If you missed part one of today's game thread where fans reacted to the selection of T.J. Ward, go here. Otherwise, continue the discussion on the remainder of round two here. Depending on how many comments we get in this one, I'll see if I have to open another thread for round three.
As of this post, the Jimmy Clausen fall continues. Who knows -- maybe Clausen or McCoy will be available in the third round.
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ahhh..so roomy in here
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
hello world!
notthatnoise - April 23, 2010
So, do we move back in the second????
Brownie's Year - April 23, 2010
I think so.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
I hope not.
Bernie19Kosar - April 23, 2010
As my friend just pointed out, with Clausen and McCoy still on the board, Denver could have waited and just picked Tebow now.
Chemo - April 23, 2010
That’s not necessarily right at all.
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
Don’t think so. Word was Buffalo was going to take him.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Is TRSS still alive?
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
haha
TheRealSlimShady - April 23, 2010
The Broncos should pick Clausen just to mess with everyone.
Chemo - April 23, 2010
Hah
danvail - April 23, 2010
I’m a little shocked at no QB.
danvail - April 23, 2010
I’m not.
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
Odds one lasts to our first third?
danvail - April 23, 2010
3-1 odds McCoy is still there.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Even odds.
I have been saying for a while that Colt was falling to late 2nd, early 3rd. I am very surprised about Clausen though — I think BQ scared a lot of people off him (logically or not).
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
I think that may be possible.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Still, this is uncanny.
danvail - April 23, 2010
part of my wants to believe its karma
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
20-1
Bernie19Kosar - April 23, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XZDzOGFXts
Tom Bloom - April 23, 2010
T.J Ward?
Whatever. Leaves the door wide open for my man Lefevour!
navycavsfan - April 23, 2010
Taking him in the 5th.
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
I like the way you think. 5th would be great.
navycavsfan - April 23, 2010
woot!
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
recapping the last thread:
1. troy145 hates northerners.
2. rocland washed sergio kindle.
Dawg Nuts - April 23, 2010
look away
look away
im a browns fan down in dixie!
troy145 - April 23, 2010
You guys lost, get over it.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
rec for hilarity!
Dawg Nuts - April 23, 2010
i didnt say anything about the war… and honestly i didn’t say anything bad about northerners either
troy145 - April 23, 2010
it was a joke
notthatnoise - April 23, 2010
Dixie is associated with the war. We won, you lost. Sherman burned Atlanta to the ground!!!
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
who knew he hated the falcons?
Dawg Nuts - April 23, 2010
Braves . . . for 1995. He tried to get down to Miami for 1997, but had too much fun burning Atlanta.
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
dixie might be assosciated with the war with you guys, but it was written in the north and the south is still dixie, just check any Alabama license plate.
But either way, I didn’t come here to start a North-South flame war. I was just friendly teasing you guys about northern weather, and now apparently Im Nathaniel Bedford Forest incarnate.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
That guy sounds made up.
danvail - April 23, 2010
he’s who forest gump is named after.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
See? Made up.
danvail - April 23, 2010
no, he’s real. He was a military genius for the South, but a cruddy dude who started the KKK.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
UPDATE:
troy145 hates northerners and is a racist.
Dawg Nuts - April 23, 2010
title:
cosigned,
troy145
troy145 - April 23, 2010
you’re slowly winning us back…
Dawg Nuts - April 23, 2010
thats all i’ve ever wanted to do in my life.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
I do like the sig
danvail - April 23, 2010
“groomed” is the technical term
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
Is troy pissed that the Browns didn’t take a Levi Brown
TheRealSlimShady - April 23, 2010
yes, im raging all over the boards.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
I would not mind trading back into the second for McCoy, which is what I’ve been mentioning for weeks now.
So far, I’m really liking this draft.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
I think we will trade back.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
second that.. i wouldn’t mind if we traded a 3rd rounder or two
Tom Bloom - April 23, 2010
Arizona Cardinals key arrival: Derek Anderson…
notthatnoise - April 23, 2010
I suppose key doesn’t necessarily mean positive.
danvail - April 23, 2010
Cleveland Browns Key Departures: Brady Quinn, Derek Anderson
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
Ha!
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
where will golden tate go?
sww2109 - April 23, 2010
home
notthatnoise - April 23, 2010
Rocland’s bathtub?
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
Such a crappy draft for QBs. And it shows.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
You can smell it too. :S
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
Chance for a QB to go right here.
danvail - April 23, 2010
Would make sense.
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
SHCOKED if they pass on Clausen.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
FUCK
danvail - April 23, 2010
Triple fuck.
danvail - April 23, 2010
our long national nightmare is over
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
lol
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
WHOAAAAA
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Jimmy’s picked!
notthatnoise - April 23, 2010
You’ve been waiting 2 days to say that. lol
Brownie's Year - April 23, 2010
a day longer than i thought i would have to.
notthatnoise - April 23, 2010
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
Brownie's Year - April 23, 2010
Don’t be surprised if the Browns pick Kafka in a later round… not tonight. Unless Holmgren is blowing smoke. I kinda wish we’d have gotten Mays over Ward. If you want to see a hard hitter, check out this…
Taylor Mays
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
yeah, he’s debating between kafka and me. results would be damn near the same.
Dawg Nuts - April 23, 2010
Hahaha.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
hows your upside?
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
36 yrs. old, 6’0 tall, 210lbs.; pretty strong, marginal speed. can throw a football 15 feet from my knees. questionable at reading defenses, but i’m a WINNER! (at least i was in midget football)
Dawg Nuts - April 23, 2010
Go ahead and have your fun… you will see…
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
I tend to agree more with the sentiment that Kafka doesn’t suck. Brown, Lefevour and Pike are better though.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
BTW… LeFevour is the other QB besides McCoy that passes the Lewin test. But there is that small school thing that is supposed to be a negative factor. Who knows?
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
I dunno…Miami of Ohio’s a small school, Alcorn St’s a small school, they both produced NFL caliber QBs/
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
TRSS is joining the Carolina SBN blog as I type this.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Just about to.
TheRealSlimShady - April 23, 2010
Awesome value at 47 for them. Clausen will fit into that system very well.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
TJ Ward apparently ran a 40 at 4.46-4.49 at his pro day, along with a 4.12 short shuttle, and a 7.00 3-cone drill. His vertical at the combine was 34", and he put up 225 on the bench press 19 times.
He can move and he can lay the wood. If he stays healthy he could be solid for us.
rufio - April 23, 2010
Sean Jones 2?
danvail - April 23, 2010
Comparable size and measurables to Troy Polamalu. I’d say that his celing is somewhere in modest comparison range of the Steelers safety. However he might never reach his absolute potential.
jaws. - April 23, 2010
(homer)
TheRealSlimShady - April 23, 2010
Uhh, did you just call jaws a homer?
StuckInPa - April 23, 2010
Yea.
TheRealSlimShady - April 23, 2010
Talking about TJ ward.
jaws. - April 23, 2010
Was Jones that fast? I would think he is more athletic than Jones with more injury concerns.
rufio - April 23, 2010
It is comforting knowing we won’t end having Clausen on this Browns happy.
This draft just keeps getting better and better.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
+1
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Did he hit on your girlfriend?
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Who do you think gave Clausen that black eye?
rufio - April 23, 2010
It all makes sense
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Believe me, he deserved it.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
49ers take Colt?
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Nope, they are sold on Alex Smith’s performance last year.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
But his contract is up soon.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
I think this is right. I don’t think they are ready to look elsewhere and admit their first overall a few years back was a total bust.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
I think taking 2 OL in round 1 was a pretty strong statement in support of Smith. They could use some defense or a WR or maybe another back.
rufio - April 23, 2010
Dwyer is still on the board.
BrownDawg1409 - April 23, 2010
Sounds like Singletary to me.
rufio - April 23, 2010
Well at least he went to a good situation.
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
these guys are really heaping the love on to Carolina.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
Well, they got lucky. It’s great value for 47.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
not just the pick, but the team.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
Absolute steal
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Probably a better situation for Clausen. Less pressure for him, less money for them. Win, win.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
Looks like I hate the Panthers now. Nothing wrong with that I guess. I kind of hope he plays us this year, so Joe Hadn can pick him off.
StuckInPa - April 23, 2010
what sequence of events causes a man to wear a pink tie with a blue shirt and black jacket? did his “A” tie get coffee on it? did a dying child make it for him?
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
Mays to the Niners
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
Taylor Mays to SF!
BrownDawg1409 - April 23, 2010
singletary is probably in love with mays
sww2109 - April 23, 2010
Taylor Mays at 48? Can’t fault it. On my mock board I had them taking TJ Ward lol
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
He seems like Singletary’s kind of guy.
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
If, as alluded to above, Mays really isn’t smart, then he probably isn’t Singletary’s type of guy. Singletary wasn’t a great MLB b/c of his size or speed.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
I think Mays gets a bad rap for that. Hes not stupid so much as he’s overaggressive
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
Probably right.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
kind of like the army of northern virginia in the gettysburg campaign!
troy145 - April 23, 2010
Lee never should have called that audible to Pickett
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
They got their signals mixed up.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
nah, they read our plays earlier in the season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Order_191
troy145 - April 23, 2010
pickett was never good in coverage, he just wowed people with the “big hit”.
Dawg Nuts - April 23, 2010
apparently thats the big knock on Mays as well.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
And unskilled.
This could be a situation where Singletary will take some pride and say “If anyone can coach him up, I can”.
rufio - April 23, 2010
And he’d probably be right. I was sad last year when the Browns got Mangini and the Niners got Singletary.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
Yea I was extremely upset at not getting the coach that pulls his pants down during half time.
StuckInPa - April 23, 2010
hey, dude goes sans pan taloons, Im listening to what hes got to say. Im calling the cops, but Im listening.
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
I dunno about you, but I just don’t find that motivating.
StuckInPa - April 23, 2010
Apparently Vernon Davis did. And the stats back it up.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
I still think we made the better decision. I’m sticking with Mangini until he’s fired.
StuckInPa - April 23, 2010
I’m happy with Mangini now but it appears we will agree to disagree.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
Singletary would have bitch slapped Braylon Edwards halfway to Michigan. And then gotten him to produce like it was 2007 again. If he’s gotta pull his pants down to get his point across, so be it.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
It’s 7:37 PM on April 23, 2010 and Braylon Edwards still sucks.
Did I do that right?
StuckInPa - April 23, 2010
lol, yes.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
Yup, the rap on him is it will take him a few years to read zone comfortably. He jumps too many routes. He has all the physical skills, he’s not really dumb, he’s eventually a starter. I wanted him over Ward as a safety but Ward will start day one and won’t be a liability in coverage.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
If the teams stay where they are (which they won’t) McCoy could slip down to 60 at Seattle.
BrownDawg1409 - April 23, 2010
I’m sticking with my gut. Our Quarterback of the future is Skelton.
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
browns fans can talk themselves into anything
sww2109 - April 23, 2010
You’d rather have Skelton than Clausen?
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
I’ve been secretly hoping he’d be our guy if not Colt. Seems to have huge upside, not sure how long he’d take to develop.
StuckInPa - April 23, 2010
At this point, I’m starting worry about that first rd/early second divide that defines QB’s.
BrownDawg1409 - April 23, 2010
/agree Dawg. We are getting to the point that the expectations for a QB drafted this late are about like having Anderson back.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
I’ve said it two dozen times. And I’ll say it again. We signed Delhomme and we traded for Wallace. We DON’T NEED TO DRAFT A QB THIS YEAR if we aren’t sold on one. At best we’re a .500 squad next year. And next years draft is loaded with talent far above these guys. Meanwhile this years draft is loaded with DL, DB, WR, and OL. Fill slots. Worry about our franchise QB next year.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
By “these guys” I meant QBs/
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Why is this a reply to me?
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
I’ll say it 4 dozen times and 3 more ta boot. I don’t know where you get your info that the QBs are so much better next year. Similar stats, programs and crap shoot! I do think your point is well taken about Delhomme and Wallace but I do you really think either is the QB of the future for the Browns?
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
First off, I NEVER said either was the “QB of the Future” for the Browns. Aside from Bradford, and even he has big question marks, I don’t see a QB this year as our QB of the future.
Second, it’s a known FACT if you actively follow college football that next years QB class is far better than this one. Heck, even an amateur can use google for that. I don’t mean that as a personal insult. It’s just a fact.
Case Keenum, Blane Gabbert, Jerrod Johnson, Terrelle Pryor, Christian Ponder, Ryan Mallett, Jake Locker.
I refined my list. That’s what probably will be available. All of them will be gone by the end of the 2nde round.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Once again, you don’t make picks this year based on what you think might be available next year. So many things can change over the course of one season.
I’m willing to bet that all those QB’s won’t be picked in the top 2 rounds next year.
Buckeye Brad - April 23, 2010
You are seriously nuts with this. Nuts.
Chief Wahoo - April 23, 2010
hmmm. I agree that we dont HAVE to have a QB from the draft this year, although I disagree that .500 is our “best case scenario” so to speak. i think anything less than .500 is disappointing.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
I could be wrong but this year seems like a great time to take a chance on a guy from a smaller school in a later round and see if you can’t coach him up. Low pressure, low financial investment and low risk of the fans revolting and wanting him on the field after Delhomme throws his 1st INT.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
I agree on your later point. Less chance of fans revolting after Delhomme throws his first INT. I didn’t want to see a situation like every year we’ve had for the last half decade. Then we toss in whoever is next on the list, they do no better, and we fire the coach.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Good teams don’t make decisions based on what the fans want. Holmgren won’t do that.
Buckeye Brad - April 23, 2010
I’m with you. Unfortunately that doesn’t stop the fans from chanting for insert back-up QB name here
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
I hate addressing only one area of the team in consecutive picks. You can throw anyone in the secondary and get result if you can rush the QB
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
by teh same token, you can generate buttloads of coverage sacks with a mediocre d-line and great secondary.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
Really? The Browns late round CBs last year couldn’t even get on the injury depleted field.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
The Browns were 8th in the NFL in sacks, who says we can’t rush the QB?
Roger Dorn - April 23, 2010
So where do you think the Browns will go next as far as:
Offense/Defense?
Position?
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
Wouldn’t be surprised with a receiver. Lots of them available right now.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
I’m thinking more defense. Probably a Linebacker or an End.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
the vikings are terrifying
sww2109 - April 23, 2010
Gerhardt blocking for AP? uh oh.
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
Ok, makes some sense now, but how good will his blocking be vs. elite from 7s in this league?
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
thats the question. But you figure at minimum he can soften Defenses up for A, and save him wear and tear. Probably goal line work, too
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
Wow. Vikings TRADE UP to get Toby Gerhart with Peterson on the team?
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
probably use him as FB
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
no, this is brilliant, they will never have to throw the ball.
sww2109 - April 23, 2010
Yep. This is a great pick for the Vikings. Less reliance on Brett.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
haha, couldnt agree more.. let favre get you in the playoffs, then make him hand it off so he doesnt throw the interception to lose the game
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
They will NOT win
gameschampionships that way.Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
DAMN IT. Ran to McD’s and missed it.
Brownie's Year - April 23, 2010
im also of the thought of drafting a qb next year. id rather have ryan mallet or jake locker than any qb in this draft anyway
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
The Browns would have to suck bad enough to get those guys. I’d hope for some improvement this year.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
Christian Ponder might be available and I’d rather have him than a lot of the guys in the QB class this year as well.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
You are talking outside my scope of knowledge now. I’m lucky to know the guys available this year.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
He’s gaining some hype I think, he had great numbers before his injury against some decent competition. At least as good as what Locker saw. Honestly, having watched a ton of FSU and a ton of Arkansas football, I think Ponder is better than the inconsistent, almost Anderson-esque Mallet.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
i think mallet is gonna have a big year this year.. of course its all a crap shoot, but you always see them times when he just looks like a beast
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
yeah thats the thing about him, is he’s got it in him, he’s just so inconsistent and doesn’t he also have some character issues? He’ll make a play a lot of NFL QBs cant then miss a gimme.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
well, i dont think he has any character issues. his thing was he started at michigan and then with the coaching change he transferred to arkansas. which made him sit for a year. there was no way he was gonna play for richrod in the spread offense
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
yeah definitely he wasn’t a good personnel fit, but I’ve heard he’s had some issues at Arkansas. could just be some useless scuttlebutt though.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
i guess it’ll just be a wait and see.. he could shoot up to a surefire #1 pick next year, or drop down in the later rounds.. who knows? for instance, taylor mays was goin in the top 10 if he came out last year
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
sure. I just think it all plays into the depth of the QB class next year, which is why Im not super bummed if we don’t get a QBotF this year.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
agreed. we need starters drafted in rounds two and three if at all possible. not a qb who may or may not ever play for us
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
Christian Ponder sucked this year. Are you serious?
StuckInPa - April 23, 2010
not trying to be a jerk, but thats just completely inaccurate.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
Guess I didn’t look into his stats, but what I did see were his big games. Where all I heard was hype, and he didn’t live up to it.
StuckInPa - April 23, 2010
His stats are really good, and the FSU offense was pretty good last year, mostly because of him seeing as the run game was pretty substandard and the WRs there are mediocre at best. I feel like Ponder kept FSU in most of their big games, and while I really don’t care about FSU at all, I live in Tallahassee so I’m a season ticket holder, so I’ve seen him play a lot.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
He was very inconsistent.
TheRealSlimShady - April 23, 2010
Ponder is a stud. Also, Terrelle Pryor might be on the board. Lets see how OSU looks next year.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
I feel like Ponder is a much smarter player and more comfortable in the pocket, but I’ll admit I dont watch as much of that conflabbed yankee football as I do SEC, Big 12 and ACC.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
well, what i would like to see is us trading a couple of those third round picks, for maybe a first next year. heckert was a master at doing this at philly for years. not sure if we could pull it off or not. even if we traded for some 2nd’s next year, then we could use them to trade up into the early first next year..
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
We would have to trade all our remaining picks to get a first rounder next year.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
well, thats what i meant by trading maybe some thirds and fourths this year for maybe a second and third next year. then, when next years draft comes along, we have ammunition to trade up. of course this all depends on where exactly we’re drafting next year
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
Gerhart looks old as hell
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Gerhard is a poor man’s Peyton Hillis ;)
DrewskiC - April 23, 2010
That is a fantastic way to look at it!
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
Hey How’s it going?
TheRealSlimShady - April 23, 2010
It’s going great here.
How’s being a
Broncosnew Panthers fan?Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
Well, I just figured out who ‘TRSS’ refers to.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
haha.
TheRealSlimShady - April 23, 2010
of course the bengals take dunlap!! hahahaha
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
Dunlap looks like a girl. a girl in woman’s prison, but still.
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
Of course the Bengals take Dunlap
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Bungles. Back to 6-10.
StuckInPa - April 23, 2010
of cOurSe the BengalS take DunlaP
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
we need players with zoom zoom
troy145 - April 23, 2010
cowboys steal one at 55. sean lee is good.
Dawg Nuts - April 23, 2010
Yes. It seems a lot of teams are making the perfect moves. Our draft seems a little disjointed this year. It seems like we have a 3-headed monster (coach, GM and Pres) compromising. I’m pretty sure that most of the pundits would give us a C or B- at this point for taking 2 players a little two high—not that there is anything wrong with that. What do they know?
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
Scroll up to see my reply on next years draft class.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
I think TJ ward was a really nice pick. People slept on him but our scouts were on top of him. Some injury concerns but I think some people might be surprised. He ran well at his pro day and looked awesome in drills at the combine.
jaws. - April 23, 2010
so i think we can all agree that from here on out, we should draft Boris Lee, Cameron Sheffield, Levi Brown, Jorrick Calvin, and Brandon Lang, right?
troy145 - April 23, 2010
i hope we draft boris lee just for his name
sww2109 - April 23, 2010
haha. how bout that linbacker, Pat Angerer. just the name alone deserves to be drafted
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
Troy also has a LB named Bear Woods, and he has long flowing white guy dreads and crazy face paint.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
you are making troy my new favorite college team
sww2109 - April 23, 2010
Our new QB’s name is Max Killmaster and he has a huge mohawk and teardrop tats under his eyes.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
Is this true?!
Chemo - April 23, 2010
Yep. We almost didn’t get him to commit to Troy, but our OC, Rip Hardchest really came through in the clutch.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
My irony detector is poorly calibrated, but it finally started blipping.
Chemo - April 23, 2010
Bear Woods is real though.
sans facepaint:
troy145 - April 23, 2010
awesome. rec.
Dawg Nuts - April 23, 2010
Honestly he’s the only other Troy player in this years draft aside from Brown that I’d want on my team. Lee’d be a great pick up in the 6-7 rounds. Little undersized but he’s a great ballplayer.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
BK19, I think I’m going to need you to do a retroactive devil’s advocate series, where you explain why it was a good thing to pass on Clausen and (probably) McCoy.
danvail - April 23, 2010
3rd round is almost up. It’sParty time!
Brownie's Year - April 23, 2010
Could McCoy fall to #71? Looks like a decent possibility! Seahawks at #60 are a possible threat, and KC at #68.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
God, I hope so.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
I will grudgingly accept a McNugget selection at 71. If we select him I will never call him McNugget again.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Rec’d to get rid of the Mc… thing.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
I’m sorry you think that line is so creative. I personally think it makes you sound like an idiot.
Browns town - April 23, 2010
I really dont beleive KC is in the market for a QB at all. Theyve got Cassel who I think theyre deadset on trying to make something out of, they really like Croyle as their no 2, and Matt Gutierrez has brownie points with Pioli and isn’t a terrible number 3 anyways.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
Yeah, I think KC’s sticking with Cassel for awhile.
Seahawks, though…
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Seahawks worry me, Hasselback has not aged all that well.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
I agree somewhat. I don’t think they’ll take a QB due to Cassel, but figured it was worth mentioning since the talking heads on TV keep bringing it up.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
good evening all…..what’d i miss so far?
sleepy042 - April 23, 2010
dude it was crazy there was a circus and polar bears and President Obama came by omg it was nuts.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
Don’t forget the dancing midgets.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
and rocland was washing dudes.
Dawg Nuts - April 23, 2010
damn ravens.. always gonna have an awesome defense
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
Let’s hope this guy hits the Krispy Kreme hard this summer.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
Let’s each pose as Ravens fans and send him a dozen donuts as a welcoming gift.
Matt Y. - April 23, 2010
I like your sentiment but posing as a Ravens fan is one thing I cannot do.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
We’d better get another killer (ahem… HUGE) offensive lineman…
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
What do you guys think about Golden Tate? We definitely need a WR and he is still on the board. Amazing.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
McCoy and Tate? It’s possible
superbacker56 - April 23, 2010
If we got both of them, I’d be ecstatic.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Bruce Campbell, anyone?
sww2109 - April 23, 2010
Deep draft.
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
I think we take a WR, LB, or Right Tackle….. in that order.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Kindle and Mount Cody to the Ravens? I don’t like this one bit.
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
Crap.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
its ok, cody is only good for 1 down a series because he gets winded so easily
superbacker56 - April 23, 2010
Not to mention, they really improved their offense with Boldin. And an emerging Ray Rice.
Everyone else in the AFC North should be worried as hell.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
Hope Flacco regresses?
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
And Ray Lewis and Ed Reed start to show their age.
rufio - April 23, 2010
You can see why the ravens are always so good. Ozzie Newsome having another fantastic draft. Traded his third rounder to get Boldin, then replenishes his draft by trading out of the first round. Gets two solid picks in the second in my opinion and still has 2 more picks than he started the draft with.
jaws. - April 23, 2010
i gotta be honest. i dont like the idea of drafting a WR. we gotta find out about robiskie and massaquoi
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
nothing wrong with a little depth at WR.
superbacker56 - April 23, 2010
If they’re available in the third round, I might be eying McCoy, Wootton, and Tate.
Chris Pokorny - April 23, 2010
BROWNS TRADE
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Browns are on the clock!
Chris Pokorny - April 23, 2010
Oh…snap!
Browns town - April 23, 2010
Wow! Tate maybe?
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
OMG WE’RE GETTING MCCOY. I KNOW IT.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Browns TRADED UP!
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
Did we just trade??
dgcambridge - April 23, 2010
YES!
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
McCoy!
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
YES! Above Seatle!
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
Gotta be McCoy.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Please, please, please.
Browns town - April 23, 2010
WHOA!
Brownie's Year - April 23, 2010
Predictions?
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
or Tate
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
Tate!! Tate tate tate!!
troy145 - April 23, 2010
Michael Smith says Hardesty
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
Has to be McCoy.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
Just above Seattle.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
Do not want McCoy!!!
troy145 - April 23, 2010
i do
johnnyphoenix - April 23, 2010
why dont ya marry him?!
troy145 - April 23, 2010
Hardesty
Bernie19Kosar - April 23, 2010
Wow, you called it.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
what reach with it be this time
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
McCoy?…… and Gruden will be coaching him in 2 years, haha
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
Adam_Schefter — Cleveland just traded up – has to be Colt McCoy. #nfldraft
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
Colt?
WarWolf - April 23, 2010
Troy Smith for a 5th round pick???
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
Oh good god.
Chemo - April 23, 2010
Colt McCoy is sweet at this spot
WarWolf - April 23, 2010
Jarrette Brown?
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Hardesty!!
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Wow.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
I’m shocked.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
woot - Hardesty !
WarWolf - April 23, 2010
WHAT THE FUCK????
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Whoooooooooooo???
jharbdo - April 23, 2010
Wow… strange.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
LOVE IT
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
All we need now is at least 2 more RB’s and we’ll FINALLY be able to quite relying on our pass game.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
You gotta be kidding me…
emily522 - April 23, 2010
I FUCKING QUIT
danvail - April 23, 2010
yep, hardesty.. i think he’s gonna be a good one
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
i like it…
johnnyphoenix - April 23, 2010
I knew we were looking for a RB. But 2nd round? And a trade up?
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
WE ARE LOADED AT RUNNINGBACK
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
un no we’re not
johnnyphoenix - April 23, 2010
Loaded with potential.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
potential in the NFL means you havent done anything yet.
sleepy042 - April 23, 2010
That’s my point.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
haha! okay?
DrewskiC - April 23, 2010
Loaded?!?!? I hope this was a joke.
Buckeye Brad - April 23, 2010
LOADED I tell you!
Chris Pokorny - April 23, 2010
BIg RB..
johnnyphoenix - April 23, 2010
what did we give up?
notthatnoise - April 23, 2010
probably a 5th or 6th.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
umm, 3 picks
superbacker56 - April 23, 2010
My computer is just spitting out random letters: what’s a “montario”?
dgcambridge - April 23, 2010
kinda like Jacobs from NY
johnnyphoenix - April 23, 2010
naw
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
cannot be tackled !!!!!!!
WarWolf - April 23, 2010
if thats true, hes gonna kick so much ass!!
troy145 - April 23, 2010
???
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
That’s…interesting. What did we trade?
Matt Y. - April 23, 2010
Do not understand it.
Bernie19Kosar - April 23, 2010
We have a top 5 offensive line. And we need 2-3 backs. We are officially loaded at running back. We can sub studs in over and over.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
We do NOT have a top 5 line at all
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
its not top 5, but we definitely have /much/ more pressing needs
troy145 - April 23, 2010
I understand drafting RB’s.
What I don’t understand is trading up for a RB.
Bernie19Kosar - April 23, 2010
dont be mad about this pick!!!!! him and jerome harrison are gonna be a good duo!!
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
And Mel Kiper is blowing his top. All good things.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
haha.. kiper has been a mess
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
dont forget about Peyton.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
I was thinking more of a scat back. Who is going to be gone now. Harrison? Davis? The new guy from Denver?
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
did we get rid of jennings yet?
johnnyphoenix - April 23, 2010
Of the four, surely Davis.
Chris Pokorny - April 23, 2010
Man… we really haven’t even seen Davis.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
It’s possible we keep five backs, though not likely.
danvail - April 23, 2010
Jennings is out for sure.
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
so we have 2 backs splitting time and a good backup…I like it…small fast back and sopme power now
johnnyphoenix - April 23, 2010
Yeah. And Davis will just y’know, hang around?
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
I don’t think RB was a key need for us.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
No, it absolutely was not, at all, whatsoever.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
Disagree. Harrison still hasn’t signed his tender. Davis is a big? This is what the Jets did. They stocked up on RBs and guess what, they led the league in rushing week after week.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Jets had a better O-Line.
Bernie19Kosar - April 23, 2010
Disappointed. Harrison and Hillis, and McCoy on the board………
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
Can’t believe this.
Do we still have our 3rd rounders?
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Good question.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
Yeah. Probably gave one away though. So 2 left?
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
No. We traded 71, + two others.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
So they really didn’t think he’d last?
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
We gave up all 3 of our third rounders???
emily522 - April 23, 2010
No, just the best one.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
And our 1st fourth rounder.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
We have 85 and 93 still.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
no way we dealt four picks for that
notthatnoise - April 23, 2010
We had a fourth rounder?
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
No we didn’t.
I think we gave up our first 3rd and 2 5ths.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Never mind, that was given up in the Sheldon Brown trade, both with the Eagles.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
I’m shocked by that. Not in a bad way. But I’m shocked.
DisplacedBuckeye - April 23, 2010
Hardesty is fucking sic.
Brownie's Year - April 23, 2010
Doesn’t matter how sic he is. No reason to trade up, and no reason to draft a rb this early.
StuckInPa - April 23, 2010
Hate the idea of trading up for Hardesty. I thought McCoy for sure but I would have liked to have seen an offensive lineman, like a Vladimir Ducasse. We already have 4 running backs.
jaws. - April 23, 2010
I thought they said we gave up one of our 3rd rounders to move up. So we still have 2 third rounders left.
jharbdo - April 23, 2010
Can’t believe this. What are we doing?
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Trust the system.
DisplacedBuckeye - April 23, 2010
I’m trying. I just don’t understand this at all.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
I guess I should be pissed, though. I just looked like an utter moron when I stated, “There is no way we trade up for anyone but Colt McCoy, I don’t even need to watch the announcement.”
DisplacedBuckeye - April 23, 2010
I was like 100% sure it was McCoy.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
So does this mean Hillis is definitely a FB and Vickers is done?
DrewskiC - April 23, 2010
No and no.
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
If Vickers is done after being a monster fullback, then we’d be insane.
Chris Pokorny - April 23, 2010
No kidding. Vickers is a huge part of our team.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
After looking at this maybe the Browns were worried about Hillis:
http://www.zimbio.com/Cecil+Sapp/articles/5/Peyton+Hillis+Denver+Broncos+Player+Bio
Injury concerns and he seems like more of a Vickers and we already have a Vickers. So why did they get Hillis in the first place. To make the Quinn trade look better?
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
How soon before Harrison signs his tender.
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
On the phone right now haha
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
I have no opinon on this. too shellshocked
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
OK now trade picks with Seattle. Right? Tate?
dgcambridge - April 23, 2010
These are mangini picks
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Is this starting to sound like a Mangini draft to anyone besides me?
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
Please explain.
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
lol see above
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Mike was just talking about how Holmgren told him he would entrust Mangini to make these picks with Heckert
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
You mean the guy who turned around the Jets?
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
If by ‘Mangini draft’ you mean ‘good draft’ or ‘smart draft’, then yes.
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
looks like we are NOT interested in a QB..lol
johnnyphoenix - April 23, 2010
we shouldve gotten tate. wouldve made more sense anyways.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
can we wait to see robiskie and massaquio actually play before we just keep drafting wide receivers?
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
First of all: You need more than 2 WRs anyways.
Second: We’ve seen a decent amount, sure they could explode, but we’ve seen a decent sample size.
Third: We have a legion of solid RBs as it is.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
Well we already know that Robiskie didn’t play and in a losing season in which there wasn’t a lot of reason not to play him unless he really stinks. And he was touted as “NFL ready”. Bust.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
robiskie played some special teams and was in for maybe a handful of plays and now he’s a bust?
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
the point is, if the kid isn’t even seeing the field in our substandard WR corps, that doesn’t rally bode well for what the coaches are seeing.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
very possible. but we just dont know yet. i think we get the running back because we’re probably gonna release jennings and harrison and davis are the same type of back. so there is a good chance one of them might be gone?
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
Must have thought the Jets or Colts would get Hardesty.
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
Jets have a good RB corp.
The Colts just drafted Donald Brown.
Really don’t think anyone would’ve took Hardesty.
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
some hardesty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4PWCT4srx4
johnnyphoenix - April 23, 2010
I’m skeptical of highlight reels but those are some nifty moves.
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
And now Tate is off the board. Seahawks passed on Colt again.
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
I guess we aren’t getting a QB? Maybe they’re planning on taking LeFevour?
emily522 - April 23, 2010
yeah im thinking waay down the line maybe…
johnnyphoenix - April 23, 2010
Skelton.
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
Brown
troy145 - April 23, 2010
why, why, why??? is butch davis running our draft
mayor bloom - April 23, 2010
there goes Golden Taint
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
Ha ha. Taint.
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
Okay, that was a little better than McNugget. But only a little.
Chemo - April 23, 2010
Maybe we can get Colt (or LeFevour) mid 3rd?
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Let’s hope so.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
you guys are NUTS if you thinik this even remotely compares to Butch or mangini’s drafts
johnnyphoenix - April 23, 2010
It was one guy. Reply.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
They are taking explosive physical players. You can argue that you wanted “that guy” but there is apattern here. Physical, explosive, hard working, lots of upside. And all of the picks fill needs.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Tate is not explosive or physical? RB is a bigger need than WR on this team? My opinion is different. I hope I’m wrong but we do need someone to throw to and we definitely did not have enough of that last year.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
Some disagree that running back was a need. It does give us more depth, but hardly needed a RB. Harrison is awesome, and Hillis is a great compliment, and Davis is there as well.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
It’s my opinion that in Cleveland you can’t have enough RBs. We need to return to the days of 2 1000 rushers.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
No, this isn’t the 70’s any more. The NFL is a passing league now. Running the ball is important, but you score through the passing game.
Buckeye Brad - April 23, 2010
again, harrison was good in the last couple of games… hillis has never even played for us, and davis is a 6th round pick that was on IR last year
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
Why are yall so high on Lafevour? Not saying he isn’t solid, I’m just genuinely curious why so many people on here seem to really like him.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
He’s kind of like the mini Tebow with a better release. That’s why people like him. I think he’s too small but I wouldn’t be upset with a 5th rounder for him.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
this
4 year starter; super tough SOB. Good arm too.
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
Did he play much under center? And I agree he’s undersized. He also underperformed in big games IMO.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
he won two MAC championship games. those werent big?
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
um…. well.. honestly….
troy145 - April 23, 2010
I like Lefevour a little bit. I’d really like to see him hit the NFL weight program hard like Brady Quinn did, though. Could stand to improve his arm strength a bit and just really fill his frame with as much bulk as he can to prevent injury.
jaws. - April 23, 2010
according to NFL.com we gave up #71, #134, and #146 for #59
a third and 2 fifths for a second
Bumblyjack - April 23, 2010
We have our two later thirds and a 6th left I think.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Solid deal to move into the 2nd.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Well now we can’t get LeFevour in the 5th. Do we want him in the 3rd presuming Colt is gone?
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
Skelton.
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
No, but it’s still possible he’s on the board in the 6th.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
just shocked, still not happy about haden, then case that with the safety. The browns must be getting ready for Locker next year.
mayor bloom - April 23, 2010
Yahoo says Hardesty has durability issues. I can’t confirm that’s right, but I am just so confused about this whole thing.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Who doesn’t have “durability” issues? I hate that word. Bradford just sat out the entire last year and was taken first. Hardesty missed time in his first two years, I think and a little bit last year?
DisplacedBuckeye - April 23, 2010
he didnt miss any last year just his first two with a knee injury
Cameron Curlings - April 23, 2010
Want to twist this thinking a little bit. Who says Harrison stays healthy? Mangini always ran 2-3 backs with the Jets. And 2 of them cleaned up. And when one got hurt they’d just swap in a youngster.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Harrison is an unrestricted free agent next year.
Bumblyjack - April 23, 2010
Jets got Ducasse
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
shoulda been us.
jaws. - April 23, 2010
Yea. I’m not a fan of this draft strategy so far
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Shocking . . . .
Buckeye Brad - April 23, 2010
I think it’s clear, we should fire Holmgren and hire Rocland.
Roger Dorn - April 23, 2010
We would have taken Clausen at 7 when he actually went around pick 50, but who gives a shit! Rocland said he is good.
Roger Dorn - April 23, 2010
ESPN is really screwing up this “Primetime” thing. Commercials are cutting into it and even worse, their montages and interviews are as well.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
Anyone seeing this? It’s a joke!
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
I’m with you. Seems like half the pics happen during commercial.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
*picks
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
Really shitty coverage.
No chemistry between the panelists. Bad timing with the commercials. Kiper. They hardly look interested.
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
couldnt agree more. i switched to the nfl network
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
The problem is that the NFL Network coverage is garbage too. Their audio is awful, you can here static, crosstalk, and random music in the background.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
I think Hardesty missed a year due to injuries
mayor bloom - April 23, 2010
he missed the first year with a knee injury
Cameron Curlings - April 23, 2010
I feel like we’re targeting LeFevour instead of McCoy now.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
I kinda like this development.
jaws. - April 23, 2010
(Fail haha.)
emily522 - April 24, 2010
we got a shit load of RB now
The Brown Note - April 23, 2010
after the arrest I am guessing Jennings will be gone
mayor bloom - April 23, 2010
Rule #1. You do not punch people in the face and stay in Cleveland. Rule #2. You do not punch people in the face and stay in Cleveland.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Just a data point… Prisco at CBS has given 6 Cs in the 2nd round and the Browns have 2 of them. No Ds or Fs.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
What’s the breakdown of pics the Browns have left?
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
85, 92 (3rd)
160 (5th)
177 (6th)
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Thanks. So what should they go for?
OT
DE
OLB
Developmental QB?
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
OT, DE and QB.
I think we’re set at OLB for now.
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
WR maybe?
emily522 - April 23, 2010
Could. Maybe someone like Jordan Shipley or Gilyard.
Just don’t think so. Heckert already said no WRs are coming in.
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
Oh, I didn’t know he said that. Nvm then.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
I’d like to see a RT. After that I don’t care. Although the age of the D line is scary.
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
and 186 (6th)
Brownie's Year - April 23, 2010
You’re short at least one pick.
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
Pats got Spikes
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Patriots take Spikes.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
That’s a nice pick.
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
As long as he keeps the eye gouging to a minimum. I have a feeling Roger won’t be nearly as forgiving as the University of Florida.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
it was sickening to me that even the player knew his punishment wasn’t enough. he had to go ask for a worse punishment.
notthatnoise - April 24, 2010
Montario Hardesty
“good muscular build. presses the line. not afraid of contact- lowers his shoulders and fights for extra yardage. flashes a spin move. nice hands as a reciever. willing blocker. "
“Decisive, one-cut inside slasher. solid back who does everything well but nothing great”
BringBackKosar - April 23, 2010
We DEFINITELY take a receiver in the 3rd.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Seahawks have had a great draft. Possibly the best tackle, second-best safety, possibly the best wide receiver
Matt Y. - April 23, 2010
Great draft? Yes. Best WR? Very doubtful.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
we don’t pick again until 21 in the third round
The Licensed Pessimist - April 23, 2010
Unless we trade up. We still have DQwell.
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
Is there any interest in DQ?
Monsters of the Midway - April 23, 2010
Point analysis for trade.
Moving from 71 to 59 310-235 = 75
Pick 134 = 39
Pick 146 = 33
Total = 72
Pretty much followed the points.
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
We took ’em for three points!
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
yep, i just looked up the same thing. you also gotta remember that a LOT of the time the later round players dont even make the team when its all said and done. so why not trade them picks to get a player that is for sure going to be playing
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
Think of it this way, Haden, Wright, and Brown ill rotate as starters and play all downs all year long. Ward will be either starting at Safety game 1 or at least playing regularly and should be starting by mid season. And Hardesty will get serious burn as a first/second down back. We strengthened our DBs and solidified our solid running game.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
yep, couldnt agree more. of course ANYONE could be a bust, but these seem to all be pretty safe picks. which is why im guessing we went with ward instead of mays. mays seems like a major boom or bust type of guy
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
The DVC is actually reasonable after about the first-early second rounds.
rufio - April 23, 2010
Nice pick for the Saints
Matt Y. - April 23, 2010
I knew that it was a possibility…but man…
I didn’t see Colt McCoy dropping to the third.
DisplacedBuckeye - April 23, 2010
what are the positives on this skelton guy?
nickmar19 - April 23, 2010
1. He’s not Delhomme.
2. He’s not Delhomme.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
If you don’t like Delhomme or Wallace as 1-2 year fillin guys while we build positional strength then you should be calling for Holmgren’s firing. Cuz that is what they are doing. Period. They are determined to build positional strength and worry about the “Franchise QB” next year.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
So you can’t draft the franchise QB this year? Why not? 2 years of development is a problem? I think we’ll see a QB (developmental with hopes of making him THE guy this year).
Brownsyup - April 23, 2010
It was a joke.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
rec
TheRealSlimShady - April 23, 2010
3. He’s not Wallace.
4. He’s not Ratliff
TheRealSlimShady - April 23, 2010
Plus: Big. Strong. Cannon arm. Accurate.
Minus: Played at Fordham. Not a lot of touch on his throws.
At best, he’s Joe Flacco. At worst, DA.
golanbatrac - April 23, 2010
His worst could be a lot worse than DA.
TheRealSlimShady - April 23, 2010
No such thing. DA’s worst is the worst I have ever seen.
rufio - April 24, 2010
I meant DA overrall. Not at his worst.
TheRealSlimShady - April 24, 2010
think we move up one more time and get the qb we want
The Brown Note - April 23, 2010
Who’s that?
TheDriveStillHurts - April 23, 2010
hell man, ide say mcCoy…
The Brown Note - April 23, 2010
God, I hope so.
emily522 - April 23, 2010
why? We’re not as desperate for a QB IMO as people seem to think.
troy145 - April 23, 2010
God I hope not…who’s left? No one that couldn’t wait until our next pick anyway.
Combat Medic - April 23, 2010
Everyone has mentioned watching ESPN or NFLNetwork…is anyone listening to Sirius NFL Radio? That’s what I’m doing, and I love it. The guys speculate their own thoughts, and then let the suspense build by letting Goodell actually announce the pick without spoiling it ahead of time.
Chris Pokorny - April 23, 2010
i got sirius in my car but not in the house. or i’d be right there with ya
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
ESPN gotten to the point where they don’t even televise the announcement. It is terrible.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
NFLN too. It’s all talking now.
Brownie's Year - April 23, 2010
Sirius NFL radio is awesome. Although he’s the “Godfather,” I don’t like Gil Brandt. But Tim Ryan, Pat Kirwan, Ross, all those guys are awesome.
Browns town - April 23, 2010
Could we give like a 3rd and a 6th to move up in the 3rd? Or would that require both of our 3rds?
emily522 - April 23, 2010
You’d trade 3rds. And whatever else is needed (6th or 5th)
skipkirk - April 23, 2010
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
i thought we’d hear something about maybe a shaun rogers trade at some point today?
RyanBr - April 23, 2010
Nope, looks like they’re gonna keep the big nasty around for a last year.
gentryholdem - April 23, 2010
Well, we can take a breather, not picking again until 85.
Simmsinns - April 23, 2010
NEW OPEN THREAD FOR THIRD ROUND HERE
Chris Pokorny - April 23, 2010
NEW OPEN THREAD FOR THIRD ROUND HERE
Chris Pokorny - April 23, 2010
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