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Cleveland Browns 2010 NFL Draft Day 3 - Open Thread

Today is the final day of the NFL Draft, featuring Rounds 4-7. The draft should kick off at 10:00 AM Saturday morning. For reference, here are the picks the Cleveland Browns have remaining:

  • 5th Round: No. 160 Overall
  • 6th Round: No. 177 Overall
  • 6th Round: No.186 Overall

Have fun discussing the final day of the draft! I might not be here until noon, which may be in time for the sixth round.

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No fourth round picks. Gunna be a slow morning.

Hey B.Y., Any thoughts on the WR’s that are still out there. Briscoe should be gone by the time we pick & Mike Williams looks like trouble. What about Carlton Mitchell or Mardy Gilyard?

We should stay away from any WR named Mike Williams.

Gilyard is ok. Don’t know much about Mitchell. There is a bunch of good WRs left out there. I do like Titus Young (WAC homer). Not sure if he’ll even be drafted though.

Titus

Titus Young is still a BSU Bronco this year…next year, though, would be awesome to see him joi the Browns.

Here is a list of needs and player I hope we consider today:
Eric Norwood LB
Mardy Gilyard, Blair White, Mike Williams WRs
Myron Rolle, Kurt Coleman, Kam Chancellor, Barry Church S
Everson Griffin, Corey Wooten, George Selvie DEs

Like your list for the most part- really would like Rolle but not sure Mike Williams fits our SAT mold. He was suspended in 08 and quit the team in 09

Saw Barry Church quite a bit over the past few years. He is always around the ball. Would love him in the 6th

I just woke up, turned on the tv to see when the draft started, and was pleasantly surprised.

It’s right now, baby.

Anyone hear Mike Mayock’s voice?

HAHA He sounds like Bubble from Trailer Park Boys.

Yeah, Bubbles. He sounds like him.

I hope that the Browns don’t trade up into the 4th. Someone will slip into the 5th that we like; please don’t mortgage the future for this.

i would like to see us start trading this years picks for picks next year. except maybe the 5th, still good value left there.

That’d be great.

aint no party like a 7 am Draft party

Is Thaddeus Gibson still on the board?

Did NFL buy the arena league? What was that comercial about.

ESPN owns part of the Arena League

I’m watching NFLN.

first time all draft I have the option of doing this; although their professionalism may not be as entertaining as having Herm Edwards on ESPN.

The last couple days were crazy around here. The site was lagging, big time.

Workout warriors are starting to lose their draft value; Bruce Campbell finally goes in the 4th to Oakland.

Bruce Cambell gone. Good thing Raiders didnt spend their #8.

Wow, Raiders doing work this morning.

Holmgren on NFLN in a couple mins!!!!!!

Fill us in, I only get ESPN

Oh, sorry. He basically said that Haden was their guy at 7. Hardesty will be their bruiser. And that they weren’t even thinking about McCoy until that pick. They took him because he was still there.

mentioned the reported package offered to STL for #1 was exaggerated (not most of 2010 and some 2011 picks).

damnit.. really wanted corey wootten!!

Herm has lost his damn mind

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK EDWARDS!!!!

Wow. Patriots get Gronkowski and Hernandez. Interesting.

i really liked pitta too. would have liked to have him

odd the Ravens drafted two TEs

yeah, no kidding. in back to back rounds at that?

got to say I thought DQwell would have been on another team by now

Good call. I was thinking that yesterday.

I think Gibson’s gonna be good

Well, there goes Gibson, and to the Steelers no less. Weak.

don’t worry, he’ll be on the Jets in a few years

both gibson and Worlids, pass rushers I liked, went to the steelers…

Jets could use McKnight and Leon Washington on the field at the same time

First pick from OSU? That’s insane.

their better talent stayed in school

Makes sense. I have them as the champs this year. And I’m not a Buckeye fan.

We (OSU) also went VERY young as a team ever since 2007-2008. In few years from now, we’ll be more aged and seasoned team.

Rd 4 is the TE round, apparently

I should go hit golf balls or something. We’re not picking for a couple hours.

Sigh. We have to wait so long for the Browns to make a pick.

mel kiper is going to defend jimmy clausen to the death. he’s implying if jimmy isn’t starting this year, its because the coaches are dumb, not because jimmy isn’t ready.

Jimmy doesn’t like misunderstandings.

If they don’t first see what they have in promising Matt Moore, they’re stupid. Jimmy can wait. JMO

kiper called our 2nd round pick, tj ward, the biggest reach in the draft so far

sadly, i agree with him

never mind that tim tebow guy

Ummm, nothing was a bigger reach than tebow at 25.

well, it depends how you define “reach.” tebow was gonna be drafted by buffalo in the 2nd round so if denver wanted him they had to find a way to trade up. however, i dont think anyone was looking at drafting TJ Ward till at least the 3rd round, probably the 4th

You can’t know that.

obviously, NONE of us know anything. that’s why these are draft “projections”

a “reach” is all about value. The Bills drafting Tebow in the second would still of been a reach because Tebow is not even a second round talent. Ward, was a bit of a reach but nothing close to Tebow.

The Broncos had Tebow in for 6 hours on Monday and watched him on the field and at the chalkboard. I think McDaniels might have a better idea than you.

I have seen some people that said ward was a mid to late 2nd round talent…is it that much of a reach then to pick a guy 15 picks early if he is your guy and you can’t trade?

Alualu

But this whole talk about “reaches” and “steals” is sort of silly. First, we won’t know until they get on the field and play. Second, the way we’re defining “reach” is “someone who went way ahead of where the media and bloggers in their mom’s basements thought he should.” The NFL guys thought differently, and they should know better than us.

Precisely.

which is to say, beyond the top 20 or so, discussing reaches and steals is an exercise in futility.

exactly…and every analyst and scout has a different opinion…though i heard none say that alualu should have been that high (but i heard from some and read a couple sites that had ward as a solid 2nd rounder)

What’s wrong with my Mom’s basement?

even if its true, we got one of the biggest steals in McCoy.

This makes me feel better about the pick.

If McShay said it…

eagles take kafka?!?!

guess they’re not 100% on Kolb. I wouldn’t be

They need a backup for when vick leaves.

its a developmental qb

but why are they developing a qb when kolb is so young still?

having too many QBs is a good problem

oh yeah, forgot how good that worked out with Anderson and Quinn

The problem was that they both suck. It was not that there were two QBs. Vick/Schaub, Brady/Cassell – those were not bad problems. Quality backups can step in when there is an injury, and can be traded to teams who need starters.

3rd day picks aren’t expected to start and become the franchise guy.

reach…i know its arbitrary to call reach in later rounds, but I just don’t see mike kafka as being anything special…ever.

And shot Thaddeus Gibson falls to us at 160? I don’t think it’s very likely, but I can hope.

Also, if he does fall to us, will we pick him?

he already got drafted. by Pittsburgh

Ah, just noticed. Big sigh. Well…. if he does well, I’m going to have to hate him.

You should hate every Steeler. Good or bad.

What are you talking about? The worse a Steelers’ player is the more I like him and hope to see him on the field against us.

A little late but, Raiders took Jocoby Ford, now that’s more like the Oakland

29 picks to go. Would like to see Carlton Mitchell still there.

That is who I am hoping for, big-fast kid

i never heard of him before, but just looked him up and was projected as a 3rd rounder. sounds like a good option

we going after a WR or a DE? I am thinking those the two most likely options

Mike Neal, DE Purdue…Riley Cooper WR Florida….Blair White WR Mich St are in play I think. Maybe a pass rusher, Ricky Sapp OLB Clemson?

Neal was gone in the 2nd round.

Ricky Sapp is still out there. Wouldn’t mind that pick.

sapp just went to philly

Scratch that. Eagles just got him.

Mangini compared Ward to Lawyer Milloy in his press conference today.

I could live with Lawyer Milloy.

Out of all the positions I would trust Mangini on, secondary is number 1.

What do you think of Rolle?

Great kid, but a little too slow for my liking. Thinking his pedigree has elevated his status beyond what he deserves football-wise.

never hurts to have someone that smart on a team. Might be good in the nickel

maybe…if they replace all the games with an academic challenge…if that is the case, I am trading a first rounder for fitzpatrick.

has some big hitting highlights on youtube

I’m happy with the pick.

Didn’t Heckert compare his intelligence to Brian Dawkins yesterday as well? A player with comparable characteristics to both Milloy and Dawkins? Yes please.

He is like Polamalu coming out of USC. great against the run but raw in coverage.

So we have a WARD who likes to destroy opposing defenseless players.

Hm, uncanny resemblance. But he’s the Browns version so it’s cool.

but at least those players are part of the play, not on the opposite side of the field.

Id like to see Stafon Johnson in a Browns uniform

Dude. We’re good on RBs

I know. Its a selfish desire.

i think he will be an undrafted free agent

Mel Kiper is so annoying and stupid.

Kiper was late coming back from the last break, think he was beating off to Clausen highlights on youtube

Jimmy, meet Jimmy.

So the true reason for the black eye is revelaed!

Maybe McShay got mad

Im tellin ya, Browns better than Lafevour.

NFLN reporting Jets have teaded Leon Washington to the Seahawks.

makes sense. McKnight is a younger version of Leon

I would hate to play for the Seahawks.

Shudders.

DAMMIT! Pitt got Gibson!

They love tainting OSU player’s glorius futures…

After doing more research on Hardesty, Im more comfortable with picking him

i like the pick, we need another running back beside harrison

We already had four. Just saying.

jennings or davis could be sent to the practice squad or released by opening day

Idfc about Jennings.

Harrison, Hillis, Davis, And the new dude is just fine.

Quantity is not necessarily equal to quality.

That’s not what I said or meant.

We also already had three quarterbacks.

Once again, not what I freaking meant

and how many of those guys had the potential to be a great feature back in the NFL?

Hardesty might get more carries than you think. If Harrison was the real deal, he would have played more. Mangini may not like him.

Eric mangini:

"I spent a lot of time with him on my visit to Texas," Mangini said. "He drove me back to the hotel. I enjoyed that time from a personal and football perspective. I learned a little bit more about raising cattle than I wanted to."

talking about McCoy of course

its good to have something to fall back on if football doesnt work out

I learned a little bit more about raising cattle than I wanted to.

Seriously, how can anyone not like Mangini?

Haha yeah that was pretty funny.

McCoy did say he like Cleveland because it’s blue collar, just like him.

Ask kwoog

I’ve repeatedly said I like him as a coach. I like the discipline he adds, I love the accountability he enforces and the organizational structure he displays in every detail, from OTAs through the 16th game.

I’ve had two complaints: his handling of QBs and his poor 09 draft. Since he’s neither a QB guru nor a personnel man, and since we’ve added one of each, I think he can succeed.

Fair points. I want to see how the QBs are going forward, I am starting to believe that the failure of handling the QBs was a failure of the QBs themselves.

The last point is certainly possible, but putting people in the best (or even good) position to succeed has a lot to do with their eventual output.

15 picks away, i’m guessing a wide receiver…Riley Cooper, Florida…Blair White, Mich St….Carlton Mitchell, South Florida

i think it will be a DE. we could use some youth there.

i agree also there, 6th rounder…Mike Neal, Purdue

NFLN reporting Oakland and Washington discussing Jason Campbell.

What pick did we get for the Corey Williams trade?

I think it was a 5

So… who does everyone want with our next pick?

Didn’t Ohio State have an, apparently, undervalued Tight End in this draft? That wouldn’t be a bad pick at this point.

Otherwise, project ends and nose tackles, or take a flier on Blount.

If Gibson was their TE, he’s gone

You’re an idiot right?

I dont give a fuck about the Buckeyes

All I know is some nutsack from OSU went this morning.

Your obsession with nutsacks is amusing.

Ballard.

I will so take him.

Yeah, that’d be nice.

Yeah, that’s the guy. At one point, someone here had me convinced that he would be a good value pick in the fifth.

Ballard is going to be a UFA. Nobody’s going to throw a draft pick at him.

USC has on e too. Anthony McCoy. good player.

allowing for my bias, of course

any playmaker…but i think they will go with a receiver

Yeah I wanna see a WR w/ this pick.

I want TE

I’d be happy w/ either

But we already have three tight ends!

I will virtually smack you so hard across your face

i sense a new DBN meme

this article makes me like Joe Haden a lot, not just as a football player:
http://news-herald.com/articles/2010/04/24/sports/nh2410929.txt

Panthers fan’s status on my fb:

“Why Panthers? Why? You could have drafted Golden Tate or Arrelious Benn, but Jimmy Clausen? Why?”

Alan Faneca officially cut.

Wow, there’s the issue with taking available good talent. Sooner or later, the better talent has to be cut.

Lacks the speed that Holmgren said he wants to go get but Briscoe has the best skill set of the receivers left

mel kiper just mentioned the pick i am thinking…Carlton Mitchell, South Florida, 6-3, 215

What about that Freddie Barnes guy from BGSU? 6th rounder?

I like his hands, but he has very mediocre speed (mid 4.6) and got a lot of separation b/c of the offense that BG ran (which was still the urban meyer spread in a form I believe). I just don’t know how he can create separation in the NFL and his ability to beat the press.

I think Naaman Roosevelt is a MAC receiver with more upside. he has more quickness, vertical agility, and speed. He has more of a chance to create separation than Barnes in the NFL, IMO.

cant believe they cut faneca. he must have some injury issues that we’re not aware of? last thing i knew, he was still a very good run blocker?

Yeah. Think it was more how much he was owed

They have too much talent/ Faneca is collateral.

Money. Tannenbaum is a horrible GM.

They’re this year’s Redskins.

i dont see him being a free agent for vey long

he’ll have to take quite the pay cut

Which is why he was cut. No one wan’t that contract

sounds like the type of guy that goes to the patriots for his last 2 or 3 years?

I imagine he wont have much choice, now

Pats drafted the guy from Dude, Wheres my Car at punter. Hail Zolatan

Anyone besides me surprised that Dwyer is still on the board?

No, I knew he wasn’t any good.

Ah, c’mon. He’s alright.

I’d say he’s better than Hardesty and without the bad knees.

no way

This.

way

no way!

Wabbit season!

It’s like shooting turkeys.

Why turkeys? Because their gobblers look like nutsacks?

They cant fly. They just sit there, asshole.

Just like your ‘witty’ retorts.

Go fuck yourself Colontrack. And suck a dick while you’re at it, bitch.

damn… shit just got real

Now it’s funny again.

I’m fucking sick of that dude.

You should be more worried of why nutsacks don’t make you sick.

oh no! *shaking.

Oh well at least you shake it. Heaven forbid the shake fairy comes for you.

OK Browns are almost up. Let’s talk about that before I ban myself. :)

afterward though!

The first action is imposible and the second act is impossible if he’s attempting to do the first act also.

not if you can bend over far enough

You’d still have to be a marsupial.

Or a shark.

or Cartman’s mom

They disproved that. He has a father.

Duck season! FIRE

No. This time, wait till you get home.

i was hoping we could continue the “No way / way” argument for a while, but this is funny enough that i’m not disappointed.

I’m kinda stunned. Dude’s a good bruising runner; they must know something we don t

mel kiper just mentioned the pick i am thinking the Browns select…Carlton Mitchell, WR, South Florida, 6-3, 215

You’ve already said this…

Dear ESPN…..playing a U2 song during a promo is the least effective way possible to get me to watch something

Skelton to the Cards.

That was my guy.

Are you going to pull a TRSS now?

Good lord, no.

i like that you were terrified by the mere suggestion.

Skelton off the board to AZ.

Sorry, DA…

And Leinhart

Leinhart doesnt care. he gets to keep partying while drawing a fat paycheck

you dont understand the concept of positional depth?

I wonder who’s going to take LeFevour. Maybe Buffalo?

Buffalo has had a terrible draft.

Nobody beats Denver though. Straight terrible.

Buffalo’s only good pick is Spiller IMO. But you never know. Some people are ripping our picks but I like them.

Spiller wasn’t good for them though IMO. They could’ve done much better.

True. I guess I’m a little bias, though. I still think he’ll be good.

I like Spiller a lot but I wonder how he’ll do on snowy or rainy days—which he’ll see a lot of in Buffalo.

he’ll destroy in domes, though

He reminds me of Chris Johnson. I think he will be special.

i think spiller is gonna turn out to be pretty good. they’ve been trying to trade lynch for the past few weeks too.

Buffalo had some major needs and they were kind of set at RB with Marshawn Lynch and Fred Jackson

Seattle has had a good one.

c’mon Anthony McCoy, TE USC

Schefter reporting that Redskins have traded Campbell to Oakland for a fourth round draft pick.

In 2012.

i hope that was a joke

Poor guy.

I feel so bad for him. =[

his career never really had a chance.

No way.

What a fucking steal for the Raiders.

yep, just made the raiders a lot better

if this is true, i would have loved this instead of seneca wallace.

And now the Browns are on deck.

im guessing we go defense?

I can’t wait for Madden 11 to come out now. I’m happy they’re making it for PS2.

Random, I know.

especially now that drew brees is gonna be injured, lmao

I like that article on Haden posted by noise above. I didn’t know he came into college as a QB and had never played corner. Even with that he NEVER allowed a TD pass in 40 starts!?! He also could have played WR but didn’t because he would have been behind Harvin. So looks like one of those Patriots-like versatile players broad game knowledge and outstanding athletic and learning ability.

Yeah I really like that pick.

also means moving to S wouldnt be a big deal

Yeah. You can definitely say he is a quick study.

Plus, he’s loyal. He turned down the opportunity to be a starting QB at many big time schools (including Ohio State) in order to play for Florida.

Are you ready??

No, DBN…ARE….YOU..REEEEEEEEEEEADY?

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiits DRAFT TIME

FOR WHAT’S TO COME!

Love Creed.

buuuuuuuh!

They were my first concert dude.

They are lame. Second behind Nickleback.
You suck SB.

 mine was Hootie and the Blowfish FWIW

The anticipation is killing me.

I’m thinking DL or LB.

where did the bar go!

We drafted the bar.

that’d be cool

It’d be good for seeing in game scoring

eagles take riley cooper

holy crap a safety

Another safety? Why?

Larry Asante, S, Nebraska

Asanta the Assassin! Love it, this guy is physical.

I like the nickname.

why why why are you kidding me?

He was a heckuva player at Nebraska.

what? Asanta is sick

larry asante, safety

WHY A SAFETY!? UGH.

Dont get it. Dont get it at all

SS PLATOONING!!!

But we already have safeties!

Even you have to see this was a bad pick

Why? Because we have other needs? Do you think we have to fill every need we have during this draft? Or that it’s even possible? What’s wrong with building a deep secondary?

I just think 3 out of 6(?) picks going to the secondary is a little much. I would’ve liked a TE here. Or something Offensive.

why a TE? we have 3 guys there already. if you didn’t like the Asante pick because we already have so many people in the secondary, you shouldn’t say you want a TE.

Dude, why the fuck does everyone keep mis quoting me on that. It’s annoying.

i’m not talking about that. we have Watson, Moore, Gaines, Estandia, and even Robert Royal. if you think our secondary is crowded, tight end is even more so.

As bad as our secondary was last year, we probably should have taken nothing but DBs.

Agreed. Loving this draft.

I’m not convinced that we even NEED a tight end. We signed Ben Watson and we have Evan Moore and Greg Estandia coming back. not to mention Robert Royal.

Only half of those players are good. With only one being proven.

we have just as many good DBs as TEs, the difference is on most plays you use 1/4 as many TEs as DBs.

in the 6th round, you are not usually drafting to fill a starting role, but for depth. we really only had 2 guys who wouldn’t give me nightmares for months if they played safety. they were elam and Adams. I don’t want adams as more than a backup though. sorenson is pure ST. assante is likely a backup SS who is a monster too on ST and can play on D fairly well for a backup

Apparently he’s a good tackler. But I don’t get this pick.

i’m not in love with the pick, but its not awful. we have Elam and Ward. Why not have a good backup? (sorry, Mike Adams doesn’t count)

Elam, Ward and Asante are all SS we really needed a FS

Ward played FS

Indeed, his profile makes him sound like a SS though.

Haden can probably play FS

Again, why would we draft the best shut down cover guy in the draft and then move him to safety?

Shut down safety duh.

Mangini comparing him to Milloy makes me think that they see him as a Strong Safety.

Ward and Elam will probably play interchangeable roles. If I had to guess I would think that Ward is actually better deep, which is a waste of his best talent: hitting people in the mouth.

ward is a FS or more of a hybrid FS/SS. so is elam. he is not a guy with terrible range at SS, and is pretty balanced.

Elam isn’t a FS at all. He is more of a run stopper.

elam can cover a good amount of ground in zone coverage for a SS and is above average in man. He has a high motor and hits hard…he is similar to assante who is a FS but can play either FS or SS in the pros. you don’t have to have that in the box safety and that pure coverage safety. if you have 2 that can do both fairly well, it gives you versatility.

Elam is better coming forward. Unless he takes big steps forward (which is certainly possible), he is below average in any kind of coverage.

*moving forward, as in, not having to turn and run downfield or stay with people in and out of cuts while they move laterally. As in keeping things in front of him then attacking.

I agree with this. Elam I feel is very good keeping things in front and reading and reacting. I don’t think all of our problems at safety are solved, but I am not too worried about both elam and ward in coverage…espcially since our corners will be much better which means maybe less pressure for the safeties to need to cover over the top to cover up mistakes by guys like McDonald.

My thoughts exactly. They shouldn’t have to cover over the top nearly as often with Brown/Haden/Wright in coverage.

yep. I never really want to see sorenson on the field except for ST. assante can also contribute right away on ST

I think Sorenson is gone.

I dunno if he is gone or not, but if he is, it is purely on ST. if he is gone, that means the browns had only 2 safeties on their roster and you usually want to have 4. I think thats is mainly why they got asante…depth.

Man I guess Holgren and company think our secondary needs A LOT of help. Can’t really blame him. Never saw so many totally wide open receivers as this year. All I can say is if you are in the Browns defensive secondary you’d better start packing.

Scouting report

Sounds fine, but why? We got one in the 2nd round. Wow.

Take best player available, not because we have supposed depth (which we actually have none at safety)

Mike Adams might be a good guy, but I want him on the sideline if possible.

We are moving in this direction.

i guess we wanted a SS and a FS

abe elam is NOT very good

What did you say, Walter?

160. Larry Asante, S, Nebraska
A Round 3-4 safety prospect, Larry Asante is a much better value here than T.J. Ward was atop Round 2. (Pick Grade: A)

Larry Asante

Muscular physique. Nice athletic ability-can open up stride in open space. Plays physical with aggressive temperament. Good run defender-hits well with force. Takes good angles in pursuit. Good closing burst. Plays the ball well in front of him. Consistent effort and good work ethic. three year starter

also

Range is just average. Not a fluid mover, lacks hip flexibility. Can be overagressive and miss some tackles in

From the NFL’s website

Asante was a productive, three-year starter for the Cornhuskers. He has a good combination of strength and athleticism for the safety position. He doesn’t have ideal height but makes up for it with toughness and aggressive play. He is a solid reactor but tends to be more productive as a run defender than vs. the pass. He doesn’t have natural leaping ability when going after the ball in traffic and appears to have average hands to make the sure interception. He is a willing run-support player who is usually a solid open-field tackler. Asante has limitations that likely will relegate him to a backup role and core special teams contributor.

which is fine for a 6th rounder really (or 5th…I forget where we got him)

FWIW

Pro Football Weekly had Asante ranked ahead of Major Wright and Morgan Burnett

National Football Post: A smooth, coordinated athlete who takes good angles in both the run and pass game, and is a really instinctive guy in the deep half.

Just saying, I bet Suh made this kid look a lot more better than he is. But I could just be blowing stuff out my rear end.

Another SS when the big need is FS i think one of the CBs may be moving to FS

Steelers got one from OSU, one from Clemson. Damn them.

NFLN guys like Asante a lot.

I’d like to see a WR or TE in our next two picks.

why a TE?

Because Estandia and Royal aren’t good. Duh.

This.

ok, so you’re saying you want to draft a guy to be the third string TE but you didn’t understand drafting a backup safety?

No correlation.

why not? a 3rd stringer at one position is better than a 2nd stringer at another?

No, I get it now. I was just confused at first.

Plus, I’d rather get a WR than TE.

i will admit being confused at first as well. i would really like to see us take a DE.

but we have 3 other TEs…

Moore is injury prone with limited experience.

Gaines is almost purely there to block.

Watson is the only proven one.

and a 5th round rookie would be behind all of them.

Not neccisarily TE’s are almost always better in late rounds.

You don’t get them in 1st or 2nd.

And Moore was a practice squad player.

Tony Romo was a practice squad player

kurt warner was bagging my groceries

and what? late round TEs are usually better than early round ones?

Usually. Like the Pettigrew pick last year was bad.

I just mean that late round TE’s hold just as much value but at a much lower price. You know?

WR would be good, but we’re running a bit low on them at this point

what did millen say?

Rams will take some Fendi, On a bun

At least we can say all pre-season that the secondary is crowded. WTF?

why is lefevour and pike still on the bord?

They might be UDFAs

Because nobody has drafter them yet.

2 more until we’re up again!

 i dunno why are they still on the board?

Maybe we’ll draft another QB now that all the safeties are taken.

nah maybe we could use some more running backs…cuz who needs receivers

I was torn between safety and running back….

If we draft another defensive back, I am going to lose my mind.

anybody else think we need a pass rushing DE/LB? I know we got Chris Gocong, but he isn’t proven.

Browns on deck.

we need a push rusher or WR

Blount could work…who would we cut?

Hold on to your brain stems, people, here we go. Are there any safeties left?

YYESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

There’s your WR, crimestoppers. Carlton Mitchell.

Carlton Mitchell, WR

Good value in the 5th round.

3rd round value in the 6th, 4th round value in the 5th with assante…who cares if we reached half a round for ward.

Finally a receiver. actually heard of his name before too

Props to badrat. He called him out this morning.

I think he is a great pick

Carlton Mitchell

“Outstanding length(thats what she said). Adjust well to the ball. flashes big play ability, Set record for career USF receiving yards

even though mel is an idiot him compairing him to marshel makes me feel good

6’4", 212 lbs, 4.45 40

(according to Sporting News)

Big target!

Carlton Mitchell, WR, South Florida
This is a good value, as Carlton Mitchell was a Round 3-5 prospect. He’s raw but very physically gifted. The Browns need playmakers and they potentially got one. (Pick Grade: A)

Only 1 more pick…what do we take?

this is guy is 6’3, 215 has has big play speed and has been compared to donald driver in his prime. good pick by the browns

Heckert and Holmgren know how to wait…which is a tough thing to do.

guy runs a 4.4 cant complain with that

Why is he is so low in the draft?

knocks are not good at getting seperation; hands are average-tends to let the ball into his body too much

kinda sorta fixable enough

PFW

“Set receiving records as a freshman but bulked up and lost a step.Could easily develop into a No. 3 receiver.”

anybody else notice all of the Defensive Lineman the Ravens have drafted? Ngata and Terrence Cody on the same line? this frightens me

Our line is still clearly better than anything they can put together.

They’re going to need them all if they plan to get by Joe Thomas. Joe Thomas is out somewhere fishing and not giving a rip how many defensive linemen the Ravens take.

A gifted size/speed wideout who simply hasn’t put it all together yet. Possesses a lot of upside and is a really good value in Round 6.

Sit your ass on the bench Robo??

According to nationalfootballscout,

Carlton Mitchell: No. 2, WR, 6-4, 212

Carlton MitchellAP


Mitchell is a big, long-armed wideout with a supreme athletic skill set for his size. He showcases an impressive initial burst off the ball with the straight-line speed to consistently run by corners and stretch the field vertically. He’s a powerful route runner who’s tough to knock off balance and bring down after the catch. But he isn’t the most natural receiver and is still learning how to break down and cleanly get out of his breaks. He has a tendency to round off his routes when changing directions and struggles to gather himself in jump-ball situations. Mitchell isn’t a natural plucker and will struggle to adjust and come up with the grab. Still, he possesses an immense upside and looks like he could develop into a legit No. 1 wideout at the next level.

A natural plucker?

I like the sound of all of this.

I’m guessing we take Jamar Chaney next

Chaney would be a good pick for us

Sorry, who’s that?

Jamar Chaney is a 6’1" 250 lbs LB from Miss State.

rep is good athlete, bad instincts

Walter had us taking him I think. In like the 3rd.

This could turn out to be the best pick for the Browns. Mitchell was considered by some a 2-3 round talent

Look at his rating based on NFL.com 7.1 that is higher than T.J. Ward, Hardesty and Asante

that would probably be grading on pure physical skills then. I like Mitchell though but I don’t think he was that high on most people’s boards. even most experts didn’t have him really until the third.

Hell of a pick, guys.

Damn straight, Mr. Panther.

Steve Smith wishes he was that good.

Oh Shit. Awesome.

Ummm… since when did Mitchell become steve smith?

When Brady Quinn became a Bronco.

that SportScience display from Skelton was impressive

well we got a WR finally

Value Bob, Value

Yeah he looks excellent for where we got him I am not very patient at times.

At that spot, he’s worth a shot.

Bears take LeFevour.

Meh.

After all, they already have quarterbacks.

They could use him. Fer sure

Ouch.

National Football Post: An overrated quarterback prospect who struggles when asked to make NFL throws. Looks like nothing more than a backup QB.

I would love to give Mel Kiper and Todd McShay both a spear and a shield and watch them fight to the death. I got $5 on Kiper.

Mel’s right on this one

What are they arguing about?

His hair doubles as a battering ram.

Or a eye blinding substance.

At least McShay could adapt during the fight

there goes my boy. this highlight real showed alot of pretty throws

They could throw Mike Mayock in there and he could take them both out with his bare hands.

Mayock owns McShay and Kiper

he eats their lunch AND drinks their milkshake

does he tell them odoyle rules afterwards?

Does he put fake candles up to their ears and taddle on him the minute he does something?

he beats them up on the beach in front of Elisabeth Shue

LeFevour was a good value pick for the bears

Didn’t the Broncos draft a center in the third round?

Yes maybe they can move one to gaurd

True. I’m seeing reports that Olsen could play guard, down the road sometime.

Here we go. Last pick.

has kurt coleman from OSU been drafted yet….i hope so, because if not the browns want to draft every safety left on the draft board.

Is he the TE?

someones not a buckeye fan

Coleman is a Saftey from Ohio State

SARC, from an earleir conver.

got selected by the eagles in the 7th

mitchel=4.4
robiski=4.59
masiquai=4.66
 
number one reciever just dreafted?

agh..the typos, the typos!

haha sorry getting careless

mitchell can def work his way up to a #1. remember, marcus colston was a 7th round pick out of Hofstra by the NO Saints.

when did MoMass post a 4.66 the slowest time i had on him last year was 4.54 and that was the slowest time i recorded with my own stop watch during the combine and tape of his pro day

Boldin – 4.7

I guess he would be our #4 if we had him

Speed does not a receiver make.

SEA gets their USC player

GREAT pick. so underrated.

Browns on the clock.

Clifton Geathers of South Carolina, DE

He was arrested for resisting arrest, disorderly conduct and public drunkenness

Who hasn’t?

Joe Thomas. Cops are too scared.

plus he’s incapable of getting drunk; alcohol doesn’t effect steel.

Joe Thomas is not made out of a perishable object my friend.

He doesn’t oxidize. He’s titanium.

hope i don’t get pancaked for this. maybe he’ll realize it was a mistake.

I’ve heard of this guy.

Geathers rep….inconsistent but gigantic

high upside guy in the 6th round with 2-3rd round physical talent but only about 7th round production…projected in the 5th…another shrewd pick

There’s the D lineman. And that’s it for the Browns, isn’t it, unless they start trading future picks?

anyone know anything about him?

6-6 3/4 297 lbs.

another big guy will he beat people up and take their lunch money?

nice a 3-4 DE to replace an aging Robaire Smith

Highlight vide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8uCPzHnWk4

wow hes kinda quicker then i expected, i wish we wouldve taken an LB but this is a decent pick

Their dark jerseys don’t even have their last names on them.

They’re all words of wisdom and crap. That’s awesome.

Nothing about USC is awesome.

I thought it was cool.

Clemson and USC are rivals, so that’s why I said it haha.

rec

Nevermind, I thought you were talking about the real USC.

You can look at it both ways haha.

wow i never heard of that, that is actually really cool

It was for a promotion with the military.

I think they wore them for two weeks or so.

its nice to see your 6th round pick wreck tebow a couple of times. it makes you feel good

There are some character concerns that need to be checked out.

6-8 and 281 pounds, the brother of CIN Bengals DE Robert Geathers…he attended Hargrove Military Academy in high school.

I have him at 6-6 3/4 and 297 lbs. he is a 3-4 end with long arms to get off blocks but is inconsistent

That’s why the name sounded familiar. Had heard of Robert

that was the last line I read what does that mean?

Clifton is a perfect fit as a 3-4 end. The Browns needed depth here and the value is very good. (Pick Grade: A)

What are we going to talk about for the next few months now, guys? Haha.

critique the draft

Why we should have drafted Colt in the second round.

I smell a Devil’s Advotcate!

Haha, no I was just being sarcastic.

I can’t remember who said it, I think it was Chris, but if you switched some picks around, this draft would have been the best a Browns fan could have hoped for going into this.

I’ve got some things up my sleeves. Hopefully.

geathers article - arrested

The Steelers just drafted another rapist.

maybe the steelers have been peaking at the bengals penetentiary draft board?

The Steelers just grabbed Jonathan Dwyer. This could be a steal

Steelers are such hypocrites.

The Steelers should change their name to Stabbers and sign OJ Simpson and Rae Carruth while they are at it.

Ray didn’t stab anyone.

He hired someone to shoot two people.

They should trade for Ray Lewis though.

Right on, I had the wrong murder charge/felony. lol

I messpelled Rae. I know who he is.

And misspelled ‘misspelled’.

Love both the Asante and Carlton picks. I was wondering why Asante was still on the board, but another guy that can play the run well and is not afraid to lay the wood. There is definitely a theme in this draft.

and yes his nickname was the Assassin at Nebraska.

Carlton? You mean Clifton?

Carlton Mitchell. Larry Asante is the assassin.

He was even able to match up on the WR as a CB at times. I love this pick – I honestly believe he will be better than Ward.

Yea, I also watch the Big 12 mainly when it comes to college, and I was always impressed with him.

Really like the bottom half of the draft. Assante was a heckuva a player on a top notch college defentse. The WR looks like a specimen, and the DE looks good and is a perfect positional play. My only disappointment is the 2nd round. We had to give up 3 players for 1 on Hardesty and I really do not think the safety will contribute much.

Kiper compared Mitchell to Brandon Marshall in terms of what kind of WR he profiles as. Another tall WR for the Browns.

Robo and Mass better turn it up this year.

Should I change my user name to ColtMcCoyisBeast? lol

No.

JimmyClausenIsAPussy…Literally.

Hahahaha. Don’t really like using that word, but that made me crack up.

Well, he is a cat afterall.

Its bad luck.

Haha it is. I was jk though.

Why do you think Eminem sucks now?

False.

Coming from a metal head, Em is freaking sick.

Good sick or bad sick.

It was a weak joke.

Eminem has bad rhymes.

Do it baby.! :) That would be awesome.

Well that was fun I gotto go its almost 10pm here in babylon

Good luck in Iraq.

Once again, hell of a pick. Good job in the 6th round.

Denver is having one of the worst drafts known to man, my friend.

BUT TEBOW’S A WINNER

One of the worst: no
Very very bad: yes

I don’t think it’s quite that bad.

They brought in a lot of nice young offensive talent, and their cornerbacks were good value for the 5th and 7th rounds.

ESPN complaining that Rolle is being downgraded because of his “commitment” is a joke. They need to look in the mirror for propping up his status higher than his actual talent warranted.

ESPN sucks. Hand’s down.

NFLN dude.

I live in New York where crappy Time Warner has monopolized the city and refuses to negotiate for NFLN

Bummer. I love watching their marathons of America’s Game and Top 10 best (enter football subject here). And their version of SC is great. Especially when Rich Eisen is the host.

I don’t have NFLN either.

Like what we did today.

I think Geathers is a great fit for us. Massive size and he is lean. Anyone who can carry 290 and look skinny is a beast.

I have no problem taking more DB’s. Our defensive backfield was an absolute joke last year. We had a WR start for us at times. Injuries happen and now we have three DBs to throw against the wall.

Ward is deemed a reach, but I think if he can stay healthy, he can end up being a good player. Watching him on tape, he has a physical nature about him and doesn’t seem to mind sticking his nose into the fight. Maybe it is just wishful thinking, but the guy reminds me of Brian Dawkins. Maybe it was the green uni’s.

Mitchell seems like he is a very good value, and adding some talent on the outside is always a good thing.

ward was really the only reach and it was maybe only by a round at most. we got guys a round or 2 later than projected too at great values.

Myron Rolle to the Titans. interesting. hes like the anti-Pacman Jones

I guess CAR isn’t sold on Matt Moore if they drafted Clausen and Pike.

i don’t think anyone is sold on matt moore. they would have kept Delhomme if the price hadn’t been so high.

I believe they are still paying Delhomme.

AND PIKE?!

They’re just seeing if something will stick.

Still, I don't like bringing in 2 QBs at the same time. Too much distraction.

The last time a 2nd and 6th rounder both were taken…Oh shit Green Bay!

The worst part is that I’m a Louisville fan so I liked Brian Brohm.

Oh crap. They got Pike too? I went to get new tires.
That’s a very interesting choice.

Anyone catch OSU’s spring game?

I have it Tivo’d so I can go back and convince myself that Soloman Thomas is the greatest pass rusher ever to walk the earth.

Anything else happen? I saw Pryor was 8-12 at about 9YPA, with Guiton also looking good.

Any young guys stand out? Any of the bigger DEs/DTs look good outside of Simon, Larimore, and Heyward?

DBs outside of Torrence/Chekwa?

Speaking of late-round QBs, I’m a fan of Sean Canfield, the Saints’ pick. I’ll keep an eye on him but for the next several years he’ll only get on the field if Brees is injured, and only then if he can win the #2 QB job.

Also, Jevan Snead has to be regretting his decision to come out after his junior year. Undrafted! I wonder why he came out.

LeGarrette Blount went undrafted.

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