy-ball-slamma-jamma-league—can’t remember what it is called but my favorite teams is the Whoever-is-playing-Miamis, I have to be pretty happy to watch the NFL.
I realize this may not be the ideal thread for this info (down rufio) but….
After 3 games the Browns:
1st Dn: 40 rushing plays (4.28 average yards per rush), 35 passing plays (5.8 average yards per passing play)
2nd Dn: 27 rushing plays (4.44 average yards per rush), 34 passing plays (5.65 average yards per passing play)
3rd Dn: 10 rushing plays (3.8 average yards per rush), 27 passing plays (7.48 average yards per passing play)
4th Dn: 0 rushing plays (0 average yards per rush), 1 passing plays (0 average yards per passing play)
The Bengals:
1st Dn: 46 rushing plays (3.85 average yards per rush), 47 passing plays (6.83 average yards per passing play)
2nd Dn: 32 rushing plays (2.59 average yards per rush), 38 passing plays (6 average yards per passing play)
3rd Dn: 8 rushing plays (1 average yards per rush), 42 passing plays (3.4 average yards per passing play)
4th Dn: 3 rushing plays (3.33 average yards per rush), 1 passing plays (10 average yards per passing play)
if this gets a positive response i’ll try to keep it updated thru the year.
I like this info, and as a suggestion how about making it a fanpost every week or something? maybe chris could work it into the game preview somehow?
I look at this and I immediately notice the Browns have been in a lot of 2nd and mediums. I’d like to see us run more often on second down in order to set up a 3rd and short. I really like our YPA on third down.
I’m amazed at how poor some of those cinci numbers are.
Head-scratching numbers. The Browns outgain the Bengals in nearly all of these data points. Pretty much supports the optimism many of the Browns fans have leading in to the game…
I think the win will come this week. Follwed by another win next week. I think it is conceivable that this team will be at worst 2-5 going into the bye week. Thoughts?
I was feeling pretty optimistic about this game, but the injuries on the DL make me nervous. We are potentially looking at starting Rubin, Schaefering and Robinson. I seem to recall that Schaefering played decently, but Robinson I don’t know about -as in really, I don’t know anything about him.
I like Schaefering a lot. With all of the injuries, it might be a good time to make use of some of these big ass linebackers we have. I know Roth can play with his hand in the dirt and so can Gocong.
What is Rogers’ status these days? Will we see him at all this season?
Andrew Tolliver - September 30, 2010
Honestly, I don’t know what was wrong with him in the first place. Leg or something I believe.
Kimble_79 - September 30, 2010
It was a broken leg towards the end of last year that put him out for the season. Haven’t really heard much in the way of a recovery timeline – worries the hell out of me.
Andrew Tolliver - September 30, 2010
Rogers played Week 1, and I thought he played Week 2. He missed last week with “hip and ankle issues.” Mangini included Rogers in the list of players who are expected to participate in practice on Friday.
Chris Pokorny - September 30, 2010
You’re right. He played in week 2 as well.
He is listed on the injury report with a hip and ankle.
Bernie19Kosar - September 30, 2010
I’m disappointed with Rogers this year. Seems MIA even when in the game.
Brownsyup - September 30, 2010
Yeah, I’m not sure everything is quite right with him. Obviously not with the injury status.
Western Reserve - September 30, 2010
This is hard to know but I suspect an effort issue.
Brownsyup - September 30, 2010
That would be unfortunate.
Western Reserve - September 30, 2010
Let’s assume that it’s an injury issue so long as he’s listed on the injury report.
golanbatrac - September 30, 2010
My prediction:
Browns win a tight one with a final score of 35-30
Hillis: Rushes 25x for 155yds and 2 TD’s
Watson/Moore: 7 Catches between the two for 2 TD’s
Defense will hold Palmer under 200yds in the air and Benson to 80yds on the ground with a Pick 6 at some point in the game.
Tomorrow’s Powerball: 6,9,14,25,32,40 and a PB of 19.
Kimble_79 - September 30, 2010
If Hillis runs for +150yds I’ll do a little jig.
troy145 - September 30, 2010
Wright can teach you one.
JulioBernazard - September 30, 2010
Wright should have spent more time prepping for Boldin than his dance moves last weekend.
Kimble_79 - September 30, 2010
Wow, we’ll put 35 on the board??!
Thanks for the Powerball numbers.
Western Reserve - September 30, 2010
You have to split it with me if you win though
Kimble_79 - September 30, 2010
If I win?
Western Reserve - September 30, 2010
rec
discoinferno083 - September 30, 2010
I’m irrationally optimistic about an 0-3 team.
notthatnoise - September 30, 2010
I wouldn’t say I’m irrationally optimistic so much as I’m simply not direly pessimistic.
Western Reserve - September 30, 2010
This.
golanbatrac - September 30, 2010
I had a moment of extreme optimism, like, “we could still win 10 games” optimism. It has passed, but I sort of liked it.
notthatnoise - September 30, 2010
Well, the early results of the poll spell “optimism.”
Chris Pokorny - September 30, 2010
The correct spelling is
I-R-R-A-T-I-O-N-A-L O-P-T-I-M-I-S-M
Put me in that irrationally optimistic group. I really think the alternative is unimaginable. I mean, if the Browns lose another tight one, I expect Mangini will literally explode on the sideline, like spontaneous human combustion stuff…
Spidey - September 30, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZrqC5LL_oo
notthatnoise - October 1, 2010
-Take it easy with Hillis, he should last. It´s nice that you see him at the pinnacle immediately, but you have to give this juggernaut, a scheme of persistence, timing and efficacy. The best solution is to figure in a tailback. I saw the highlights versus the Ravens, and the combo Hillis/Vickers looked real good. I swear that will give you 6 yards per punch, we´d be in a position to get first downs at will, exactly what the doctor ordered to get a decent passing game going. Just don´t be so predictable, we need to get away from the sold out pass on the first two downs (especially all fly patterns), run on the third and punt on the fourth. Sock it to them, then throw it, I don´t mind being predictable in that regard at all, then throw at will, once that´s established. Throw that wildcat in if you want to, but they should know their main predicament is a running game they must respect.
-Jerome Harrison is a scat back size wise, not terribly fast, but a hefty runner at that size. I agree that he´s a situational type guy. James Davis, with either Vickers or Hillis, or both, has the fundamental skills, to be a great little tailback. Tailback, mind you. Halfback or feature back as you call it, sorry, not so much. Keep your eyes peeled for “tailbacks”, I bet there are some that were cut the past few years, because they failed at the highly unrealistic single back formation. I reiterate what I once stated, namely, that even for Barry Sanders that formation was quite the challenge.
-Brian Robiskie was successful in college as a man amongst boys type, he used good body positioning on most of his catches. Something a tight-end would do in the NFL. Once again my challenge to him is specialize. Be an end-zone threat, or a possession receiver, continue to hone your skills, because you are neither fast or intimidating in the NFL. Jumping? Probably also not exceptional. Maybe you should order a pair of those weird plateau, heelless, basketball jump improvement shoes.
-At this point, if you don´t want to break in Colt McCoy, while we´re not exactly sizzling, I think Seneca Wallace is the more exciting player, even if not accustomed to winning under Holmgren. Delhomme should do exactly what he came here for, apply for his pension in Cleveland.
-I want Massaquoi challenged constantly. Lets see if he´s the real deal for a number one receiver.
-Regarding the defense. We need marquee players, ones that will sell jerseys to fans. Currently I count: NG Shaun Rogers, DT Ahtyba Rubin, S Abe Elam…Eric Wright as a physical FS maybe. If we ever arrive at an 1985 Bears lineup or a 70ties Steelers or Raiders line-up, where you could sell 11 defensive jerseys, we´ve arrived.
Until then: Look good, play good. How you play it should get you who plays it.
mooncamping - September 30, 2010
I can’t tell whether I’m buying into your philosophy more, or if you’re the one who has adapted. Either way, good post. I agree on Massaquoi. While I don’t want this to be a pass-happy team, it’s always nice to know if you have a true No. 1 receiver or not, and the only way to find that out is to give him some more looks.
Defensively, switch T.J. Ward with Abram Elam and then we’re talkin’ ;)
Chris Pokorny - September 30, 2010
Yes Pokorny, a bit iffy, I guess. I´m not an executive, I´m an idea person lacking implementators, I always thought that shtick was discernable.
T.J. Ward has star potential, he´d be rabid though, and a Lynch rewarded scenario at safety, with the concussion preogative medically at the moment, too risky. I prefer steady eddy Abe Elam at strong safety. T.J. Ward goes into the lost and found bin, actually found/not afforded. When we finally convince the apparatus, that football is an eternal contact sport, and that is physiologically impossible to unscrew your head or get the offense and defense to face the same direction by the rules, then we can afford impact players at DB.
mooncamping - October 1, 2010
aaaaand we’re back…
DontCallMeJoey - October 1, 2010
This made me laugh (even though I don’t entirely agree with the sentiments)
bbstirrd - September 30, 2010
DABOLL! You sly S.O.B! Why you calling yourself Mooncamping?
I had no idea you found this website. We should tell Rob!
See ya later alligator!
FakeEricMangini - September 30, 2010
Is he channeling me?
mooncamping - October 1, 2010
Pshaw. Daboll wishes he were one-tenth as creative as mooncamping.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - October 1, 2010
He probably is, it´s just the Mangini doctrine, that he´s not satisfied until they´re no longer mashing teeth but gums.
mooncamping - October 2, 2010
Eric Mangini, major buzzkill? poSSIBLE,
RelapsingDawgCatcher - October 2, 2010
Hello keyboard defect! Make that:
Eric Mangini, major buzzkill? Possible, but I’d need some proof to blame him over Daboll….
RelapsingDawgCatcher - October 2, 2010
I´m not blaming him, I´m just trying to reacquaint myself with his leadership style.
mooncamping - October 3, 2010
I think Mangini keeps putting stuff in the Arsenal box for Daboll and Ryan to sit on. Wonder if he´ll take that cache with him unopened on his way out.
mooncamping - October 3, 2010
Moon, I have to say what you said made a lot of sense ( HOLY SHI-)….Disturbingly phrased as per usual , but on point nonetheless.
johnnyphoenix - October 1, 2010
Yeah, thought I´d skim this one.
mooncamping - October 1, 2010
I hope if Delhomme comes back that he plays well. I’d hate to see another QB debacle.
troy145 - September 30, 2010
Quinn/Anderson was perilous, because their contract situations gave them the chance to conscientiously alter their individual levels of performance. That´s why they are gone, but allowed to succeed on their own, somewhere else.
Good old fashioned quarterback controversies minus an agitative financial scenario? Knock yourself out.
mooncamping - October 1, 2010
I do not believe that either of these gentlemen have yet demonstrated what I would call success elsewhere….
RelapsingDawgCatcher - October 1, 2010
I’ve heard several sports commentators use the term “Brady Quinn-esque” to refer to a QB who is indecisive or one that checks off a lot… always makes me chuckle a little.
Brownsyup - October 1, 2010
You know you’re on the path to fame when people start using your proper name as a negative descriptor!
RelapsingDawgCatcher - October 1, 2010
You’ve been mooncamped.
Western Reserve - October 3, 2010
I’ve heard it now too haha.
SpecialBrownie - October 1, 2010
I was more confused about the “conscientiously alter their individual levels of performance” part. So, Quinn’s structured contract along with his poor play was a reflection of his desire to make less money?
Western Reserve - October 1, 2010
As long as you realize there was a tailored problem regarding retaining either both or none.
mooncamping - October 2, 2010
Like the Browns, the Bengals have a knack for playing ugly 15-10 type games. Unlike the Browns, they have a knack for winning them. That suggests to me that we’re going to have another frustrating just-out-of-reach game, but hopefully things will bounce right in the end this time. Certainly the Bengal offense doesn’t scare me much, but they’re probably saying the same thing about ours.
Chemo - September 30, 2010
I’d be afraid of Peydirt Killis if I was the Bengals…
shep615 - September 30, 2010
I hope they’re not afraid of him. So much the better for us!
RelapsingDawgCatcher - September 30, 2010
Let’s not forget how penalties have hurt the Browns this year. Last year’s success involved much more discipline on that front, and I expect to see a similar dynamic this season.
NM Dawg - September 30, 2010
This is a good point, and something that has been troubling me. I didn’t expect to get penalized so much.
notthatnoise - September 30, 2010
SERIOUSLY.
Man up, Mangini. He got last year’s guys in line. What’s the deal this year?
What’s changed?
this (and losing as a result) bugs me.
discoinferno083 - September 30, 2010
I’ve been wondering about this a lot. Last year Mangini was a discipline-nazi (so it was said) and it paid off with very few penalties. Now we have more laid back Mangini and we have an 85% increase in penalties.
9James - September 30, 2010
He’s still been punishing players for penalties. Not sure why it’s still happening.
StuckInPa - September 30, 2010
have you gotten a warning from the mods yet? they are strict about you using the N-word around here.
bross09 - September 30, 2010
What does that tell you?
Brownie's Year - October 1, 2010
We are?
Buckeye Brad - October 1, 2010
I got a warning last week about a similar reference.
I was mostly kidding though. I don’t really care that much. the warning wasn’t from you anyways.
bross09 - October 1, 2010
Well I didn’t really see it as a joke and other people didn’t either (see BY’s comment above), so there is no reason to make a comment like that. If you have a problem with a comment then either email one of us or flag the comment.
I thought this goes without saying, but I just want to point out that the context in which a word or phrase is used determines if it’s offensive or not. So just because you might have been warned about something in one situation doesn’t mean another person saying something which seems similar also will be warned or the comment deleted. A little bit of common sense is necessary.
Buckeye Brad - October 1, 2010
You see, there’s your problem right there….
RelapsingDawgCatcher - October 1, 2010
That is my fault for making the joke the way I did. I used drier sarcasm which relies a lot on the tone which gets lost across the interwebs.
bross09 - October 1, 2010
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ…
Dawg Nuts - October 1, 2010
I don’t think making any type of jokes about which comments need to be deleted are appropriate, because they can be interpreted by some people the wrong way.
Buckeye Brad - October 1, 2010
I see what you mean and I won’t again then. i didn’t think about it like that.
bross09 - October 1, 2010
I explained to you why your comment was deleted. Why do you feel the need to bring it up again?
Bernie19Kosar - October 1, 2010
it was dry sarcasm. lets not get into an argument of why mine got deleted and his didn’t. I could try to argue, but there is no point.
bross09 - October 1, 2010
Trust me. As the record holder for having DBN’s most deleted comments, let it go.
Brownie's Year - October 1, 2010
I’m pretty sure I might be passing you soon.
I don’t mine deleted for cursing or bad mouthing though, just being annoying.
SpecialBrownie - October 1, 2010
if you didn’t read it, i was letting it go. I said I don’t want to argue about it and I made a joke here that wasn’t in that good of taste.
bross09 - October 1, 2010
I never said you weren’t.
Brownie's Year - October 1, 2010
Love the choice of picture by the way.
notthatnoise - September 30, 2010
I’d like to point out an interesting fact… The Bengals are 2-1, while the Browns are 0-3. I took a little jaunt over to the Bengals DBN site and their fan confidence is lower than ours (and dropping, whereas ours is on the rise). Interesting.
shep615 - September 30, 2010
On the same note though, some of their early predictions have them blowing out the Browns.
Chris Pokorny - September 30, 2010
our fan confidence has only gone up in the past week. fans have only had confidence because we almost beat a team we should have lost to. if you look at the 2 weeks prior, the fan confidence plummeted.
bross09 - September 30, 2010
I think the featured poll on LGT tackles this subject nicely.
notthatnoise - September 30, 2010
Lesbian Gay Transexual?
troy145 - September 30, 2010
I’m constantly trying to add a B to that acronym whenever I see it.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - September 30, 2010
To make a BLT?
SpecialBrownie - October 1, 2010
Its a new spin on a BLT. LGBT.
Lettuce, Guac, Bacon, Tomato
bross09 - October 1, 2010
Oh. My. God. That sounds delicious.
Adrock2099 - October 1, 2010
Ha. Sadly, I think that acronym is already taken.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - October 1, 2010
I know. I am contacting them to see if they can sponsor the sammich.
or maybe it’ll just be BLGT.
bross09 - October 1, 2010
Good post. I see the Browns being conservative on offense no matter who starts at QB. Lots of handing off the ball and it is likely the Bengals will come out setup to stop the run. If the Browns can adjust to this or come out with a creative gameplan on offense, they might score a quick TD but frankly, I have no confidence in the coaching staff to pull off something unexpected like that. The conservative mode on offense will keep the Browns in the game, but it won’t win against the Bengals in my opinion so I think we will be looking at another loss. This makes me sad.
Brownsyup - September 30, 2010
I hope we have success running the ball and do it early and often.
I’m afraid we are going to give Palmer too much time, and he’s just going to shred our still shaky secondary.
Western Reserve - September 30, 2010
Cinci’s o-line has struggled thus far and I think we’re going to get to see Benard and Rogers back. I think this is the week we get some good pressure on the QB.
StuckInPa - September 30, 2010
Palmer has not been good.
JulioBernazard - September 30, 2010
Yeah, well, doesn’t mean he won’t be good against us. Looks like his best game was in Week 1 against New England, whose defense seems to be struggling.
Western Reserve - September 30, 2010
I agree with us coming out with lots of ground n pound on offense. I then see us opening up some play action, thus getting the TE’s and WR’s some catches. Then you continue to keep the two mixed and not predictable, all while maintaining good defense. This is how we will win this year. This is our offense this year. Daboll, are you LISTENING!
Kimble_79 - September 30, 2010
I agree with the strategy but I don’t have a lot of faith in Daboll’s ability to plan the tactics nor the team’s ability to execute the play-action part against the Bengals. I’ll still enjoy watching though. I’ve actually enjoyed watching all the games this year in spite of the losses. And with the lack of interest in the Indians (they were last in attendance this year) and that bouncy-ball-slamma-jamma-league—can’t remember what it is called but my favorite teams is the Whoever-is-playing-Miamis, I have to be pretty happy to watch the NFL.
Brownsyup - September 30, 2010
Fixed.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - September 30, 2010
Heh… I’ll accept that correction.
Brownsyup - October 1, 2010
do you remember we have an anti-intuitive, moronic OC.
Let’s not get our hopes up that we’ll do something sensible yet.
discoinferno083 - September 30, 2010
I realize this may not be the ideal thread for this info (down rufio) but….
After 3 games the Browns:
1st Dn: 40 rushing plays (4.28 average yards per rush), 35 passing plays (5.8 average yards per passing play)
2nd Dn: 27 rushing plays (4.44 average yards per rush), 34 passing plays (5.65 average yards per passing play)
3rd Dn: 10 rushing plays (3.8 average yards per rush), 27 passing plays (7.48 average yards per passing play)
4th Dn: 0 rushing plays (0 average yards per rush), 1 passing plays (0 average yards per passing play)
The Bengals:
1st Dn: 46 rushing plays (3.85 average yards per rush), 47 passing plays (6.83 average yards per passing play)
2nd Dn: 32 rushing plays (2.59 average yards per rush), 38 passing plays (6 average yards per passing play)
3rd Dn: 8 rushing plays (1 average yards per rush), 42 passing plays (3.4 average yards per passing play)
4th Dn: 3 rushing plays (3.33 average yards per rush), 1 passing plays (10 average yards per passing play)
if this gets a positive response i’ll try to keep it updated thru the year.
sleepy042 - September 30, 2010
I like this info, and as a suggestion how about making it a fanpost every week or something? maybe chris could work it into the game preview somehow?
I look at this and I immediately notice the Browns have been in a lot of 2nd and mediums. I’d like to see us run more often on second down in order to set up a 3rd and short. I really like our YPA on third down.
I’m amazed at how poor some of those cinci numbers are.
notthatnoise - September 30, 2010
This is really cool. Thanks for putting it together.
REC
Bernie19Kosar - September 30, 2010
Head-scratching numbers. The Browns outgain the Bengals in nearly all of these data points. Pretty much supports the optimism many of the Browns fans have leading in to the game…
Spidey - October 1, 2010
Our First Win
I think the win will come this week. Follwed by another win next week. I think it is conceivable that this team will be at worst 2-5 going into the bye week. Thoughts?
champion64 - September 30, 2010
as happy as that notion is, “2-5” sounds like a terrible record. :(
discoinferno083 - September 30, 2010
Is this meant to be ironic?
Brownsyup - October 1, 2010
Wright also bullsh**ted Hillis out of the running for ground player of the week on NFL. com.
apparently your team has to win to be considered.
discoinferno083 - September 30, 2010
That’s stupid.
SpecialBrownie - October 1, 2010
Not really.
Anyway the longer hillis goes unnoticed the better.
HenryDawg - October 1, 2010 via mobile
I was feeling pretty optimistic about this game, but the injuries on the DL make me nervous. We are potentially looking at starting Rubin, Schaefering and Robinson. I seem to recall that Schaefering played decently, but Robinson I don’t know about -as in really, I don’t know anything about him.
JustBob - September 30, 2010
Schaefering really stood out to me in pre-season.
Bernie19Kosar - September 30, 2010
I like Schaefering a lot. With all of the injuries, it might be a good time to make use of some of these big ass linebackers we have. I know Roth can play with his hand in the dirt and so can Gocong.
golanbatrac - September 30, 2010
i think that we’ll intercept cinci at least once and dawson will put us in the lead with a few minutes left.
crazyL80 - September 30, 2010
Then I woke with a start… j/k.
Brownsyup - October 1, 2010
“If Peyton is running the ball well, we’re going to keep giving it to him,” said offensive coordinator Brian Daboll.
Hooray!!
StuckInPa - October 1, 2010
One would hope that would go without out saying… but here we are.
Simmsinns - October 1, 2010
I was actually worried we’d go back to 15 rushes per game and 40 passing attempts.
StuckInPa - October 1, 2010
Would have been an entirely legitimate concern.
Simmsinns - October 1, 2010
With Daboll in charge it still is, if you ask me.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - October 2, 2010
Exactly.
StuckInPa - October 2, 2010
This could mean something entirely different as in…
We’ll keep passing a lot but Hillis will be the main one running the ball.
SpecialBrownie - October 1, 2010
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