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Cleveland Browns 2010 NFL Draft Day 1 - Open Thread (Part 2)

If you missed out on the first open thread, go here to see it. If you want a recap, then here it is:

  • We hate Kansas City.
  • We didn't get Eric Berry.
  • We drafted Joe Haden.
  • We're still without a safety.

Discuss.

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The dream is over.

No one has mentioned that on this site yet.

ahh, this feels niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

Clausen falling is good news for our chances of getting McCoy in the second.

One can certainly hope.

We hate Clausen around here that much that this constitutes a good point?! Amazing.

Heck if they both keep falling I wouldn’t mind either one of them

doesn’t bother me, we didn’t take him

I think McCoy is the most underrated QB of the draft. I would be very happy to see him in a browns uniform

and you want McCoy? durability factor….short and dont go drew brees on me.

He’s a firey, extremely accurate QB with reasonable arm strength and great understanding of the game. He’s got solid mechanics, a quick release, and is fairly mobile. He had one injury and we have a good line, I’m not overly worried about the injury factor.

We’re talking second round, not top 5.

And it seemed like a pretty freak injury he had when he was running the ball—something we’d rarely ask him to do.

I hate how it’s only round 1 tonight :-/

Maybe a safety in the 3rd? I doubt anyone gets moved there.

No Clausen. But no Berry.

In say we take Coleman in the 3rd

No way!!!
Kurt Coleman is not an NFL starting-caliber saftey

I predict we trade back in for Odrick.

Deion Sanders is doing a good job on the stage – he’s fun to watch interview these kids.

Deion Sanders gets way too close to his interviewee.

Good point about next years draft being REALLY deep on QBs.

I feel like we dodged a bullet (thankyouverymuchKC). Haden will do great things for us as a corner or as a safety. Well done hoheini!

I needed to hear that. Thanks.

Channel 19 has the Heckert/Mangini press conference live. The graphic at the bottom of the screen reads: Breaking News! Haden is a Cornerback!

Mangini called Haden a ‘green sticker guy’. Heckert said ‘we liked him all along’.

Who is this guy?

That’s a reach for Alualu.

Getting drafted 101:

Get some hair.

Am I drafted Yet?

Cmon, somebody has gotta admit it was funny

huge reach! aaaaack!

This could end up being a good pick. Maybe not particularly flashy.

I do love how all draft boards are now completely screwed.

Tyson Alualu????

Here comes the Clausen FREEFALL.

Hopefully it’s not the browns that break his fall like they did for quinn

Damn they’re really trying to get the Jags out of florida

They’re up for the L.A. team

Wow, just like March Madness, my board is fucked.

Clausen: “Now I’m freeeeee. Freeeeefalling!”

Brady Quinn is his hero

OH MY…

I like him, but?

Well for one thing Mayock loves him.

I loved seeing Kiper’s shocked expression at Alualu falling.

49ers traded up.

Denver trades with SF?

Bizarre pick by Jacksonville. He’s not a lock as a starter.

Hes Troy Palamalu light

In the beginning of the offseason I predicted Alualu to go in the first. Just not like this. WOW

Bet they traded Alex Smith

Traded their 4th rounder.

to denver? don’t they have Quinn and Orton already?

Berman’s tie is terrible in HD

We couldn’t get this trade? Damn.

So when the Jaguars move to LA, what will their name be?

I liked Florio’s suggestion: The London Shaguars

Clausen to 49ers I bet.

Why? Smith looked good last year.

Why would they need to leapfrog Miami for that?

They have another 1st rounder.

Would havE preferred Earl Thomas. He was in 4.3s and Mayock said he was most instinctive safety in a while – fwiw

I’m disappointed – but I am sure they tried hard to trade down.

I was looking online, Haden’s 40s at his pro day were reportedly anywhere from 4.38 to 4.46. Plus, the turf was wet. He was running on an outdoor field that looked like either real grass or fieldturf, so being wet it was probably a slow surface.

Made me feel a little better.

I had Tyson Alualu rated as a top of the second round talent

Yep, trade indeed has developed here…only cost a fourth rounder? Thought that’s what ESPN said. Seems kind of cheap to move up.

This draft is moving quick

Oh nvm about Clausen…

They are solid on Smith now.

I’m trying to figure out who SF is after to beat out the Dolphins

Anthony Davis to the 49ers. Wonder why they traded up…

Esp. with Buluga still around

Good pick by SF, I think.

Anthony Davis is the pick for the 49ers.

z

I was getting ready to say damn he doesn’t look all that happy

ha…I almost left a z up in my box earlier

I used to do it all the time, trying to type, drink, eat, and watch the draft

That trade ended anticlimactically.

This guy on NFLN is ruining all the picks by anouncing them before Godell

It’s not very hard to know when the camera zooms in on a player who is on a cell phone.

Miami only a slight possibility for Clausen. They seem sold on Henne for this year.

No chance they take Clausen. (Famous last words?)

SD just traded for the miami pick

Bryant?

No wait…Miami just got Marshall

uh… all that for … Anthony Davis?

That’s what I said

Wait… Clausen to Seattle coming up?

That or he might want to take a nap

Ryan Matthews to SD?

I’m calling Dez Bryant.

they just got Marshall though in a trade

oops…sorry bout the bold

Traded it to San Diego.

Has to be defense

Earl Thomas?

Maybe, or Morgan or Kindle

Cavs were down by 21… now 8

Apparently they were watching for the Brown’s pick as well.

Mo Williams just getting abused.

Buffalo is going tebow in the second round

Their oline is completely wretched though.

Definite possibility. Assuming Clausen isn’t there.

Chargers up from 28. Wow. Dan Williams?

I mentioned Williams 5 seconds before Mayock. They should hire me…

or not. It’s Mathews. Wow.

Shouldn’t Heckert and Mangini be in the war room? Why are they on tv?

Too much smoke in the room, gotta let it air out

Draft is over for today for them.

You never know.

Odrick. Odrick. Odrick.

I guess we aren’t trading back up into the late first today?

Well I’m done trying to predict this crap. I’m clearly terrible at it.

It is pretty much impossible.

little early??

I’d have to imagine they gave a lot up to move up too…

Three straight picks that seem early…

Broncos doing what we were doing last season. Just droppin down the board.

Wait, another trade now?

Phi traded now. Earl Thomas is gone.

Broncos traded down. Eagles up.

Wow, TWO third rounders for Thomas.

I hope Pitt has a shitty pick.

this…a ala Ryan Leaf type pick

yeah, another Ziggy Hood

Pouncey or Iupati.

I want to watch the Cavs game, but the last time I walked away from the draft it was pick #21 overall, and we traded up to get Quinn. uggh

And that turned out awesome!

You aren’t missing much. They are playing like crap.

Down 13. Looks like Chicago’s got this one. But there’s still an entire qtr left.

I called it a mistake right then, true story.

You aren’t missing much. Rose is making our guards look silly atm. Looks like an off game which is fine by me. The more games we play the happier I’ll be.

Problem is the Cavs still haven’t learned how to play defense and LBJ still thinks he’s a jump shooter.

Can’t argue with the results though. We’ll see. Like I said. I’d rather this series went to 6 games and we get some good rip. Treat these like practice games.

I’m with you on playing tough ones but you gotta see progress. Boston after this and then Orlando. That scares me.

LBJ still thinks he’s a jump shooter can actually shoot jumpers now, to go along with his belief that he is a jump shooter.

My Charger friends are pisssd.

they shoule be

Well I would hope that what somebody said earlier is true. With Haden and Brown now in the secondary, we should start doing much more man coverage with lots o blitz packages.

where is Brown going to play if Haden is our 2nd CB

Nickel, we could line him up at FS depending on his ability there, etc. You can’t have too many good CBs today in the NFL.

Denver’s setting themselves up for Pouncey

I blame Phil Savage.

More appropriate than your other charges against him.

Sense of humor. Look into it.

Still disappointed about the pick, my bad.

We all are. Hopefully we take out Cassell a few times in our home opener to show them that they should have draft O-line instead of taking our pick.

And we can have Haden shutting down Bowe. That’d show em.

WWHHHATTTTT!!!!

How many times are you going to say that?

FYI: Rocland’s repetitive cynicism gets a lot less annoying when you read his posts aloud in your best Mr. Spacely voice.

i think were going to move up

I have a feeling about Odrick. I don’t think we are going to see any QB for us until late 3rd.

Brandon Graham to the Eagles.

apparently Tom Heckert was the brains of that operation

Muck Fichigan.

from a WVU fan…THIS!!!!!!!!!

Clausen to Seattle I bet

How many “we should’ve traded down” comments/diaries do we see in the next few days?

Don’t think we could’ve.

Obviously. That’s the point.

I think we would have, if we had the opportunity. Especially with a tie on the other CB

eh, I’m happy with Joe Haden

OMG LETZ TRAID UP FER TEEEBOW!

Fuck the commish for not including the second round today. dammit

F this stupid new york song. Why is NFL headquarters there anyway?

I’m guessing Seatle takes Clausen now.

I want the camera on Clausen!!!

Is he there? I sure remember BQ sweating it out.

Nah he’s not there.

Has to be Thomas.

Earl Thomas, good pick.

So much for Taylor Mays

And Clausen continues to drooooooooooop.

Thomas is going to be a beast. Good for Seattle

Clausen to the Vikes.

I really wish we would have picked him. But I won’t cry a river over Haden

He’s pretty ripped for a smaller safety

Could the Bengals take Clausen?

First time anyone on this site has mentioned that.

Hmmm, NFL Draft, Cavs game, or Aliens rerun on SyFy

Aliens is on? If the Cavs don’t close out I know what I’m switching to. The draft is slower than baseball. I can follow that online.

Taylor Mays – possible to make it thru to tomorrow? Would be sweet!

Would it be? Where would you take him?

I’d take him with our 2. That would be solid.

I don’t really know but people really seemed down on his ability. Especially translating to the NFL level.

2nd – and lay off QB. We need a safety and guy is like 230 and runs 4.3. That is a freak – mangini can teach cover skilss dammit

yeah, cuz it would push Morgan Burnett and Nate Allen down too

JPP when they have Justin Tuck and Osi?

Perhaps their looking for an OLB?

Best avail on their board

Cavs cut it to FOUR.

Lakers!!! (Oh sorry, wrong board.)

I’m out…looks like were done for this 1st round. Talk at you guys in the morn

I really don’t like this draft format.

As of now, I’m with you. However, I reserve the right to change my opinion if we kill it out on day 2.

ya its more fun getting drunk on Saturday and chillen with friends watching the draft.

Yes, now I’m just watching the draft and drinking alone.

me to but cant drink to much with work in the am

Cavs down by TWO.

49ers doing well. Davis and Iupati? Crazy.

Still wonderin’ what the Broncos are up to.

I was thinking Iupati was gonna fall to the Steelers. Very happy that he went one pick ahead of them.

They might go for Pauncey now though. Who isn’t half-bad either.

You’re right, but I’d rather face Pouncey twice a year than Iupati.

Pitt… Dez Bryant?

Who cares?

CLAUSEN and trade Burger!

Love first round OTs. So San Francisco is solid now.

I hope this Pouncey dude sucks.

Wow, check out that guys chain and his, girlfriend?

Seahawks….Okung and Thomas. NOT bad at all.

HAHA You guys hear the crowd screaming “SHE SAID NO! SHE SAID NO! SHE SAID NO!”

Is it possible McCoy—> Seahaws round 2?

I still feel like we should take him end of round 1.

that kid who announced for the steelers didnt do his fanbase stereotype any favors

Ouch. Ripping a kid from the make-a-wish foundation?

Cavs are going to lose.

Terrible call.

HORRIBLE call. One of the worst calls I’ve seen in a long time.

Seriously

what happened?

We’re down six final minute, LeBron drives and Deng slides into his path. Charging. It wasn’t even close, Deng was dragging a foot.

Relative to his star power, LeBron gets no calls. If he weighed 50lbs less, the refs would be calling a lot more fouls when he drove.

That one fell so far outside the realm of “he’s big so let it slide” that it would have been infuriating even if the game wasn’t on the line, which it was.

well, hopefully it’ll wake them up a bit.

Im not adverse to them getting a bit of a fight in the first round

This is more than a fight. Derek Rose is bending them over his knee and spanking them.

+1. We know what happens when we steamroll teams and sit around for a week.

well, I didnt think we’d sweep them..and they DO need to wake the hell up. This kind of recent play isnt gonna beat orlando, LA, OR the celtics for that matter.

Annnnnd… more bullshit as Noah rapes LeBron under the basket, no call.

Really terrible officiating.

its pretty awful officiating, but we’re so much better than chicago there really isn’t an excuse for this game being close.

It was more like an NHL facewash.

Pouncey, I heard you had a problem with big Dlinemen…..meet Shawn Rogers biotch

How does Pouncey compare to Mack?

Knock on Mack was speed and dealing with stunts. Knock on Pouncey is he lacks the ability to counter big DTs bull rush.

doesn’t compare really. Although Pouncey is a little more mobile than Mack, but Mack is alot stronger at the point

Mack was the better prospect. Pouncey is good, but I thought Mack was the best I’d seen in several years, not just that class.

Bulaga falling along with Clausen

Bulaga was always considered a mid-late round pick, then he shot up a couple weeks ago.

Who’s still in the green room apart from Bulaga?

If we trade our 2nd, 3rd, 5th and move up while I’m at the store, I’m gunna throw a fit.

at this point i think our 2nd and 3rd would get us up

i think our second, third, and a viagra would probably get us up.

Gresham to the Bengals

Hope he sucks too.

Cavs down 1… 3.8 seconds left though

It’s REALLY not over until it’s REALLY over.

Demaryius Thomas over Dez Bryant for the Broncos? Wow.

Wishful thinking but if McCoy is gone by the time we pick and Bryant is there – I wouldn’t mind him.

Bryant would be a steal if he drops to us in the second.

Take him over Colt any day of the week. Colt’s falling to the 3rd or late 2nd.

Hell no he isn’t

That’s surprising. Then again he has character issues.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Bryant pull a Crabtree and try to get a contract for more than where he was drafted. If it looks like a diva and smells like a diva…

Ughhhh that almost went in!

Ok not almost but you know what I mean

Game over, Cavs lose.

Some seriously bad officiating in that game.

Officiating affected the last 5 min of the game. Truth be told they should never have been in that position. You can’t continue to get beat on the offensive boards, allow Rose to drive to the foul line before getting stopped by a defender and let a douche like Noah dictate the tone of the game.

But the last 5 min was disgustingly bad.

We’ll win the next 2.

I don’t think losing is all that bad. I don’t like it when there is a whole week off between rounds. Losing a game is good for the team

Hmmmm Pats take Dez?

We can’t blame the officiating for not playing defense in the first half. Oh well. We’ll get the next one.

Denver is such a trainwreck. Now Bryant slips to Baltimore.

Funny, Dez not taking as the first overall WR.

Nice pick for Packers.

Hell of a pick for Green Bay. Solid.

I wonder if AZ will take Clausen?

I bet Vikings will actually.

That’s been my prediction all day, since before we picked. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in the 2nd.

Probably. But maybe they want Colt too?

Not with the money they’re already giving Leinhart

They actually gave Anderson a pretty decent contract too. Doubt they take a QB.

Uhh . . . Kyle Wilson (who we apparently were considering at 7) is still available.

Shoulda traded down. /sarc

Some said we were. Don’t know if we really were.

It was him or Haden.

I think we are taking a Safety or WR (G. Tate?) with the 2nd.

Nope. McCoy

Doubt we take a QB this year.

never mind that holmgren specifically stated we were.

Yay! I just hope the Seahawks don’t take him…

dumbass ne just traded

well nevermind

Todd McShay hahahahaha.

Someone tell him they traded the pick.

The let him go on for like 2 minutes….

Haha yeah I was like ummm…?

i think someone did

Ahhh, looks like a nice bunch at the Bryant household. But hey, kid has a ton of talent.

i don’t see anything wrong there

Cowboys get Bryant so he doesn’t fall to the Ravens. Yay!

Ya no shit. I was terrified he was going to Baltimore.

I’m loving this guys! I hope he just slips a little furhter to Minnesota!

He?

you really don’t know who he’s talking about?

I hope he gets picked before 38 so we don’t get any funny ideas.

Wouldn’t that be a bitch.

That way you can become a “fan” of them. Ha.

Exactly

That’s not fanhood, dude. Not even close. Keep lying yourself if it helps you sleep at night though. But that same kind “fan” type can happen by just saying “I’m now a Vikings fan.”

Pretending Clausen gives it legitimacy is just joke.

OK, then who should I route for

haden

what are the chances joe haden is turned into a safty since we seem to already have two starters?

hadn’t thought of that, its a possibility.

More likely Sheldon to safety. If we wanted a safety we would’ve got E. Thomas. Both were reaches anyway.

how can you say we didnt want a safety?

I meant if we wanted a safety at 7. Course we want a safety. Well at least I do.

Either they saw CB as priority over S. Or they think they’re going to move a CB to S.
Or they pick one up later.

zero. Better chance they move Brown to safety.

pretty sure they didn’t know thehyw ere being recorded

didn’t you see chris berman trying to tell them to shut up?

Wilson to Ravens I bet. Take a sloppy seconds.

Of course

LOL, DENVER IS SUCH A JOKE.

damn sucks for quinn

Tebow’s on the phone! Everybody stop what you’re doing!

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I’m so confused.

ROFL, WHAT A JOKE!

Clausen just got owned.

HAHAHAHA I didn’t think about that.

hahaha jaws will be rubbing this in our faces.

HAH SUCK IT BRADY YOU PIECE OF CRAP QB

They traded up to take a kid that wasn’t going to be drafted until the 2nd round.

Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow. LULZ

Tebow to the Broncos!

Better than to the Patriots or Steelers, I didn’t want him to go to a team I don’t like.

You haven’t been a Browns fan long, eh?

A 4tth round FB just got drafted in the 1st as a QB

Tebow’s like "Damn, I should’ve gone to the draft!’

Wow, Denver is going to have a bunch of “really nice” average NFL players.

maybe Orton will teach Tebow how to get drunken pics all over the internet

LMAO what a flop LMAO

everyone on ESPN is saying how he’s going to flop!!

Stupid Denver.

is that Tebow sucks?

Wait, what the heck? All that for Tebow?

When are the Ravens picking now?

No word yet on trade details.

Goodell just gave a “WTF” face

This just makes it even more likely that McCoy is there for us in round 2.

Clausen could be there in round two

i can’t see him lasting past minni

One of those guys doesn’t slip by Minnesota.

I would like that.

What did they trade to move up?

Question of the draft. I’m baffled.

Oops. Thought that said “why”

Crazy. But they did manage to stockpile those picks. They did the most wheeling and dealing.

HERE COMES ALL PRAISE TO BABY JESUS.

Jaws is rich now. His boyfriend just got paid.

McDaniels to work with Tebow. I wish him the best of luck.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

Of course someone’s interviewing him already.

he sounds like that guy on looney toons. “which way did he go george? which way did he go?”

I can’t believe this flop got taken in the first. Are you serious?

I feel bad for Rufio.

1. He fell asleep or something.
2. He lives in Denver. Ouch

They might want to turn on a riot watch or something like that. I know if the Browns just pulled that shit there’d be cars and couches burning the streets.

I would’ve flipped a shit.

I’d of gone BEAST MODE on Holmgren’s face

I’d of punched bernie’s neighbor, i don’t care where the fuck he went.

I don’t understand that whenever you say it.

Tim Couch would be burning alive in the streets?

Nice.
But, yes. They’d have dragged him back here just to do it. It would have been worth.

Let’s take a moment to enjoy the fact that isn’t the case.

Haha, I bet it was actually a focus on the family conspiracy (they are HQ’d on Colorado Springs).

I was talking to baby Jesus about my work ethic, my heart, my work ethic, blessed, god, work ethic, all my heart, work hard, baby jesus, work hard, my heart….. praise the lord. BLAH BLAH

I wonder what’s going on @ Mile High Report.

I went to have a look. Too many subject lines.

Quinn + Orton + Tebow = worst trainwreck ever?

we have a better QB situation

No. None of the Browns QBs are as good as the Broncos’.

seneca wallace is better than brady quinn, jake delhomme had a historically awful year, but his average season is better than Orton’s average season, and brett ratliff is better than tebow

orton? tebow? we already got rid of quinn

= too much mcdaniels’s ego

WTF is with ESPN. TRADE DETAILS ARSEHOLES.

Herm Edwards is having trouble reading off his cards in the Joe Haden video here:

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/live

After seeing Denver, I LOVE our QB situation

First round QBs taken:
Sam Bradford
Jimmy Clausen
Tim Tebow???

I think you messed up.

I’m not saying Jimmy won’t be taken. I’m saying everyone expected Jimmy but Tim took his place essentially.

Just saying I don’t get why Clausen is marked out

because he wasn’t taken in the 1st

You like the Broncos HAHA.

he changed his mind

Because he’s the type of fan that is OK with doing that, changing his mind on the teams he likes in moments.

After seeing Denver, I LOVE our QB situation

Safe pick. McCoy is still ours.

i’m praying to joe thomas as we speak

If Joe Thomas was making the cals, we’d move up for free.

It’d be funny to see McCoy taken ahead of Clausen too, but it’s not worth the Browns losing him.

They’re saying they traded 2md, 3rd, and a 4th

claussen montage time

There is literally a fanpost on MHR called “If we draft Tebow, I’m going to PUKE!”

Uh oh.

i hope he had a bucket handy

um, yeah Michael…but if Tebow doesn’t become great Josh McDaniels gets fired

NFL Network reporting that Buffalo is crestfallen because they didn’t get Tebow. They ought to be rejoicing.

I’m crushed. I was pretty sure tebow would go in the 20s and I think the Browns probably missed out bigtime. I fucking hate the broncos.

Yea, I kinda do too.

Why did they just do a Browns draft pick montage?

for claussen’s sake i think

kyle wilson still on the board

maybe teams only see him as a nickel

IND will probably take him.

Didnt they have 2 rookie corners last year?

Oh. Well then nvm. I just assumed b/c there secondary’s not that great. Or maybe it is.

Idk what I’m talking about so ignore me haha.

i thought you weren’t old enough to drink?

Nah, I was asking. I wasn’t really sure.

i miss a thread jump?

golden tate and dan lefevorr! next two picks

Colt McCoy will be our 2nd round pick. I’d say I’m 85% sure of that.

Honestly, only QB I’d take there would be Clausen. McCoy is too small.

So’s Drew Brees.

Are you really comparing McNuggett to Brees?

? That was a stupid line

Just saying there’s more to being a quarterback than having size. Ryan Leaf and Todd Marinovich had NFL quarterback size.

Height wouldn’t be the reason McCoy flops in the NFL. He’s actually taller than Brees.

I would like McCoy, Morgan Burnett, Nate Allen, Vladimir Ducasse, Corey Wootton, Linval Joseph, Arrelious Benn, Brandon Lafell, or Taylor Price

Lots of talent still out there

Too bad we don’t 3 2nd round picks

I wish I could be 85% sure, but I’m not at all. I think we’ll take IF he is available, but I’m worried he just might not be there.

Oh I’m saying if he is there.

Yeah, I meant if he is there I’m 85% sure.

I think we need to trade up ahead of SEA in the 2nd (unless they take Clausen).

I’d rather have Arrelious Benn, Brandon Lafell, or Taylor Price than Golden Tate

and I wouldn’t take Lefevour until the 4th round (maybe trade up?)

idk about tate i just know our receivers are crap. but i realllly like lafevor. but hes not talked about much?

Looks like Odrick for the Fish.

I’m back, just heard about Tebow. Awesome.

Clausen is OFFICIALLY a second rounder.

HAHAHAHAHAhahahaha!

The Vikings could take him

Why? Vikes could take him.

Oh completely forgot damn it.

Now he’s officially a 2nd rounder. Vikings trade the pick to Lions.

This will be interesting. I’m thinking Hughes

So far I’ve had only four picks exactly correct in my mock: the first three, then Berry at #5. I did have San Francisco taking Davis with their first pick, but at 13, not 11.

If anyone here predicted that Clausen would fall to the 2nd, kudos to you.

I think Bernie19Kosar did.

Everyone.

We all certainly wanted it to happen. Can’t say I feel bad for him at all.

i mean i didn’t think it was out of the realm of possibility, but i didn’t think it would actually happen

I know Daniel Jeremiah of MovetheSticks said it from Day 1.

Scary

yeah, now they’ve got a real scary nickle back

where do you throw?

to a running back, run lots of screens and draws.

all game?

if they bring 9 all game why not?

I wasn’t stating that they should bring all 9.

The Jets will bring 11.

Clausen would be a heck of a value in the second round

Don’t see how the Browns pass on him if he’s available.

Kyle Wilson to the Jets.

Can their CB situation get any better?

He’ll get burned a lot deep. But ya, solid pro longterm.

and just imagine if brodney pool doesnt get hurt this year. what? it could happen.

If Cromartie remembers how to tackle and Wilson can go from covering WAC defenders inconsistently to covering NFL WRs consistently, then no.

But I’d swap CBs with them in a heartbeat.

Minn’s going to take Clausen.

Just thinking…Brandon McDonald might not bounce back from this demotion

i don’t think i want him to

…unless he shocks us all and lines up at FS

Why would he line up there, when we have Eric Wright to do that?

I didn’t know he was ever in a position to bounce back. He was never starter material.

The Jets can fucking blitz 9 guys now. Thats crazy

and get burned on screens

i hate the jets.

I hope they blitz all 9 at once against us.

Joe T, Eric, Mack, and Vickers could handle 7 of them
I’m sure our RG & RT can manage 1 on 1

i really think we oughta wait til the later rounds, throw our lot with a late round QB like Lafevour or Brown, and adress our defensive backfield in these earlier rounds. Next year’s QB draft class is more promising IMO and we have enough now at QB to improve on our gains last year.

Mays might be there.

Drew Brees the new Madden coverboy. Sorry, New Orleans. Back to back ain’t happenin’ for ya.

That means that thing on his face will break it’s leg.

these espn commentators are ridiculous

I’ve switched to NFL Network, despite the icky presence of Michael Irvin.

Minnesota has traded to Detroit and looks like the Lions are taking Jahvid Best.

Now Clausen is a second rounder! HAhahahaha.

Vikings trading pick to Lions?

Yeah, Clausen’s a 2nd rounder now for sure barring trade.

Ahh…Oh well

Vikings still get Clausen.

I’d say it’s more likely now than ever.

How?

They just got Detroit’s 2nd rounder.

Not a good day to be a former Notre Dame QB.

“It’s never a good day to be a former Notre Dame QB” – Rick Mirer

Then Joe Montana appeared, and everything changed.

..in his big ass Skechers.

I’m sure Clausen is happy about joining the Vikings though, unless money is more important than winning, which is the case for A LOT of players.

this could be bad, now vikings may still take a QB (clausen or mccoy) if they get detroits 2nd rounder ahead of us

I feel pretty confident we are going to have good options available with the 2nd round pick. With those 3 3rd rounders and a whole night to reset our draft board…that could be interesting.

why did they show that? sickening

That was scary and extremely nasty. I cringed for like a minute

I must have missed it…?

What did they show? Wasn’t paying attention.

Jahvid Best’s injury. Brutal.

Well, it’s not that bad. Thought they showed a broken bone or something. It is injury history.

they showed him landing, helmet popping off, and him frozen on the ground = bad

best’s concussion

what about mays in the second? anyone cool with that

If McCoy is still available, no. On second thought…just no.

This.

Why are you guys so in love with a QB who won’t play until year two at best? I don’t get it.

Would anyone we draft tom. be a surefire starter?

Back to Mays, last time I checked we don’t have a safety. He’d start.

I’m not against Mays or McCoy tom., i was just wondering if anyone we took tom. would be inked in as a starter

however if we want to get a potential starting QB this year, will we wait past tom.?

We don’t need a “potential” starting QB for this year. That’s why we signed Delhomme and traded for Wallace. No QB we draft this year is seeing the field beyond injury to our first two guys.

I"m not talking about starting this year, i’m talking about for the future, i don’t see wallace or delhomme being our starter of the future. I thought Holmgren made a comment about taking a QB this year, which is why i said “potential starting QB this year”

 We’re thinking beyond 2010 though. We almost all agree that a rookie QB needs to sit and learn for at least a year, why not now under a good veteran?

Good value in the 2nd round. Accurate, hard worker, smart. Should be a great fit for the WCO.

Barring any last second catastrophes, I’m pretty happy with round one.

1. The Browns didn’t mortgage the rest of the draft chasing Bradford or Berry.
2. The Browns got Haden.
3. The Browns didn’t take Clausen or Tebow.
4. The Steelers didn’t get Iupati.
5. The Browns still have all of their picks.

And the Ravens robbed Denver of a 2,3 and 4. Sorry to buzzkill. Although they didn’t get Bryant.

Good Lord! To think, there was plenty of talk last year about bringing McDaniels to Cleveland. Thank god we dodged that bullet.

He has been an unmitigated disaster.

We could still end up with Clausen.

To me Clausen (don’t know why i keep putting “ss”) on Friday is better than Clausen thursday

Yeah. Douche or not, he’ll be hard to pass up at 39.

I don’t think the Vikings will pass on him. But if they do, I’d still MUCH rather have McCoy.

I think I agree. There’s just something about Clausen that’s iffy too me. Idk.

ha ha!!! Gruden is drunk!!!

I’m not watching anymore. What’s happening?

He’s been acting drunk since this began.

He said something about dumbass when they came back from commercial

I believe he said “dumbass coaches”

I was wondering i just heard the dumbass, wonder if he was still talking about tebow

He’s trying to void his ESPN contract so he can coach.

GRUDEN"S GOT HIS DICK OUT!

Watch his face as other people talk! I shit you not, this guy is making funny faces at them.

Gruden’s baked.

would not be surprised.

Clausen has been working with professional QB trainers since he was in 8th grade so that he could be a first round pick…he’s probably about to kill himself right now.

I wonder if we’ll have two second round picks tomorrow.

FYI, from Michael Smith, it was Mangini that wanted Kyle Wilson.

Dodged a bullet there phew

Michael Smith also said we were seriously discussing trading our entire draft on Bradford. The idea was completely ridiculous.

It was a direct quote from Mangini

I rest my case. We basically have him out there talking out of his ass. It’s funny.

I’m still excited about the chance of him to go to Minnesota.

So TJ can beat him out??
Same here!

I’d say it’s VERY likely.

But still, your “fanhood” is a total joke, dude. If you want to be a fan of the Vikings because they win, then be a fan of Vikings.

Clausen could fall to 49ers at 49. Haha.

Clausen in the second would be a good value

I agree, I’d love to grab him in the second but I don’t see him getting past KC with Charlie Weis there. They have the 4th pick of the 2nd round.

I think Seattle may pick him.

hopefully we trade a 3rd and 5th and move up

if we trade a 3rd and a 5th to move up and get Clausen he would lose all value of being there in the 2nd, outside of his contract

trading one of the many picks we have, that we probably wouldn’t use effectively anyway, wouldn’t affect value; especially since we’ll be saving 30 million

Trading a pick away because we probably won’t use it effectively is a terrible rationale.

How would we be saving 30 million? a third and a fifth, no matter the position, will top out at 10 million combined.

The important thing is that there are still plenty of teams standing between us and Clausen.

Wow, considering walterfootball loves ripping the Browns, I’m surprised he gave our pick an “A”.

I think he went back and changed it. He now has it as a B. I just figured it out…walterfootball IS TRSS…

I am thinking “what is up with walterfootball’s man love for clausen” and then it hit me. He gave Arizona a D for their pick b/c they got a good value on a NT instead of taking clausen.

Ha Bradford goes 1st and Tebow is the lead

Well, that’s because the first thing was expected and the second thing was not.

If i’m the number 1 pick, i want to be the lead.

You get 50 million dollars. I think being the lead on draft day takes a back seat.

That doesn’t matter. The lead is the biggest story, what most people will be talking about, and that’s not the Rams picking the guy everyone expected them to take at 1. Tim Tebow going as high as he did is undoubtedly a big story.

You know, ESPN could do many things better, but people can take it way too far, looking to critcize every little thing they do. Tim Tebow is a big story and people want to talk about him, whether you like it or not.

Tebow was going to be the lead no matter what. ESPN is probably bumming that he didn’t fall to the second day, because it would have doubled the television audience. For whatever reason Tebow is the biggest draw in the whole draft, period.

I’m pretty sure picking Joe Haden means moving Sheldon Brown to safety.

The Eagles moved Troy Vincent from corner to safety when Heckert was there, btw

Mangini said he wouldn’t be moving to safety.

Probably only in the scenario where Mike Adams remains atop the depth chart come training camp.

He has said he’s lined CBs up at FS to have them come down to cover slot WRs though.

It makes sense to do, but you are tipping your hand as to your coverage.

3 guys I want in Kindle, Clausen, and Mays at worst end up with Price or McCoy. Good night for the Browns

we still need a safety who can cover – nate allen or morgan burnett at #38 please – not mays – his own coach passed on him to draft earl thomas.

looking back, I know it sucks that kansas city got berry, but maybe it was for the best. Sheldon brown is nice, but this was a very deep CB draft with a lot of good players. however, there was a huge CB run in the late first and by the time we picked, most of the guys I liked were off the board in the 2nd round anyways. personally I would rather have haden and ward than berry and speivey.

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