In today's edition of Around the Pound, we take a look at an interview with Brian Daboll, the latest news and nuggets from Terry Pluto, and a former Jets' thoughts on Eric Mangini.
As the subtitle states, Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator Brian Daboll is "optimistic and excited" heading into this season. Besides the fact that he survived the chopping block when every fan was calling for his head mid-way through last season, he sees a lot of reasons as to why things can turn around this season.
In a lengthy article by Tony Grossi of the Plain Dealer, Daboll explains some of the reasons the team and fans should have higher hopes:

[Regarding the turnaround last year] "A lot of things go into games, go into the season. Turnovers, that's first. I know we went from three turnovers a game the first half of the season to less than one turnover a game. The last eight, we didn't throw it as much, we ran the [heck] out of it, ballcarriers did a great job of protecting the football and the decisions the quarterbacks had to make were a little bit less."
[Regarding the Wildcat] "I think we have two good players that can do a lot of different things. The Wildcat is just a package of plays that you have in your offense. The one good thing about Seneca -- those two guys have a pretty good thing going -- you can run normal things, too. It'll be definitely an element. Now, one week it may be more and other weeks it might not be as good an idea. We've tinkered with a lot of things out there.
Daboll had a lot more to say about the team's quarterbacks, receivers, new front office, and how he himself has lost 65 pounds since last season. Check out the full article.
In his weekly column, the Plain Dealer's Terry Pluto continued to express his frustration as to why Matt Roth and D'Qwell Jackson have not signed their RFA tenders. Pluto mentions that both players aren't even locks to be starters with the veteran linebackers the team added in the offseason, so it makes even less sense for them to hold out. To contrast them, Jerome Harrison received props from Pluto for recognizing the situation (seeing Montario Hardesty's increased reps) and showing up to OTA's.
Here's some notes that Pluto had on some of our rookies; I particularly liked the comparison on the offensive line...
10. I mentioned Jonathan Haggerty (6-1, 195 pounds) last week as someone who impressed the coaches. That remains true. The undrafted receiver from Southwestern Oklahoma State (Division II) has been getting a lot of work. ... They also are using third-rounder Shawn Lauvao at center and guard, the idea being to turn him into a lineman such as Rex Hadnot, who could play both spots.
Check out the rest of Pluto's article for his thoughts on the depth chart in the secondary.
“We’ve got a real good locker room and it has been that way for a few years. It all started with [former head coach Eric] Mangini and the picks and signings he made,” lineman Damien Woody said. “And it’s continued on, that feeling around here with Rex and what he adds with his bravado. It’s really good what we have here.”
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I hope the Daboll Experiment pans out.
North Coast Flea - June 6, 2010
Run the ball, and the rest will come.
Roger Dorn - June 6, 2010
I think Terry is overreacting a bit to the RFA situation. These guys will be there for minicamp once the June 15 deadline comes and goes. I think they probably realize they don’t have any leverage, but are just using the time until the June 15 deadline to make their point.
Roger Dorn - June 6, 2010
I was hoping we would have picked up a veteran OC in the offseason. Tired of Daboll ‘learning on the job.’
johnnyphoenix - June 6, 2010
Hey give Brian a chance it’s his sophmore season I think the team needs stabilty and he is showing promise.
Suppa Bob - June 7, 2010
He was awesome down the stretch. Rendered our ineffective QB’s meaningless.
Roger Dorn - June 7, 2010
this
Kimble_79 - June 7, 2010
I was tough on him, but I’ll give him credit for finding out what worked and sticking with it. No use in trying to reach some ideal level of balance without the tools to do so.
gahnki - June 7, 2010
in my opinion, the ideal level of balance is whatever works, if thats 90% running the ball, so be it.
notthatnoise - June 7, 2010
But 90% running the ball isn’t going to work over the long term in the NFL. Holmgren said this himself when he came here.
Buckeye Brad - June 7, 2010
Right, but the playcalling needs to be catered to the personnel. We can’’t force a balanced attack if we have say a Brady Quinn at QB. Daboll calls the plays for the players he is given. If they want a more balanced attack, then Holmgren and Heckert need to get him better passing personnel.
Roger Dorn - June 7, 2010
I agree that it will work in the short term, but not in the long term. It’s not something to build your team around. So to say that the ideal level is “whatever works” is wrong in my opinion; just because it works doesn’t mean it’s ideal.
Buckeye Brad - June 7, 2010
On a game by game basis, Daboll has to call plays that suit what is given to him. The long-term is a view of the front office.
Roger Dorn - June 7, 2010
Ya you play the cards your dealt. If the deal keeps sucking change the dealer not the player.
Suppa Bob - June 8, 2010
I understand that. Again, I’m just saying that it’s certainly not “ideal”.
Buckeye Brad - June 8, 2010
yes, but its not like the browns have the most ideal personnel.
bross09 - June 8, 2010
“Ideal” won’t happen this year. “Ideal” would be having a 25 year old Peyton Manning at QB.
rufio - June 8, 2010
I’ll take one of those, please.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - June 8, 2010
um, its ideal until it stops working. then you have to find the new ideal.
notthatnoise - June 8, 2010
It will if every time we pass we get a TD.
rufio - June 8, 2010
Bing’s user interface is just annoying to me.
gahnki - June 6, 2010
I love Microsoft and everything but Google is just as good as Bing if not better.
SpecialBrownie - June 6, 2010
Google is ran by the CIA/Government. I stay away from it.
Brownie's Year - June 6, 2010
Haha . . . that’s funny.
Buckeye Brad - June 6, 2010
It’s true. Look it up. I thought most people knew about it?
Brownie's Year - June 7, 2010
Isn’t Google a publicly traded company?
Adrock2099 - June 7, 2010
Yes. And the CIA owns a lot of Google stock. Google owns YouTube aswell.
They’re keeping tabs on us. You can call me crazy, but it’s true. 1984 is closer than you think.
Brownie's Year - June 8, 2010
If you’ve paid any attention to how willing AT&T and several other American telcom companies were to give complete and unfettered access to their fiber optic trunks to the NSA for God knows what purposes post-9/11, then you probably realize that anything you’re sending over a public network is probably on some spook’s desk right now if they want it to be there, Google or no Google.
But anyway….
RelapsingDawgCatcher - June 8, 2010
So you agree what 9/11’s purpose was?
Brownie's Year - June 8, 2010
The Slurpee?
golanbatrac - June 8, 2010
No wait, that’s 7/11.
golanbatrac - June 8, 2010
It was all about information. Wait, that’s 411. Or Number 6, if you prefer.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - June 8, 2010
now i’m laughing in the computer lab again. soon i’ll have my own internet and will be able to laugh in my apartment.
notthatnoise - June 8, 2010
two words: wireless internet
if your in an apartment building somebody is bound to have it my man. Just by a computer with a built-in wif-fi card.
Kimble_79 - June 8, 2010
oh i get about 10 wireless networks showing up at any one time, the issue is they are all secure.
I’m actually getting internet for free, I live on Hessler Street and am thus part of this program: http://buildtheopenmesh.com/Description_-Intro#HesslerSt._Content
notthatnoise - June 8, 2010
nice
Kimble_79 - June 8, 2010
and speedway perfected it…at least the cheap 44 ounce slurpee.
bross09 - June 8, 2010
I thought the purpose was to kill Americans.
Buckeye Brad - June 8, 2010
Yeah, that came out wrong. I’m not saying it was an "inside job", but I believe it was known about and allowed to happen in order to put more regulations on the American citizens. The elite saw an opportunity and took advantage of a crisis. Now every American is a potential "terrorist" and must be monitored, especially war veterans who know how to use a weapon. We’re one step closer to having cameras in our homes, just like what England recently did. It’s getting ridiculous.
Brownie's Year - June 8, 2010
Also, the world is ending in 2012 so who cares?
Roger Dorn - June 8, 2010
Now that’s just insane. Nothing’s gunna happen.
Brownie's Year - June 8, 2010
It’s a conspiracy!
TheRealSlimShady - June 8, 2010
It’s a trap!!!!
North Coast Flea - June 9, 2010
bross09 - June 9, 2010
Wow. Just . . . . wow. That’s insane. You watch too much Glenn Beck.
Buckeye Brad - June 8, 2010
I am no Glenn Beck defender, but it’s not his crowd that comes up with these things.
Roger Dorn - June 8, 2010
That is Alex Jones’ crowd or Clyde Lewis’
bross09 - June 8, 2010
He’s not that extreme, but he’s all about fearmongering and scaring people.
Buckeye Brad - June 8, 2010
I just meant those dreaming up 9/11 conspiracies probably don’t agree with Glen Beck on anything.
Roger Dorn - June 8, 2010
exactly. that is the Alex Jones crowd. granted there is some overlap. Jones has some overlap in major political views with beck but he focuses on government conspiracy.
bross09 - June 8, 2010
There’s a lot of overlap.
golanbatrac - June 8, 2010
a decent amount, but the average viewer of Beck does not inherently listen to Alex Jones too. definitely not mutually exclusive, but not a huge overlap, though it is a statistically significant one.
bross09 - June 8, 2010
The man isn’t that crazy.
SpecialBrownie - June 8, 2010
Uhhh . . . yes.
Buckeye Brad - June 8, 2010
Bias.
SpecialBrownie - June 8, 2010
There’s nothing biased about calling a spade a spade.
I’m all for giving voice to the voiceless, but not when they’re ignorant, racist half-wits, religious zealots, shit-dumb conspiracy theorists and full blown wackaloons. These people should not have a voice.
The arguments against Glenn Beck are not about liberal vs. conservative. The arguments against Glenn Beck are about the difference between responsible journalism and rabble rousing; between demanding sobriety from viewers and encouraging stupid, violent, unstable people to wallow in their hatred.
I know you’re probably too young to remember much about the years preceding Oklahoma City, but we’ve been down this road before. Ruby Ridge and Waco; the Turner Diaries and the militia movement; all the wack jobs stockpiling ammunition and Dinty Moore. And like then, I’m afraid that it’s going to take another home-grown atrocity to put the lid back on this nonsense. A lot of innocent people will die before these idiots are re-marginalized.
I’m pretty sure that you fancy yourself a conservative, SB. And I know that you love to pick sides in imaginary arguments (Apple is evil; Windoze rulez!). But seriously, you’re too smart to be defending Glenn Beck. What he’s doing is indefensible by any sane, rational standard.
/politics
golanbatrac - June 8, 2010
I see myself more an Independent personally, I pull pieces from both sides. and it was a bad idea to defend him because the dude is off his rocker with most things (I had to write a paper on one episode for politics and I just couldn’t do it) BUT some arguments he gives are credible. That’s why I said he’s not that crazy, but the dude is still a loon with a flipping chalkboard as his torture device.
SpecialBrownie - June 8, 2010
exactly. I occasionally watch glenn beck though mostly watching it annoys me (just like i will listen to rush when he is on the radio b/c I feel its fair to hear him out before criticizing). occasionally he gives a credible argument that I actually agree with but for every one of those arguments, there are 7 or 8 where he is just batshit crazy.
bross09 - June 8, 2010
I’m not biased at all. In fact, I’m much more conservative than liberal. But even I can see that Glenn Beck is crazy.
As golan said, calling a spade a spade doesn’t make someone biased.
(I should say, though, that when I responded to your comment I thought you were referring to BY’s rant about 9/11 and saying that HE wasn’t that crazy, not Glenn Beck. I should have used the up button.)
Buckeye Brad - June 8, 2010
superrec
North Coast Flea - June 9, 2010
i love this rant.
notthatnoise - June 9, 2010
gahnki - June 8, 2010
This is a lot of awesome.
Roger Dorn - June 8, 2010
Fantastic.
Buckeye Brad - June 8, 2010
Excellent.
golanbatrac - June 8, 2010
Porpoises were not behind 9/11.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - June 8, 2010
Unless they were working for the CIA. Hm. Wait a minute here….
RelapsingDawgCatcher - June 8, 2010
Some people say that Bin Laden is a CIA agent. And if you look at his role in the Afghanistan-Russia war, it looks like he is. And it’s a known fact that Timothy McVeigh worked for the CIA and was used as a scapegoat.
You know the CIA has more pull than the US government, right? There are only two organizations that our gov can’t regulate. The Federal Reserve and the CIA.
Brownie's Year - June 8, 2010
the CIA has no real power, i believe you were looking for the NSA.
notthatnoise - June 8, 2010
Do you know who was head of the CIA when JFK was killed for wanting to get rid of the Federal Reserve and print his own silver notes?? Their bigger than you think. The CIA is no joke.
Brownie's Year - June 8, 2010
they’re
Brownie's Year - June 8, 2010
Nice knowing you, BY.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - June 8, 2010
yes that’s what JFK was killed for alright.
notthatnoise - June 8, 2010
You do know the FBI is national and CIA is International right? The CIA doesn’t dwell with domestic affairs. It’s you want CIA propaganda, talk to the former leader of South Vietnam… oh wait he “shot himself.”
SpecialBrownie - June 8, 2010
exactly…but neither one killed JFK.
bross09 - June 8, 2010
please don’t say that the CIA was behind the JFK assassination…
bross09 - June 8, 2010
The CIA and the FR are tightly knitted.
Do you not know that when a president speaks out against the Rothschilds/Central Bank, they are killed? Andrew Jackson was lucky though. He survived two assassination attempts. He ran for a second term with the slogan "Jackson and No Bank".
During the Civil War, Lincoln started printing new money.
The Bank/Rothschild didn’t like this at all. Lincoln later says publicly in front of congress
Lincoln was killed shortly after.
2 weeks before President Garfield was killed, he publicly said
John Kennedy was the last president to challenge the central bank (Federal Reserve). He wanted to start printing his own money for the people, and the bank didn’t like that, at all.
He warned us and asked for our help in the greatest speech of all time.
Brownie's Year - June 9, 2010
plenty of presidents speak out against banks and the financial institution, its an easy target to help rile up the middle and lower classes. of the presidents you mentioned, only jackson is referring to the national bank. the rest are referring to “the financial institution,” meaning the network of corrupt mortgage brokers, investors, and banks which went almost unregulated until the great depression.
notthatnoise - June 9, 2010
Yeah, presidents speak on so many issues that it’s impossible to establish any connection between those words and any assasinations. There have been plenty of presidents that spoke words similar to those quoted above and weren’t killed.
To think that all these assisinations, performed in different circumstances at different times by different methods, are all linked by some secret government “conspiracy” is simple ridiculous. But, as I’ve learned, people will believe whatever they want to believe, whether or not there are any real facts to support them.
Buckeye Brad - June 9, 2010
wow…losing even more credibility by bringing the rothschild conspiracy into this. the conspiracies against the rothschild family are not only the least grounded in fact, but also often come with a heaping dose of anti-semitism. the same argument about the rothschilds controlling everything was a key argument by hitler in Nazi Germany as propaganda against the jews.
Historians will also tell you that while the Rothschilds have considerable money, all evidence points to them sitting on the sidelines. the only time there is any evidence of them getting involved is when they financially backed britain during the napoleonic war era.
are you saying that Lee Harvey Oswald didn’t do it though or are you saying that the CIA put him up to it?
because
a) he definitely did it
b) with the evidence at hand, it is just as likely that my dad hired lee Harvey Oswald…he was around at that time…why didn’t he do it?
bross09 - June 9, 2010
OMG! bross’s Dad killed Kennedy!!!
RelapsingDawgCatcher - June 9, 2010
You bastard!
Villeslgr - June 9, 2010
Damn, you’re the baby of the family huh? Like a 20 year gap to the next kid?
SpecialBrownie - June 9, 2010
no. I am actually the oldest. my dad was only 11-12 at the time, plus he was slightly older when he got married (like about 30 which is above the national average)
bross09 - June 10, 2010
That’s gotta suck, having a kid in middle school.
golanbatrac - June 10, 2010
thats what i thought at first as well
notthatnoise - June 10, 2010
yeah…bad wording. He had me then got married at 30 too
bross09 - June 10, 2010
I could argue these half truths. But we’ll leave it at that, my friend.
And yes, Oswald totally did it. I think he was put up to it though.
Brownie's Year - June 9, 2010
the CIA also started the War on Drugs…the war on terror..they start everything…/sarc
bross09 - June 8, 2010
Mellon, Dupont, Anslinger, and Hurst started the war on drugs in the 1930’s because hemp was to make rope and paper out of than their products and they ran trusts. Read up on it.
North Coast Flea - June 9, 2010
I know…I completely agree. I am well read on the history on drugs in this country…I was being sarcastic saying that the CIA started everything.
bross09 - June 9, 2010
It’s cool I know
North Coast Flea - June 10, 2010
The CIAs marine assets are limited to ill tempered mutant sea bass and sharks with frickin’ laser beams attached to their heads.
golanbatrac - June 8, 2010
Cool!! You mean I actually have frickin’ sharks with frickin’ laserbeams attached to their frickin’ heads?
Brownie's Year - June 8, 2010
huge rec
Roger Dorn - June 8, 2010
It’s true, all the CIA’s dolphin research seems to date from quite some time back. That’s probably just because they’ve moved on to something more subtle now though.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - June 8, 2010
So that Chuck Bartowski could finally get with the hot blonde?
rufio - June 8, 2010
Chuck is such a great show.
gahnki - June 8, 2010
I know what you’re saying. Google was just the topic.
Brownie's Year - June 8, 2010
Cool. Just seems like an argument about who hired the finger in the dike, when we all know who’s already at the controls to the floodgates.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - June 8, 2010
insert raunchy joke here.
Dawg Nuts - June 8, 2010
I knew someone would want to. Thanks DN!
RelapsingDawgCatcher - June 8, 2010
That is crazy.
Buckeye Brad - June 8, 2010
add one more to the Wolf Pack!
Mr Orange - June 6, 2010
Burn Notice isn’t all that bad. Although it seems to me that the picture quality of that show makes it look like it was shot in the 90’s, it’s still pretty good.
AG7 - June 6, 2010
The show never seemed all that amazing to me.
bross09 - June 8, 2010
My New Tatt!!
LOL I laughed the entire time when getting it today.
Browns ’till I die, baby!
Brownie's Year - June 6, 2010
That’s nowhere near as awesome as the one Mooncamping has of Lawerence Vickers.
BrownDawg1409 - June 6, 2010
Or as graphic
danvail - June 7, 2010
Yeah, I heard the facial features are amazing.
Brownie's Year - June 7, 2010
The one of Steinbach’s ass is worse.
North Coast Flea - June 7, 2010
rec!
TheRealSlimShady - June 7, 2010
Bing is horrible on its own. Couple that with IE and time slows down.
I like how they tell you how much time they took: ‘______s to complete the search’. I always go, “no you didn’t”.
skipkirk - June 6, 2010
I am a hord core googly fan. Chrome and I Google for me thank you berry much.
Suppa Bob - June 7, 2010
yes they did. the reason it takes longer to load is your browser. bing really did search that fast. google does the same thing.
notthatnoise - June 7, 2010
America's got talent
Ok, Don’t shoot me down on this guys but since they added Howie Mandel the show is awesome.. I normally dislike reality tv… but Howie makes it…
Fringe rocks and.. True blood starts next weekend.. Awesome show..
Locnar - June 7, 2010
I watched the first few episodes of the first season of America’s Got Talent, but there were too many people/groups using singing or dancing as their talent. I understand that it’s a talent, but usually after several months of watching American Idol, I don’t feel like jumping right into a bunch of those performances again.
I haven’t checked out the show since Howie Mandel appeared. I usually find him pretty funny; does he let the bad contestants hear it?
Chris Pokorny - June 7, 2010
In Italy, virtually every show is singing and/or dancing. Italians don’t seem to know how to do anything else. And they play the same 5 songs that have been played beyond to death for the past 40 years but somehow these italians can’t get enough of them.
Other than American Idol or Last Comic Standing, I don’t want to see any kind of talent show. Italy has ruined me.
dawgtribe - June 8, 2010
this explains their knack for picking up women….they have perfected the most obvious thing that draws them…sing to them and dance with them.
Kimble_79 - June 8, 2010
I despise Howie Mandel.
golanbatrac - June 7, 2010
fistbump
gahnki - June 7, 2010
Bobby’s World was awesome.
Brownie's Year - June 7, 2010
rec
North Coast Flea - June 9, 2010
I stopped watching when that group of gay dancing cowboys made it to the 2nd round.
Brownie's Year - June 7, 2010
Guard proportioned (square with balanced proportions, heavy in the gutt and butt):


Center proportioned (short legs, long strong torso):
mooncamping - June 7, 2010
Who can argue with this??
Brownie's Year - June 7, 2010
No pictures of Joe Thomas whats up with dat? Reindeers?
Suppa Bob - June 8, 2010
Good luck in your studies of 19th century science.
rufio - June 8, 2010
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