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Cleveland Browns vs. Cincinnati Bengals - Official Game Thread (Part II)

The passing game has been a little funner to watch under quarterback Colt McCoy, but the offense only put a touchdown on the board in the first half. The Browns' defense has struggled against Cincinnati's running game, but the Bengals only have a three-point advantage. Will the Browns be able to overcome their 10-7 deficit in the second half?

 

 

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Game: Cleveland Browns vs. Cincinnati Bengals
Date/Time: Sunday, December 19, 2010 at 1:00 p.m. EST
Local Television: WOIO/CBS, Channel 19 (Cleveland)
Announcers: Don Criqui & Steve Beuerlein

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defense gotta step it up. you can’t make cedric benson look that good

The defense has been on the field way too long. And this time, it’s not the offenses fault. Hopefully things turn around here in the second.

Stream on FirstRow appears to have been cut. Anyone know of another?

Try reloading now that the second has started.

I’ve been looking to the ‘Connecting to Channel’ ever since halftime show was over. Any suggestions?

Even Dawson’s kick offs are awful.

Is the wind super strong or something? We didn’t go for the Dawson FG earlier, and his kickoffs are very low and short.

The Bengals’ kickoffs have been short too.

6 mph was the last I heard. it might have gotten worse since then, though

Isn’t it pretty cold there?

Sweet more bad tackling

It’s back on? I’m out.

Haden is looking pretty bad so far

“Couldn’t have missed that ball if he wanted to, it was so perfectly thrown.”

Who the hell says that, seriously?

was he talking about carson’s pass just now? that was ball hung badly

Why can’t we do that?

Pass pro not as good, WR routes not as good …

No WRs and an under-performing offensive line are not helping.

Also, our coverage has lacked a bit.

maybe

the zebras are gonna call holding in the secnd half on Cincy

Thank you, TJ.

We are going to win this game.

Third and long beat us again.

Announcers are pretty bad. I’ve noticed all season long that Cleveland is getting some bad announcers.

Why does Eric Wright always look so lackadaisical when he is out there before the snap?

I wouldn’t care if he performed after the snap.

Nice breakup by ward

13 Unanswered points

Come on Browns and Colt….a td is needed…badly

I’ll stick with my pregame prediction:

Browns 27, Bungles 13

yup. still a chance for a second half explosion. remember bengals vs. bills?

Bengals vs Saints…Bengals vs Buccaneers??

Cribs just isn’t getting good blocks here.

Im really starting to think that our success early in season was similar to ‘07. No one had footage on DA, and didnt give us half a thought. Since we beat the Saints and Patriots, people are checking up, and shutting down Hillis. We’ve got to do more offensively. Daboll gone, McDaniels in?

You’re forgetting the change that occurred at QB and RT after those games against the Saints and Patriots.

I’m starting to feel like RT is as much a priority for us as WR.

Who started the year for us, Pashos or Womack? They’ll be back and Luvao will be better?

anyone but St Clair

Why don’t they let him sit?

We need a returner.

What’s the deal today? I just tuned in and took a quick look at the stats for McCoy… It looks like he’s been accurate but has a low YPC. Has Daboll been doing his usual sissy play calling? Maybe we can try challenging his arm a little bit?

he has, they’ve been incomplete.

We have thrown deep but the recs usually weren’t open and the balls were usually underthrown

Can we try some outside runs?

Well…how about something other than up the middle

Why the f*ck do they keep comparing to his Big 12 play? I hate these guys so damn much!

How many of the last 4 games do we win this year? Do we really feel better about the team this year?

Is this a serious question?!?!?!

Including todays game, there are only 3 games left.

Bengals 41, Browns 7

LOL

looks like handwriting is on the wall…Bengals playing today…browns -not

We can blame Cribb’s injury for our poor returns, but what is up with our kick and punt coverage?

This is f$&@ing disgusting.

Only Houston can make this Sunday just barely bearable now.

Did he just say 9:17 left to go in third quarter???

We should consider Haden for the kickoff here for a spark.

That would be a good changeup

That or … 10,000 gigawatts!

I would, and I may be Josh’s biggest fan.

Cincy O line is killing us. Mr. Ryan, tear down that wall.

Hillis? 27 yards. No rushing game.

Really need more than a 3 and out here

Good clock management.

I was never fond of wasting timeouts in the third quarter.

Hillis breaks one

Funny to also hear the crowd erupt for the Browns. We travel far better to Cinci, than they do to Cleveland.

Time for play action.

That works great too!

Hillis doin’ work!

Now we’re coming alive…

First and goal – now what? Pound it or play action?

we get 3 plays

I’m not opposed to trying that 4 strait play action strategy.

that was the play against pittsburgh

Solid end to the half, hopefully we can punch it in right at the start of the fourth. I’d hate to waste three plays of clock only to settle for three.

Love the coaching decision to run up and get one more rush play off before the third quarter ended too. That’s what I always advocate but never see from teams who are down multiple possessions.

Hikkkis is Beast.

Why are you calling him that? is he racialist?

Raciakist actuakky.

violent racism is always good for a laugh

thats the first rule of comedy

I should have stayed in bed.

its okay. the best players still perform on their off days.

I wouldnt even want to remember every day of my life.

Shoot, they didn’t get it in the third quarter? :-/

yeah, how was that not a 1st down?

Checked the replay just now, his behind was on the ground shy of the marker.

Shit I thought it was 1st and goal?

Me too. So much for the new glasses.

This is a must go in my opinion, oh well.

No take the points and hope the defense wakes up too

it’s a 1 score game now. no gripes from me.

Closing to within six early in the fourth is okay by me, but we gotta get some defense here.

yup. gotta focus on ced ben

They’ve nearly done their time on the pitch already. We get murdered on time of posession every game.

Browns 17, Bungles 16

remember that show “The Early Edition?”

take the 3 points bruh

SH**!!!TT my stream is dead!

Ugh – its back. Missed the end of the last series dammit.

wright is down. there goes the season.

We can survive losing Wright, but we really need Rubin to stay on the field.

You hear proud they were that they new a Browns’ player’s name and corresponding number?

Fingers crossed. Hope it’s a bad one!

lol that’s horrible

Well there ya go, that looked nasty.

I am not having flashbacks of Buffalo. I am not having flashbacks of Buffalo. I am not having flashbacks of Buffalo….

at least we still hav st clair

Very creative – run Hillis up the middle right on third down deep in the red zone.
Who’d have ever guessed?

Is Sheldon Brown active for this game?

define “active”

Not injured, able to get snaps.

you mean shnapps?

Yeah, he’s active. Just made a nice break up right there.

they say that breaking up is hard to do

Bengals 30, Browns 10

They are still the Bungles.

Well, that was unpleasant.

Defense? Anyone?

the sky, clearly, is falling.

the browns need to force a FG and bring in shaun rogers to block it

and then run it back and get the 2pt conversion

Can I predict a pick in the end zone?

God damn it, why the f*ck would they take out Cedric Benson?

flag

If we are going to allow yards, I want it through only one of their players, that would be Benson.

Don’t get me wrong, if I could press a button before this game that would cause Benson to fumble five times and gain no yards, I’d have pressed it even with him starting on my fantasy team.

But I don’t have that damn button.

fantasy?

Yes. Playoffs, $ league.

oh. i have him but didnt use him.

let colt mccoy take over the game. score a TD and let the defense have a good, long rest. come back and win.

criqui needs to retire…. he called palmer peyton manning

These announcers are so lame they dont even correct their mistakes. Criqui on a offensive 5 yard penalty says it is 1st and five and no one in the trailer bothers to correct him. Buerlein says Stuckey never gets yardage after the catch. That is the only yardage he ever gets…duh

So does today’s defensive performance calm the Ryan HC talk?

YES Ryan was outcoached badly today

put benard back on kickoffs from now on.

For real. That was better than any return Cribbs has given us in weeks.

MY heart just stopped.

And now it has sunk.

What the hell happened to our o-line? I guess we never had the right side.

What o-line?

Why do we suck all of the sudden?

punting it is practically giving the bengals points

Ha, so is going for it. We are not very good.

i’m not questioning the decision to punt or anything, just saying how bad the defense has been so far

the best thing that gets us is hodges to the pro bowl

Can we please try Womack at RT and Lauvao at RG?

yeah. st. claire is a bum, and the o-line did pretty well with that setup

Can we try anyone at RT other than St. Clair?

How bad is Lauvao if they don’t have the confidence to bring him out though?

Yeah but i had that rationale about Colt earlier this season too, so meh.

I think maybe Mangini is losing his job right . . . . NOW.

New poll: How many repeats of the Buffalo game will it take to cost Mangini his job?

I wouldn’t make the call myself, but you could be right.

i dont want mangini to go :c

OK we do need a RT more than anything else.

You heard it here last.

The offense isn’t a surprise, but this D is terrible.

1st rd: Julio 2nd rd: RT

i was thinking the same thing.

Still need someone to throw to.

honestly, this defense looks worse today than any other game this season. maybe I’m overreacting.

No. You are not.

You’re spot on.

This is the Bungles. Palmer throws Delhommes vs. most other defenses. We make him look like a reasonable starting QB in the NFL. That’s just sad.

Damn it, put in Benson for f***s sake.

both lines are getting slaughtered.

A stop?!

A day late and a dollar short.

This team hasn’t showed up at all the last 2 weeks. I really not sure what all the Mangini fans are seeing here

So if this performance means the end for Mangini, who is the vote for HC? Gruden for me.

Tony Dungy, not that he would come here. Maybe Jon Harbaugh?

Dungy is a twat.

No actually you are

How very clever of you.

I’m with golan on Dungy.

You’re right, he just turned the worst team of all time into a SB contender and won a SB for the Colts. He mentors troubled youth and behaves classy all the time – what a twat. Compared to a cynical prick who lives in his mom’s basement? sure

Compared to a cynical prick who lives in his mom’s basement?

Irony of the day!

Not sure you know what that word means

who is this “worst team of all time?”

The Bucs

thats a gross exaggeration. Especially if you look at the fact that the team was at least somewhat respectable at times the 2 years before Dungy got there. I will take the Sam Wyche led Bucs over the Millen era Lions any day of the week.

No. they weren’t. stop being a tool and talking about things you know nothing about.

look, if you want to add something to the discussion or try to back up your point, great. otherwise, you need to stop posting.

please don’t resort to insults. that doesn’t do you any good.

years with 3 wins or less: Detroit 4/8. Tampa 0/4

years with 5 wins or less: Detroit 6/8. Tampa 2/4

Overall Winning % Detroit: 25. Tampa 36.

Now look at all of the history of the Tampa Franchise: 31%.

Even if you take one of the top 5 worst franchises between 1970-1990, they are still worlds better than the crap that Matt Millen created.

Tampa Press asks the coach(my mind is going. John ____ from USC) “What do you think of your teams execution today?” He answers “I’m all for it” Best line ever in football

for real? wait two more games.

Wait for what? We don’t beat the teams we should beat. End of story

but we also beat teams we shouldn’t. don’t judge a coach until you see the body of work.

All our coaches have beaten teams they shouldn’t have. I think we’ve seen the body of work and I just don’t see Mangini taking a team to the SB ever being as stubborn as he is

Ok really? How has he been stubborn? do you have any actual examples?

well I think you made that clear when we were winning and playing close against good teams HenryDawg…so you have a predisposition for this thought so I will just ignore you on this.

I really want Mangini to stay, i don’t know that Holmgren sees it the same way as me though. I think that this performance along with last weeks may be too much to overlook.

I really want Mangini to stay, i don’t know that Holmgren sees it the same way as me though. I think that this performance along with last weeks may be too much to overlook.

Yikes. Sorry for the double post.

why? because they’re the most recent performances? why are these games weighted more heavily than the Patriots and Saints and Jets?

often the end of the season gets significantly more weight than the beginning…its a “what have you done for me lately” phenomenon.

I just think when you look at the season as a whole it’s easy to see why we’ve looked bad lately. Mainly, injuries and poor QB play.

today had nothing really to do with poor QB play.

but a lot to do with injuries.

yeah, I’ll give you that one.

Every team has injuries. Good teams plug in new players, bad teams cry about it.

you’re not gonna hurt yourself tonight, are you?

you are insufferable.

good teams have depth, bad teams don’t. how is it the coaches fault that we don’t have depth?

Really? who Quarterbacked the Steelers when Rothlisberger was out? Is that depth? Is Danny Woodhead, Benjarvus Greenellis and Julian Edelman depth?

yes. that is actually quality depth and the ability to find solid players in later rounds and as UDFAs.

they started Dennis Dixon when he was gone who was a steal in the 5th round, because he was coming off injury and was from a Spread O (but its a great steal for a project QB). the guy was a Heisman Finalist and they got him in the 5th. That is good drafting, not some coaching thing.

these FOs build depth from top to bottom and we just aren’t there yet.

…and its not like the Steelers or the Pats don’t have injuries. the Steelers lost Aaron smith who has an impact similar to fujita has had here (maybe not as much, but a lot) and he has been out since week 7. Plus around a dozen other missed starts by starters (including Brett Kiesel being injured at the same time smith is).

those are four great examples of depth. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here.

I agree, and I think holmgren will take these things into consideration.

You absolutely have to take the good with the bad, but I can see how it could be viewed as our team playing inconsistently between those games and these games.

but there are reasons beyond coaching for those inconsistencies.

I agree with you, and I really hope that Holmgren sees it this way too. My original post was that “if these last two weeks mean the end for Mangini.” I guess I’ll just call it a gut feeling that these recent performances will spell out bad things for Mangini.

Because these were games to build on for next season.

Really, although I’m depressed too.

I don’t think Mangini will lose his job this year no matter what. I think our defense misses Fujita desperately. Ever since he got hurt they’ve struggled repeatedly.

Lombardi. He comes with a trophy.

The sky is like totally staying right where it is.

Hey everyone! I’m in Cleveland right now watching the game now. Sucks we’re going to lose… (Oh! Nice throw by McCoy there!). I missed the opening TD though :(. At least he looks good.

I wonder what this loss means for Mangini’s job security.

ROBISKIE FIRST NFL TOUCHDOWN!!!!

It’s not ever yet.

Well I have hope now haha. Nice throw. I love Colt.

Welcome to the thread.

YES! And the crowed cheers!!!!11

time for an onside kick

Watson the former Bengal hahaha!

holy balls that was cool

Awwwwww so close!

all it takes is one 1st down for the bengals to win. time for the D to shine

I should have gone with my gut feeling and started McCoy over Bradford. Also, I didn’t start Mario Manningham.

Really need a Bengals fumble here.

but you can’t miss tackles going for the strip, either. kinda in a bind here

Maybe they fumble the snap or handoff? I’m grasping at straws here cuz I know the D isn’t going to hold

hey, it’s 3rd and 3. there is still hope.

Moment of truth here…

Come on defense, this is it.

This is why you don’t waste timeouts in the third quarter.

gonna need a measurement

Well this sucks. But honestly, even with the loss, I’m glad that Colt looked good today. The season’s lost, so I’m more concerned with player development at this point.

Just saw that opening TD pass… nice.

Alas, I think he looked lucky rather than good.

Meh. He did make some mistakes, but he had a lot of nice throws. I’ll take 76%, 243 yards, 9.7 Y/A, and 2 TDs.

Surely you jest.

no he didn’t. he looked pretty good. more good throws than bad ones; more good decisions than bad ones.

Yeah, I mean in the NFL it seems like every player, no matter how good, needs some luck to succeed, but overall Colt made some great throws. 243 yards in the air with no Ints makes me feel pretty good.

You are a ray of sunshine. Agree about Colt. Can’t figure out why we looked so flat today.

Ha, thanks. Trying to stay positive. The fact that we need a QB so badly and I think we have ours makes me feel a little better.

As it should. Baffled about where the rest of the team is failing, but that is a good thing.

I’m also happy about Colt, but this more than sucks. I want wins and this is a complete kick in the nuts. nothing like finishing the season with a crash and burn. complete opposite of last season.

complete opposite of last season.

This.

True, but I still feel better about this season than last season.

I was felling ashitload better about this season during the first coming of McCoy.

There’s been abit too much horror since then.

this one’s on the guys in the trenches. awful, just awful.

Yup.

We need Fujita back for our run D.

This. This. This.

Fujita has obviously massive.

D spent 38 minutes on the field, and they’re not young either. I think they had no chance of stopping the run in Q4.

I can’t believe we got beat by Cedric Benson…

Benson I’m not surprised about, I’m surprised we allowed Carson sucksballs Palmer throw for 200+ yards and a 90 qb rating.

i think the onside was a bad decision

Onside or not doesn’t matter if you can’t force three and out.

i don’t think so. the browns hadn’t been stopping the run all game, you would give yourself a better chance to win with an onside kick IMO

i hate that commercial.

If you have a long losing streak, invite the Browns to your party.

19/25 243 yds 2 td 0 Int. The sky is not falling. Its a frustrating and annoying loss, but Colt played well.

Well I’m going to the mall with a friend. I’ll be in the game thread next week. Bye, guys!

Get us a printer would you?

I feel like sitting on the sofa and sobbing rather than going out.

Enjoy, hoping for better results next week!

Thhe Browns have been flat and emotionless the last 2 weeks.

And watching them has left me feeling the same.

Watching them has left me drunk

that explains a lot.

yep. Are we playing for draft now or what? I liked how we had a nice drive at the end, but why the hell didnt we attempt those throws in the 2nd quarter?? I’m tired of watching a team only doing what they have to do when they have to do it.

Can they get up for Pitt and Balt? Or have they packed it in for the season?

Its hard telling.After watching the last few weeks, I’d be surprised if we even compete in those games. If Pitt or Bal played against our defense from today, there goes that 30+ pts a game streak.

This question will decide Mangini’s fate.

His fate may already be decided. Win against Carolina due to technicality(sucky kicker), lose to Buffalo, Cincinnati. Not to count all the other close games that we lost.

the technicality was the fact that we were almost shafted on a bad call…but thats moot now.

Buffalo is a much better team than people realize. they took Pitt to OT and have an extremely tough SoS, so it shouldn’t be a shock to lose to them on the road.

This game we were competitive, but we DID play a divisional game on the road and divisional games are often closer than they should be.

We lost close games against good teams. Those games outside of the ones you mentioned where we lost by 1 score or less, the teams have a combined record of 44-25, and over a 16 game season, the average team is better than 10-6. I would say that losing a handful of games to playoff caliber teams by a score or less is nothing to scoff at.

Go Jacksonville!

Well damn.

lmao onside return for td…….

It’s pretty obvious this team can beat passing teams like the Saints and Pats with exotic defenses and blitzes but we have been hopeless against running teams all year long.

this is just all sorts of wrong.

Cincy is a passing team; 30th in both yards and ypc. I don’t know how you are getting that they are some great team from this. we just sucked today on D.

Do actually watch football?

yes I do. Cedric Benson has sucked. Cincy is not a particularly great passing team, but they rank above 30th in yards and yards per carry. They ARE a passing team, because of the breakdown of plays. they are 4th in attempts. that makes them a passing team. end of story.

I hope the Jets effing ANNIHILATE the Squealers. Not that I want the Ravens to win the division, but right now I’d enjoy that.

absolutely. take something positive out of today.

wow.. Eagles won

The Maggot

Its time to fire the maggot Mangini and his butt buddy Dabol, no need to wait till the end of the season,hell a high school coaching staff could out coach the friggin morons the Browns have for coaches

Perhaps you’d like to make these ever so intelligent comments over at cleveland.com?

Oh wow.

Golan’s early prediction may have just been cemented.

Which one?

That this would be the worst game thread ever.

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