Per Jay Glazer (with a nod to Dorn) has the Quinn deal.
Peyton Hillis and 2 conditional draft choices for Brady Quinn.
According to Schefter the picks are a 6th rounder in '11 and a late round pick in '12.
Adam Caplan of Sirius is reporting that the Browns have also traded Kamerion Wimbley for undisclosed draft pick.
i was going to post this by using pro football talk but then i went on and they say glazer is saying this. if pft said this. wouldnt believe it
Lancers25 - March 14, 2010
pft has been reliable on all their trades, some of the other rumors, i am sceptical
rockybrown - March 14, 2010
sounds like a decent deal, hope brady starts and we get some good picks. peyton hillis will be a good short yardage back
rockybrown - March 14, 2010
Roger Dorn - March 14, 2010
Yuck.
Bernie19Kosar - March 14, 2010
what did you expect?
rockybrown - March 14, 2010
Why not keep him until the draft if that was the best we could do?
I imagine someone will get desperate for a QB and we could have used Quinn to move up.
I like Hillis, but I don’t think he is any great shakes or anything.
Bernie19Kosar - March 14, 2010
I think this is pretty good value. After the Shaun Hill trade, I was convinced that a 7th was his value.
gahnki - March 14, 2010
Denver probably valued him more than anyone, and that’s who we dealt with. I doubt his value goes up before the first rash of injuries after the start of the season.
golanbatrac - March 14, 2010
The draft picks are lower than I’d thought. They must be high on Hillis. I’m still hoping we can use some picks to get a Strong Safety before the draft.
We might have bent the raiders over the table, who knows.
jaws. - March 14, 2010
I like Hillis as a compliment to Harrison. Big Powerful Back that will be great for short yard and goal line. Now we dont have to draft a RB early.
Skov17 - March 14, 2010
plus he is a good blocker and can spell Vickers too.
bross09 - March 14, 2010
who can’t spell vickers? it isn’t that hard of a name…
Dawg Nuts - March 14, 2010
Hillis is from Arkansas. I’ll be tickled if he can spell his own name.
golanbatrac - March 14, 2010
I meant relieve for a spell.
bross09 - March 15, 2010
You made me laugh so hard I woke up the baby.
North Coast Flea - March 15, 2010
only thing I’m bummed about is that he got traded to one of my least favorite teams. I was hoping the bills or some team I didn’t mortally despise.
jaws. - March 14, 2010
If he ever ends up playing for them, you will certainly be glad he’s on a team you don’t like.
gahnki - March 14, 2010
true dat. but I still believe he can be good. I hope he doesn’t put them over the hump.
jaws. - March 14, 2010
I would have liked him in Buffalo. That is a team I can respect. Very similar to the Browns. Blue collar cold weather team with a rich history.
Skov17 - March 14, 2010
Yeah, and I’m still holding out hope that we get Donte Whitner. He’d be perfect on this team next to Eric Berry (broken record)
jaws. - March 14, 2010
Or, more likely, no NFL GM is as high on Quinn as you are.
Buckeye Brad - March 14, 2010
I’ll laugh if he is even adequate for them.
jaws. - March 14, 2010
Why? You keep saying that he can still be a good QB, but now you say you’ll laugh if he’s even adequate for them? I’m confused.
Buckeye Brad - March 14, 2010
I think he might mean in an i told you so way.
Villeslgr - March 14, 2010
I don’t think Quinn being adequate would be an “I told you so” — I think Quinn can be an adequate QB but jaws said he’ll be better than that.
Of course, I guess it all depends on if he has another QB looking over his shoulder, because we all know a QB can’t peform if he’s being challenged by a backup. They should just release all their other QB’s and hand the job to Quinn.
Buckeye Brad - March 14, 2010
That wasn’t my position, it just seemed the only way that statement made sense.
Villeslgr - March 14, 2010
I understand, I was just commenting on why I didn’t think his statement made sense.
Buckeye Brad - March 15, 2010
Apparently Adam Caplan is reporting Wimbley was just traded to the Raiders. Trying to find a link…what the heck is going on.
Roger Dorn - March 14, 2010
NMADI!
golanbatrac - March 14, 2010
Undisclosed draft pick.
Bernie19Kosar - March 14, 2010
Berea is playing video games.
Roger Dorn - March 14, 2010
I’m very happy with trading anybody to the Raiders. Good deal assured.
gahnki - March 14, 2010
nmamdi asa…however you spell it?
rockybrown - March 14, 2010
yep. Love the word “raiders” maybe for Kirk Morrison? a second round pick? A massive pile of gold Bullion?
jaws. - March 14, 2010
cleaning house
Lancers25 - March 14, 2010
Way to be on top of things Dorn. BK is slipping. lol
Brownie's Year - March 14, 2010
Shows what I have been up to this weekend with all of the rain.
Roger Dorn - March 14, 2010
I am fired.
Bernie19Kosar - March 14, 2010
I’m just foolin’. This all happened in the last 10 mins.
Brownie's Year - March 14, 2010
Kind of surprised by Kam and not DQ. Please tell me Holmgren fleeced the Raiders.
Monsters of the Midway - March 14, 2010
DQ isn’t fast. Wimbley is.
golanbatrac - March 14, 2010
Look at Hillis’ stats. 5 yards per carry and 100 yards for every 20 carries. And at 6’2" 250, we may have a beast here.
Brownie's Year - March 14, 2010
i agree
rockybrown - March 14, 2010
yeah…you can criticize last year, but he got buried in the depth chart. He got PT in ’08 b/c of that rash of injuries to the broncos RBs and he played well. He was also a rookie that season too which makes it more impressive.
In 2009, the Broncos drafted a RB in the first round. obviously this RB is going to get a lot of carries and he did. Then they got 2 veteran backup RBs in Lamont Jordan and Corell Buckhalter. Buckhalter and Jordan played a lot and pushed Hillis out of the RB rotation. he didn’t get as many touches b/c he played primarily at FB. the year before, he played some at HB too. he can play both and is in a way a poor man’s LeRon McClain.
bross09 - March 14, 2010
You realize you are just saying the same thing twice, right? I mean you really just repeated your first statement with your second.
APV - March 15, 2010
Did you know he also runs for 200 yards every 40 carries? And 1000 yards every 200 carries?
Buckeye Brad - March 15, 2010
Rec’d
golanbatrac - March 15, 2010
What if he carries the ball 500 times?
Bernie19Kosar - March 15, 2010
If he carries the ball 1801 times how many yards would that be Vegeta? IT"S OVER 9000!!!!!!!
North Coast Flea - March 15, 2010
jaws. - March 15, 2010
I thought of that after I posted this.
North Coast Flea - March 16, 2010
wow, I was hammered last night.
And in all fairness, you repeated yourself twice too.
Brownie's Year - March 15, 2010
Probably part of the joke.
Villeslgr - March 15, 2010
After all, I am the DBN idiot. Am I not? lol
Brownie's Year - March 15, 2010
One of ’em.
golanbatrac - March 15, 2010
Now I feel better.
Brownie's Year - March 15, 2010
Ouch.
emily522 - March 15, 2010
along with me.
bross09 - March 15, 2010
I’m pretty sure I’m on that list too.
North Coast Flea - March 16, 2010
From the comments section at Mile High Report:
golanbatrac - March 14, 2010
You said yourself golan…don’t let that stop you.
Roger Dorn - March 14, 2010
REEEEC
Brownie's Year - March 14, 2010
just because there’s a goalie doesn’t mean you can’t score
notthatnoise - March 14, 2010
I rec this everytime I see it.
gahnki - March 15, 2010
I may have my new favorite Browns player.
Bernie19Kosar - March 14, 2010
She’s not all that bad. The 8 kids would give me pause though.
Villeslgr - March 14, 2010
Peyton Hillis is my new hero. Pasting over the Troy Smith poster on my wall.
jaws. - March 14, 2010
Don’t get too excited.
Villeslgr - March 14, 2010
??
bross09 - March 14, 2010
It was a bad joke. Above is Josh and his wife, when I saw her I thought Kate, so I posted that, Jaws got excited and i felt i needed to tell him the first picture was a joke.
Villeslgr - March 14, 2010
I wasn’t excited about the picture, I was excited about Peyton Hillis trying to pork Josh McDaniel’s wife and getting traded for it. Hell with the Broncos.
jaws. - March 15, 2010
aahh i see
Villeslgr - March 15, 2010
What? Did this thing actually happen?
bross09 - March 15, 2010
oh…now I get it..I was like, is McDaniels dating Kate Goesselin Now???
bross09 - March 15, 2010
That’s what I was thinking too, I could even feel the three ?s floating above my head.
North Coast Flea - March 15, 2010
And the Donte Whitner pic remains on your bathroom sink.
Brownie's Year - March 14, 2010
Yeah it stays, until the browns get a strong safety at least.
jaws. - March 14, 2010
golanbatrac - March 14, 2010
these are the kind of comments that win championships. rec.
Dawg Nuts - March 14, 2010
God, those people are nuts.
emily522 - March 14, 2010
now i wish we didnt draft him number 3 overall. him and tim couch two worst qbs since the browns came back
Lancers25 - March 14, 2010
meant to glad we didnt draft him 3rd overall
Lancers25 - March 14, 2010
Mooncamping is behind this. I’m sure of it.
gahnki - March 14, 2010
I can just see Mooncamping and Mike Holmgren laughing in their office now.
Bernie19Kosar - March 14, 2010
I told you he is randy learner!
jaws. - March 14, 2010
lol, beauty rumor
rockybrown - March 14, 2010
I think he’s really Tom Heckert.
North Coast Flea - March 14, 2010
Hahaha.
emily522 - March 14, 2010
soon we will have all the old seahawks in here
Lancers25 - March 14, 2010
And the Raiders will have all of our washed up players, I’m actually surprised they weren’t the team we traded BG to.
North Coast Flea - March 14, 2010
BQ
North Coast Flea - March 14, 2010
hank fraley signed with the rams
rockybrown - March 14, 2010
im guessing the raiders gave up a high pick
Lancers25 - March 14, 2010
Another link on BQ’s trade, with a quote from Mangini, at http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Brady-Quinn-traded-to-Broncos.html
RelapsingDawgCatcher - March 14, 2010
I agree with Mangini. Quinn did have heart.
Brownie's Year - March 14, 2010
yes, he tried as hard as you could ask for and had a great attitude, i wish him luck
rockybrown - March 14, 2010
So did Rudy.
North Coast Flea - March 14, 2010
We killed the server for a bit there.
golanbatrac - March 14, 2010
It wasn’t just DBN. All the SBN sites were down.
gahnki - March 14, 2010
Ok, I’m addicted to this quarterback market-swap. What can we get for Raitliff?
gahnki - March 14, 2010
an open roster spot.
jaws. - March 14, 2010
This made me laugh, and somewhere Mooncamping is crying.
North Coast Flea - March 14, 2010
I think it’ll be offset by the fact that we traded for a fullback
notthatnoise - March 14, 2010
Roger Dorn - March 14, 2010
i like that, if he starts we get a 3rd or a 4th. good front office move putting conditions on that
rockybrown - March 14, 2010
Mile High Report is blowing up about how they stole Quinn from us. I even read a Tom Brady reference… i’m not kidding
rockybrown - March 14, 2010
It’s funny because I had been reading their site and most of them were saying they didn’t want Quinn. Denver fans can be a little delusional from my experience.
Roger Dorn - March 14, 2010
you gotta check it out now
rockybrown - March 14, 2010
Interesting reading. I’m laughing right now at the gentlemen there trying to evaluate BQ by ignoring his whole stint with us and going back to his days at ND!
I could chime in. Nah, I’ll let them have their optimism.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - March 14, 2010
A lot said they would give up a late round pick for him.
emily522 - March 14, 2010
they said they probably wouldn’t take him for a 5th…we got a 6th (granted in a year), Hillis, and a conditional in 2012. I would say that is more than a 5th.
bross09 - March 14, 2010
Sure signs that this trade is a win for us.
Spidey - March 14, 2010 via mobile
That’s funny- I believe we stole Peyton Hillis from them.
gahnki - March 14, 2010
I laughed out loud and had to try and explain why to a room full of nerds and stoners who couldn’t care less about football, but it was worth it.
notthatnoise - March 14, 2010
Where were you in a room full of nerds and stoners?
gahnki - March 14, 2010
I hope you're not referring to MHR, friend.
Zogernaut - March 14, 2010
He’s not.
Roger Dorn - March 14, 2010
Cool, cool.
Thanks for clarifying
Zogernaut - March 14, 2010
Uh oh, Blog Wars.
Villeslgr - March 14, 2010
case western reserve university
notthatnoise - March 15, 2010
You will never be my doctor.
SpecialBrownie - March 15, 2010
With a name like SpecialBrownie, really?
North Coast Flea - March 15, 2010
no worries, I’m an astronomy major
notthatnoise - March 17, 2010
I was going to be, I loved learning about the universe. Still do. There was just too much physics in it though
SpecialBrownie - March 17, 2010
I love it. even the physics. the math can get kind of intense, but for the most part astronomy is simple motion physics, and the thermo/particle stuff isn’t as common.
notthatnoise - March 17, 2010
If you discover a planet, please, for the love of all that is holy, name it after Joe Thomas.
SpecialBrownie - March 17, 2010
You mean for the love of Joe Thomas?
North Coast Flea - March 17, 2010
rec
Brownie's Year - March 17, 2010
this might not be as far fetched as you think, I might be working with a professor this summer who’s work is centered on discovering extra-solar planets.
notthatnoise - March 19, 2010
You have my respect more than any other on here.
Dawkins, Sagan, Jastrow, and others. Far more important than the Browns will ever be.
Brownie's Year - March 17, 2010
how dare you.
Dawg Nuts - March 18, 2010
Carl Sagan is the man, but I think I’m most amazed by what Kepler was able to accomplish.
notthatnoise - March 19, 2010
Sagan….. enough said.
Brownie's Year - March 20, 2010
Fascinating
Brownie's Year - March 20, 2010
For the lack of technology, and what they were able to do, the Mayans were the most advanced astronomers ever. (imo)
North Coast Flea - March 19, 2010
great, now you’ll know everything you need to know about uranus.
Dawg Nuts - March 18, 2010
How is this not green?
golanbatrac - March 19, 2010
Some people around here are too anal?
RelapsingDawgCatcher - March 19, 2010
Rec’d for hilarity.
golanbatrac - March 19, 2010
this is cutting edge material we’re producing, RDC.
Dawg Nuts - March 19, 2010
I’m easy with the rec’s today.
golanbatrac - March 19, 2010
Scraping edge, more like.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - March 20, 2010
Dawgs By Nature: The perfect blend of intellectualism and toiler-humor.
gahnki - March 19, 2010
DBN: No height too high, no depth too low!
RelapsingDawgCatcher - March 20, 2010
Slow your roll, nrother...
It wasn’t a “Brady Quinn is the next Tom Brady” comment. It was a simple joke about how we have 2 QBs on the roster, Tom Brandstater and Brady Quinn, and that Coach McD can make the ultimate Tom Brady clone. That’s it.
Anyhow, this is a great day for your team, Browns fans. Although you lose your home-town hero in Quinn, you gain a helluva RB in Hillis. He was a fan favorite, and left alot of Broncos Country in shock when he didn’t play last year. For whatever reason, Coach didn’t see what the fans saw, and now he is all yours. I can say this with conviction…Peyton Hillis will be a great back for the Browns. He might remind some of you of a player from the Browns heydey, Ernest Byner. Tough, between the tackles bruiser, and has some giddyup.
We do hope Quinn can be coached up by McD and Co. I did like him coming out of ND, and when the whole McJayGate deal went down last year, I was hoping for BQ. Time will tell, I guess.
I hope my comment isn’t deemed trollish. I just wanted to set that little remark straight. Good luck Brownies!
Zogernaut - March 14, 2010
OK, I don't know what "nrother" is. Please ignore that typo.
Zogernaut - March 14, 2010
You lost me at
Brownie's Year - March 14, 2010
Wheeeeee!
This. is. AWESOME!
Spidey - March 14, 2010 via mobile
to me, this makes it almost a lock that we:
1. hang our hats on delhomme for a couple of years, or
2. trade up for sam bradford, and delhomme plays until bradford is ready.
anyone agree?
Dawg Nuts - March 14, 2010
or draft a qb in round 2 or 3.
Roger Dorn - March 14, 2010
More likely given Holmgren’s track record. He’s only used a 1st once on a QB, and that was via trade.
golanbatrac - March 14, 2010
Yeah. No way they sign Jake the Crepe and still not grab a new QB.
Brownie's Year - March 14, 2010
This.
emily522 - March 14, 2010
I actually think this is good for all involved, except for Kyle Orton. Though I wish we could have gotten a higher guaranteed pick, we still picked up 2 draft picks and a potential contributor at running back. Brady gets a chance for another team far away from the local boy drama he has endured and Denver gets a QB who could possibly challenge Orton.
All Orton gets is another QB competition. Orton has to have had one of the most stressful NFL QB careers.
All that said, it’s key we hit on our next “Future” QB after officially starting over at that position for the 20th time.
Villeslgr - March 14, 2010
Anyone interested, here is the front page thread on both the Quinn and Wimbley deal:
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2010/3/14/1372791/cleveland-browns-massive-overhaul
Chris Pokorny - March 14, 2010
I find this funny though after all the BQ for Cutler rumors last year.
North Coast Flea - March 14, 2010
Im fron milehighreport
we taded hillis a guy that doesnt fit our system and a few picks that dont equal anything. Hillis will do great for you guys. The tom braey reference was the mixture of two QBs names, so dont get excited. Holgrem is just tring to change the land scape of your team, and he knows that he doesnt have to much to work with since they already traded away the good players.
jerry251 - March 14, 2010
Ummm… The good players are still on the team.
golanbatrac - March 14, 2010
this makes no sense.
Dawg Nuts - March 14, 2010
TRSS is going to love it over there
SpecialBrownie - March 14, 2010
You failed
Brownie's Year - March 14, 2010
well…I went on Mile High report a week or so ago and there were many people opposed to giving up a FIFTH for Quinn…now everyone over there from what I am hearing are applauding the deal. Hillis is a good player and can fit a system if the people make an effort to fit him.
bross09 - March 14, 2010
WHO?
no winslow or edwards, oh i for got you got a kick returner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
jerry251 - March 14, 2010
They have computers at the vocational school? Good for you!
golanbatrac - March 14, 2010
Alas, no English instructors though.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - March 14, 2010
F U
jerry251 - March 14, 2010
Stay classy, Denver fans.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - March 14, 2010
He doesn't speak for all Denver fans
Please excuse our trash…
Zogernaut - March 14, 2010
Appreciated. I think we’re looking forward to having Hillis aboard, and we wish BQ the best over there!
RelapsingDawgCatcher - March 15, 2010
loser
Brownie's Year - March 14, 2010
if you want to avoid the problem in the future, spell check your responses to not make them look like third grade material
and do all people on the Mile high report forget to ever put apostrophe’s on words or is that just you…
bross09 - March 14, 2010
The plural form of apostrophe doesn’t require an apostrophe.
golanbatrac - March 14, 2010
I didn’t know apostrophes could possess items.
SpecialBrownie - March 14, 2010
It’s not the Devil! It’s apostrophes!
Villeslgr - March 14, 2010
yeah. I realized that afterwards that I made it posessive…but the word apostrophe I wrote owns every apostrophe.
bross09 - March 15, 2010
what is the random, misplaced 11 all about? is it secret code for AA?
Dawg Nuts - March 14, 2010
Remember: When trolling, always make sure you’re not an idiot.
SpecialBrownie - March 14, 2010
he clearly failed at this.
Dawg Nuts - March 14, 2010
yes…always a good tip…and try to actually know how to spell.
bross09 - March 14, 2010
A troll who isn’t an idiot is like a fat anorexic, it will never happen.
North Coast Flea - March 15, 2010
What do the Dawg pound think of the Wimbely trade?
S-n-B4life - March 14, 2010
What does the dawg pound think of the Wimbley trade sounds better!
S-n-B4life - March 14, 2010
3rd round pick, eh. But not that sad to see Kam go, he was adequate.
Roger Dorn - March 14, 2010
Thanks for the 3rd rounder.
Brownie's Year - March 14, 2010
Not a bad deal. I liked wimbley but he was too much of an underachiever.
I think both teams got a good deal. I have heard that the raiders have been looking for a pass rusher.
I also think that early third round is about as much as the browns could get for wimbley. he had a solid season but was highly inconsistent and was not effective rushing the passer by the end of the season.
Oakland got a decent deal, just in the fact that you didn’t get completely hosed.
bross09 - March 14, 2010
St. Mangenius is getting a lot of mileage out of his word processing template this year:
"I appreciate everything <player’s first name> did for us last year and in his seasons with the Cleveland Browns," ". I wish him the best of success in ."
tribe71 - March 14, 2010
the forum software didn’t like my template delimiters – ha!
Let’s try again,,,
"I appreciate everything (player’s first name) did for us last year and in his (number of) seasons with the Cleveland Browns," "(optional random work ethic praise). I wish him the best of success in (new team)."
tribe71 - March 14, 2010
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