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Cleveland Browns Staying Settled in Free Agency (Recap)

Free agency in the NFL certainly got off to an eventful start, even if the Cleveland Browns weren't at the center of discussion. Here is a brief recap of the teams who made the biggest splash:

Free Agency Around the NFL

  • Lets start with the Chicago Bears. Julius Peppers signed a six-year deal worth about $91.5 million, with about $42 million of that guaranteed. I can't help but think this is a poor decision for the Bears. They already blew a ton of money on Jay Cutler last season, and now they have guaranteed over $40 million to a defensive end who is 30 years old. Peppers' best days are probably behind him, and although he should still be productive, the Bears needed a lot more help on defense than at just one position.

    (Browns news after the jump)

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  • Chicago also signed RB Chester Taylor, the player who would've been my top pick to be the Browns' backup running back. Taylor will get $12.5 million over four years, with $7 million of that guaranteed. I imagine Matt Forte and Taylor will split carries. The other signing was that of TE Brandon Manumaleuna, who signed a five-year deal. Now the rumors are circulating as to whether or not TE Greg Olsen will be dealt. He'd certainly be an attractive option for the Browns after being severely underutilized by the Bears.
  • Besides acquiring Corey Williams from the Browns, the Detroit Lions went out and signed DE Kyle Vanden Bosch and WR Nate Burleson. Overall, I guess the moves were ok for the Lions, as they acquired two starters for their defensive line and a receiver to line up opposite Calvin Johnson. Still, for Burleson's production, it almost seems like a Donte Stallworth type of contract he's receiving. I see the moves as acceptable, but nothing nearly enough to suddenly start contending with the Packers or the Vikings.
  • I think the Ravens made a really good move in acquiring Anquan Boldin from the Cardinals for a third- and fourth-round pick. He'll get a 28 million contract, but it's not like the Ravens made a move at one player who will be the only threat on their offense. Ray Rice is already a machine on the ground, and between Derrick Mason, Mark Clayton, Stallworth, and now Boldin, one could argue that Baltimore has the best group of receivers in the division.
  • The Jets didn't get the best cornerback tandem possible in Darrelle Revis and Nnamdi Asomugha, but now they have Revis and Antonio Cromartie. I don't quite agree with Ryan's assessment, as Cromartie has some weaknesses, but he had high praise for the former Charger:
    As a cornerback, he has "extraordinary gifts," according to Rex Ryan, who said Cromartie's man-to-man coverage skills are so good that he can use him occasionally on the No. 1 receiver instead of Darrelle Revis.
  • Without Kurt Warner, Boldin, and now Antrel Rolle (who signed with the Giants), I sense that there will be a new division leader in the NFC West this year. Just in, the Cardinals also just lost Karlos Dansby to the Miami Dolphins. Another big loss for the Cardinals, but a big gain for the Dolphins.

Cleveland Browns in Free Agency

The Browns were obviously active right away with the trading of Corey Williams, a deal which will net a fifth-round pick for the Browns and prevent us from having to pay him his roster bonus (the Browns also gave the Lions a seventh-rounder).

For what Williams contributed to the Browns, in hindsight, I'd love to have that second-round pick back. At the time though, we were pretty much thrilled with the decision and I drank the Kool-Aid in belief that it was a great move. Here are the other notes and rumors that have been surrounding the Browns in free agency:

  • As everyone knows by now, Joshua Cribbs' new contract was announced Friday. He received a three-year deal worth $20 million, with $7.5 million guaranteed. As anticipated, it was a true compromise between the Browns' $5 million offer and Cribbs' wishes for $10 million.

    Cribbs undoubtedly helped make the Browns a respectable team last year, from giving us the best starting field position in football to being a threat out of the Wildcat formation. The team now needs to work on finding a way to get him the ball more often on offense next year, even if it is as a receiver and not out of the Wildcat. As a receiver, we can find opportunities to give Cribbs the ball short and set up quick blocks down the field.
  • Amidst D'Qwell Jackson being upset about his 2nd-round tender, the Browns are set to meet with LB Scott Fujita today. Fujita played OLB in the 4-3 for the Super Bowl Champion New Orleans Saints, but would probably move to the inside in the Browns' 3-4 defense. For the right price, I think Fujita fits in nicely with the type of players Eric Mangini likes to recruit.
  • The situation at quarterback is where we could be seeing the biggest headlines still. Will there be a suitor for Derek Anderson (the Cardinals)? Will there be a surprise in which Brady Quinn gets dealt? Will the Browns move to trade for Matt Hasselbeck, Donovan McNabb, or Seneca Wallace? Or, could the Browns end up bringing in David Carr if he doesn't sign with the 49ers? I'm really not too interested in Carr being a member of the Browns, but I'd be open to the other options. In the end though, I'm still willing to wait patiently and see what Quinn could do with a full season of work.
  • The Browns did sign one free agent -- one of our own. That would be S Ray Ventrone, who received a three-year, $2.2 million deal.
  • OL Ryan Tucker officially announced that he's retiring.
  • Because the Seahawks gave a fourth-round tender to OG Rob Sims, there is speculation that another team will jump in to sign him. He has ties to Ohio and OSU, and a few writers have speculated that the Browns would seem like a good landing spot for him. After losing Hank Fraley and Rex Hadnot, Sims could be the type of former player that Holmgren would want to land in Cleveland.

I can't really say I'm disappointed by the fact that the Browns haven't made a "splash" in free agency. When I look at most of these contracts that are being handed out, I'm saying "pass" at every one of them. The only moves that have been remotely attractive to me are the ones that involve trades.

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I’m still willing to wait patiently and see what Quinn could do with a full season of work.

I don’t think it’s worth wasting another entire season. But that is just my opinion.

Does it really matter? Even if we got Peyton Manning there’s probably no chance we win the superbowl next year anyway. So might as well see what the guy has and if he sucks we get a high draft pick anyway.

I think it does matter if it prohibits a move to get a potential future starter. Not saying that it would but if it does that would be a problem. If by keeping Quinn we don’t make a decision to bring in someone we like for the future than we become a year behind in developing our future starter.

Here is my question:

I have seen more than once from different places that the Browns are really being active in this market. The term “burning up the phones” has been applied actually. If the Browns are so active, why are there so few rumors surrounding their offseason activities. On the surface we seem to be as quiet as Pittsburgh and Cinci but according to reports we are calling around the NFL looking to deal. Why so cloak and dagger?

Will the Browns be able to make something happen with all this activity? And if so, what?

Just because we aren’t hearing anything doesn’t mean that they aren’t trying.

I know they are trying, but what are they trying to do, and will they get it done? To be honest I am actually pretty happy with the Holmgren regime so far. Looking to make some moves but not foolishly throwing money at people. Dunta Robinson would have been a nice get but we may still find a CB in trade.

Heres hoping that some nice moves come from all of this activity.

Yea, Im wondering if its a case of the browns not giving up enough

It’s been 2 days.

Not even

get this man a guinness.

I expect a flurry of activity just before and during the draft. We have 12 picks and multiple players on the block.

I still want Buchannon.

About DA

Why is everyone so sure DA is as good as gone, didn’t Holgrem say prior to the combine that he hopes DA is willing to restructure his contract. Isn’t that an indication that the powers to be would maybe like to keep DA around but not at his current price. I read an article this morning that said negotiations are heating up between the two sides. I firmly believe Quinn will be dealt at some point, especially if DA agrees to a lesser contract.

I don’t think Quinn is going anywhere. He has a team friendly contract and still might have some upside. Any restructuring negotiations between DA and the Browns would likely to make his contract more friendly for a trade. Otherwise he is probably getting cut to avoid paying his roster bonus.

This. Tighten up his contract and trade him for anything we can get, even if it’s just takling sleds.

Seriously? That’s interesting. Could you show the article?

Any shot they Keep Anderson and start him?

Was it him or just the terrible overall offense? If not him can you really give the ball to Quinn? Can he throw the deep ball. Kosar could handle the blitz and frustrated defenses, Anderson has the major problem handling the blitz. WHO ARE THEY GOING TO GET??

The offense was terrible, but so was he

You do have to recognize that he went from having Edwards and Winslow to having a bunch of scrubs or rookies.

As of right now I am happy with has happened.

I think the slow period right now is because the entire NFL is trying to figure out how to operate around all of these RFA tenders.

I thought we would have a seen a trade earlier, but I am by no means discouraged. I think that we will have a new QB in town pretty soon (My money is still on Bulger).

If you find yourself getting upset, just remember we could be Cardinal fans or even worse Steeler fans.

I’m one of the guys on here that hasn’t complained about the Browns aggressiveness these last couple days. Some people don’t understand negotiations at this level of business. It takes time.
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IMO the worst negotiations are often times the quickest (unless they are dreadfully slow like crabtree last year). look at the deals made this year so far. they were extremely quick and with the exception of taylor, I would say that all the players were vastly overpayed. Even for an uncapped year, some of these are a little ridiculous.

Oh man, I don’t want Bulger at all.

I think if we protect him and give him a strong running attack, he could be decent enough for a season or so.

so could Brady, its at least as likely.

Agree. I would rather have Brady than Bulger.

I am going off the growing sentiment that Quinn won’t be a Brown much longer.

If we got the right picks for him and if we replaced him with troy smith for a 5th only circumstances where I could see trading him.

at one point when he was protected he was good. he also had elite receivers in Isaac Bruce and Holt. I don't think the offensive support is there like it was when he was great. still, he has never truly been DA bad. even this year, his QB rating was in the low 70s. while this isn't good, it isn't killing you every game usually.

I like Bulger. He stole Warner’s job when the Rams were good and played pretty well. He probably still has some game left in him.

I really don’t care who is quarterback next season. I am far more interested in getting the rest of the team right first.

I 2nd that. Really, no matter what we do this year, we still will not be a contender. So instead of getting a high priced QB destroyed, I’d rather use Quinn and build up our team. QB’s in the draft for 2011 are supposed to be better, so we can pick one up there if needed.

At this point last year, Jevan Snead was considered the possible first overall pick in this years draft.

In other words, I don’t want my team to be planning on a guy for next years draft.

don’t plan on a guy just plan on the draft. every draft has top QB prospects.

Right. It’s not like we need to know who we are targeting next season. There are always options in the draft.

Just a mention right now, but Adam Caplan is reporting that the Browns are showing an interest right now in Mike Bell.

He is going to visit Seattle, then unknown after that.

Tried to see how much money he made last year, but couldn’t find it. I wonder if Bell is cheap. He has no tender.

I am pretty sure he is UFA.

He should be really cheap, he has never struck it rich.

Mike Bell is a RFA of the Saints’

However they chose to give him the lowest possible tender (no draft pick compensation) They still retain the right to match any offer he signs, though.

Seems like a pretty solid guy though he doesn’t have the statistical production of Thomas Jones. He is 26 but he did only average 3.8 YPC last year.

I think he might just be a guy who is just not that fast or explosive for an NFL running back. He is a decent target but probably won’t be an impact player.

I think Thomas Jones is a better option but with a higher price tag. Jones is older, but has a track record of being a consummate professional while Bell has shown up to camp overweight in the past (cut by the Texans)

Bell can be very servicable. We just need him to be motivated.

Kerry Rhodes to AZ for a fourth this season and a seventh next, per Schefter.

Really solid move from AZ.

Ariz. 4th round pick this year and 7th next year shipped to the jets for kerry rhodes. So much for the brown’s “aggressiveness.” that is one of the first guys we should have looked at, and the price was right. Big fail by the Browns imo.

I would’ve given a 4th and 5th.

Thomas Jones is on his way to KC for a visit.

Sounds like the Chiefs will be aggressive with him.

I will get angry if we miss on Jones too.

I won’t get angry. I will be disappinted but if he gets overpayed, Meh…good for him.

why is everybody worried about how much he would be getting paid? He can impact us NOW, Next year just is not coming. You have to build now to win and build in the future.

why overpay a 32 year old running back? that is my question. even with an uncapped season, if you overpay a guy and give him a multi year deal, which he is likely to get, then you are still stuck with a dreadful contract for a year with a cap.

like someone said before, we shouldn’t make moves just to make moves. we have to make smart moves and think things through.

Is this you Dan Snyder?

Ive been wondering this too.

He can impact us NOW, Next year just is not coming. You have to build now to win and build in the future.

I’m not so certain Jones would be able to lead us to the playoffs. Also i’m guessing that was a typo, but “build in the future”?

I’d be disappointed if we don’t get Thomas Jones, but if the FO isn’t disappointed then ultimately it doesn’t matter.

Just a question would you guys like if we traded for TE John Carlson and reunited him with Quinn

The Seahawks are have brought in two TE for a visit

Carlson is good, but my opinion on a former ND player is nothing to everyone here.

Its true.

Of course, I meant the Carlson being being good part. ;)

I’d like him, but I’d rather have Greg Olsen from Chicago if he’s available.

Carlson would probably be cheaper though. Just saying.

but also not as good, in my opinion.

Not yet, in my opinion. I think he will be better.

I would actually prefer Carlson over Olsen.

I think he is a more “complete” TE.

I like him, but i don’t think he would be able to solve Quinn’s problems.

Couple Thoughts:

-Rob Sims would die to be a Cleveland Brown. If the Browns do sign Sims, they will have both Nordonia HIgh School products currently in the NFL.

- If the Cardinals trade anything for Derek Anderson, they will become my second favorite team.

Who is Rob sims?

OT/OG of the Seahawks who was tendered at a fourth round level.

Holmgren coached him in Seattle obviously.

Any good?

He is solid and fits our type of blocking scheme well, I would be willing to sacrifice a 4th for him which is what it would take to sign him. He definitely wants to play here.

Ugh we missed out on Kerry Rhodes big time I’m afraid. He would have made a nice pairing with Eric Berry.

I like the idea of bringing in Kirk Morrison of the Raiders.

Thomas Jones or Mike Bell, neither one will blow me away but both would make nice additions and could probably give us a couple of seasons.

It’d be nice to add a competent CB to start opposite Eric Wright (preferably a #1 CB) before the draft. If we got at least one need more or less filled before the draft I would be happy.

He would’ve but we haven’t even got Berry. Berry likely goes before 7.

What? Jones and Bell are both better than the whole running stable we have! Davis was injured so he’s untested and Harrison had 5 good games at the end of the year, who knows if it wasn’t a fluke ala DA. Productive running backs are hard to find. Lets load up on some.

Productive running backs are hard to find

Disagree, but I would like Jones or Bell.

Are you serious?

Bell: you really wanna take a chance on an inconsistent guy, who has had a history of weight problems, and has only had one decent season? He is a goal line specialist only, really…I also forgot he had only a couple of catches last year and is a nonfactor in the passing game.

Jones: Not only is he old but he has a lot of tread on the tires. whatever people say about how many yards he has run, he doesn’t have more than 1 good season left. Here is Why:

This is a list I made where i approximated around what carry certain running backs sort of hit the wall. by this I mean a significant dropoff in production.

Here are some running backs of the last generation:

Warrick Dunn: 2420
LT: 2380
Marshall Faulk: 2360
Fred Taylor: 2280
Edgerrin James: 2220
Jamal Lewis: 2150
Corey Dillon: 2100
Eddie George: 1900
Shaun Alexander: 1800

In general, if you notice a trend, the guys that break down earlier were more power guys who run between the tackles like Lewis and George. guys like Warrick Dunn and Marshall Faulk lasted about a season longer of effective football (carries wise).

Here is where Thomas Jones stands now: 2280. That is just about the time, statistically he should start to drop off in production. he is a power back and power backs don’t last much longer than that. his legs WERE not used as much earlier in his career but they have taken their toll over the last several years.

There are 2 that are more outliers in this: those are eddie george and Shaun Alexander. both of these guys saw a drop off early, but they also saw a large amount of carries over a short period of time.

Over a 5 year period. Alexander saw about 1,600 carries and Eddie George saw about 1650. Over the same period of time, Jones has seen almost 1550 carries. this tells us that he has been used just about as much as these backs. after the massive usage, both saw a drop off. Jones did have significantly less carries, HOWEVER he had them at a later age. Both George and Alexander saw this carry load start when they were around 23. Thomas jones was about 26-27 when he got all of these carries.

Conclusion: Bell isn’t anything special and I predict thomas jones will run for less than 4 ypc and see a large drop off in stats.

well said.

yep. now that I look at it, I have a bad feeling signing jones will be like signing edgerrin james after he left indy…except maybe worse. history shows he will hit a wall. I was a fan of his, then I looked at this…now I am wary.

Signing Bell isn’t really taking a chance. He may end up not being great, but he shouldn’t cost too much

I agree. for the cost he isn’t a bad risk. however annointing him like he was doing and saying he is better than all our RBs combined i dumb.

So, OT Tony Pashos is coming to visit, for what its worth.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-source_pashos_to_visit_browns_html-201036&prov=nfp&type=lgns

Is he any good? I’ve heard of him but never seen him play.

Would make a pretty decent, cost effective RT.

Would be very happy if we signed him. Low key signing who has started a lot of games in this league.

yeah. this would be great. he isn’t an amazing player but he is an above average starter that won’t hurt you and is very solid. with that, we can move porkchop on the inside.

yeah if hes a serviceable guy on the right side it’d be a nice pickup. Can grab a couple tackles in the draft and have them all battle it out in training camp.

Wasn’t he cut from JAX because of poor performance?

he has been pretty good in SF.

He never played there last year

I think the fact that Britton fell in the draft and they were able to pick him up paved the way.

If I remember right, Jax asked Tony Pashos to take a pay cut and move to guard. He said no, signed a one year deal in SF and got hurt.

He isn’t going to be a Pro Bowler but he will be a very nice solid addition to the O-Line.

Well, well, we´ve finally come around to the non discussion regarding what type of linebackers are proto-typical NFL 3-4 linebackers.
So you say Jason Trusnik, 6foot4, 250 lbs, and Matt Roth, 6foot4, 275lbs, are outside linebackers. And you have now tipped your hat that Scott Fujita, 6foot 5, 250 lbs, is an inside linebacker. I mean, you´ve long contended that Kamerion Wimbley, 6foot5, 255 lbs, and David Bowens, 6foot5, 265 lbs, are outside linebackers. Wow, how nice that the large athletes formerly resigned to d-line play, can now be sold as linebackers.
The next question is how we will get our opponents to run the ball right at these tacklers, because if they don´t it will get ugly.

Size does not predicate speed. Big guys play at different speeds; they aren’t set at a certain level because of their weight.

We should change our names to Lumberjacks, because lumber we will.

QB

enough of D.A….I would give Quinn another shot,but if troy smith wants to come to cleveland please please mr. Holmgren give this guy a look..forget the old has beens aka Bulger or hasslebeck(especially if he brings his redneck wife with him),and why didn’t we go for Boldin???

Sure you got the right Hasselbeck?

Red neck wife? What does that say about you pal?

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