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Carolina Panthers vs. Cleveland Browns - Official Game Thread (Part II)

Hopefully Jake Delhomme can hold on to the Browns' halftime lead.

 

 

VS.

Game: Carolina Panthers vs. Cleveland Browns
Date/Time: Sunday, November 28, 2010 at 1:00 p.m. EST
Local Television: WJW/FOX, Channel 8 (Cleveland)
Announcers: Chris Rose & Torry Holt

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So a challenge and we’re already against the ropes.

This is going to get overturned.

Wait. You can review penalties? Since when?

That turnover by Moore is looking even worse right now.

That was an ugly looking play. It had fumble or int written all over it.

What is the challenge?

That the receiver stepped out of bounds and came back in.

That Lafell didn’t go out of bounds.

That he didn’t step out of bounds.

That he never went OoB, this is the first time I’ve ever seen a penalty challenged.

Throw bottles on the field?

hehe, I remember that game. We were right.

This is what I thought of too.

Looking pretty shaky. Can’t let Carolina comeback after having such a productive lead.

Did he have possession though? Looks like the ball is a little wobbly

We’re screwed.

In former Browns news: James Davis has 6 carries for 11 yards for Washington right now.

And thus far, he’s the leading rusher.

And McNabb’s the problem?

So yeah, it was 21-7 just a little bit ago…

I told someone that when Jake started throwing horrible picks while healthy I would change my opinion on starting him.

IMO he doesn’t have posession.

refs got it right, the ball wobbles out of control

LOL. Wonderful outcome.

Torry Holt shut up.

He’s a receiver he’s going to side with his peeps.

Right. Besides, I think he’s doing a pretty good job for geing his first game. He’s make some good observations about the game, which is what I want from an analyst.

That’s a relief.

How is Torry Holt failing to see that that ball hit the ground?

Because that other dude told him it was good.

Periea(sp?) is a douche. I’ve yet to agree with anything he’s said.

And that other dude was head of NFL referees. Good thing he’s retired now.

Haha, good outcome cuz now it goes to 4th down instead of 3rd.

MISS!

Thank God right now, Delhomme. Don’t screw up again.

Nice kick!

Fox’s face was hilarious when the ref said “however”.

Alright, we need to stop gettnig lucky and win with OUR PLAY.

Run ball down Panthers throat. Win game.

Less passes, more Hillis. Let’s get it done!

Make Browns’ fans happy.

Is there some sort of rule that Jeff Triplette has to officiate every browns home game?

Heck of an effort by that WR, but the refs got the call right. Fortunate to have a FG miss, but Kasay’s range isn’t that good anymore back there.

Ref: It’s a catch… SIKE!"

Let’s capitalize now.

Let’s capitalize now.

Let’s capitalize now.

OH GOD DAMNIT. FUCK MY LIFE.

FUCK YOU, DELHOMME.

Delhomme, get your ass off the field.

Jake Delhomme being Jake Delhomme.

NO MORE FUCKING PASSES!!!!! ARGH

Delhomme sucks.

We’re going to lose this game.

Thanks. Put Wallace in now!!!

This game should be a blowout for the Browns by now.
Time for Wallace.

Okay. I am now on the “Shitcan Jake” bandwagon.

longhorn fan here

so is colt now delhomme’s backup? or is mangini not a douche

he’s injured

yeah i know but if yall win does he justify it as so

what? he’s injured, he’s not playing cause he’s injured.

Colt is hurt, would have played if healthy.

He’s injured… please research before posting…

i realize that genius

its not like mangini gave senaca his job back

And maybe Wallace is still not 100% ever think of that? This is why you and I aren’t HC.

McCoy will start once he’s healthy again

I think that’s what you’re asking

Hope this settles it for once and for all. Delhomme should not play another down in Cleveland.

Delhomme f**king sucks. I was saying it all damn week.

Where’s all this bulls**t about him being healthy or some sh**?

Jesus christ. I saw this sh** coming.

THIS.

Put Wallace in. This is unbelievable. Two throws of the second half both picks.

We’re going to lose to a 1-9 team.

We haven’t lost yet.

No you didn’t.

I did.

The only upside is that we still win DESPITE Jake’s best efforts.

Up by 1. This is ridiculous. Two picks on two throws. He’s losing this game for us.

lol and theres my answer

That’s it. Fuck Delhomme, I’m off his damn wagon. The first INT went to his head and he got stupid.

He lost this game for us if we do lose.

………………………………..

Delhomme’s career is over. Thanks for mentoring colt though.

This is exactly what people were afraid of with Delhomme.

/raises hand

Put Wallace in. Run the damn ball.

I’m shocked. TWO THROWS. TWO PICKS.

I don’t understand how it’s possible to throw as many pick 6’s as he does.

How bad was the throw? Don’t have a feed here in Atlanta.

Awful. Completely awful.

behind the receiver, into coverage

I mean, just wow. Are you kidding me? I want him out.

Oh my god, this is unbelievable!

Anytime this piece of son of a b**ch is on the field he does far more to hurt the team than help.

Sh**ty **s quarterback.

Still not worried?

I’ll admit that I’m A LOT less worried that I SHOULD be.

I underestimated Daboll and Delhomme.

Well this game is going to shit in a hurry.

Mangini’s going to lose his job over this and it’s not fair.

If we lose this, he’s really screwed.

Hope he doesn’t. But if Delhomme plays another game, it will be.

If Mangini survives, at the very least fire Daboll.

Based on everything we’ve seen thus far, I will be seriously disappointed if Mangini loses his job this year.

All’s fair in love, war, and NFL coaching carousels.

hay guyz, lets just throw away the game

I don’t want delhomme even mentoring Colt. What is he going to show him? How to throw more picks then TDs.

The sky is falling.

HEY LOOK! WE’RE RUNNING THE FOOTBALL!

Wait. We have a running attack? I thight we were throwing into bad situations because we had to.

Ah, so the key to running the football is THROWING A PICK 6?!.

I want Daboll gone.

How was that Daboll’s fault? Seriously.

That we just now start running the ball? Um, it’s all his.

Worst analysis ever.

Oh right, right. So pass a lot until he throws a pick 6, then run it. And it’s not Daboll’s fault?

Even worse. Hole, shovel, dig.

Haha. That comment is ridiculous on so many levels.

Do you actually pay attention to the game or do you just make snarky comments every chance you get?

Are you just a jackass all the time?

Nice personal attack. I am now convinced by your analysis.

Glad you finally agree.

Not nearly as often as you are. At least I make sense with my comments.

What did Daboll do wrong? he’s never supposed to call passing plays again?

Mike Bell with positive yardage?

And Bell for positive yards?

Hillis should have about 50 carries by the end of thr day.

Hey a Mike Bell sighting!

OMG bell actualy gained yardage!

That was not supposed to be an end around.

I was holding my breath on that throw.

WHY THE HELL ARE THEY PASSING WITH THIS ASSHOLE MORE THAN RUNNING…..THIS IS COMPLETELY DABOLL’S FAULT!!!!

They can’t run every down. Relax.

3rd and 3. Run it

RUN. THE. BALL.

Oh goodness. That was the same route as last time…

Hai guys. Finally got the game on AM driving through PA. First play was the pick six. I blame myself. Go Browns.

It’s getting to the point when I hold my breath every time he drops back to pass

One winter day, a farmer Mike Holmgren found a snake Josh Delhomme by the roadside, stiff and motionless with cold.

“If you put me inside your shirt sign me to your team,” the snake Jake Delhomme said, “your body will make me warm I will be your quarterback and I won’t freeze to death.”

“Oh, I know your kind,” replied the Mike Holmgren. “If I pick you up, you will bite me throw interceptions.”

“Oh no,” the snake Jake Delhomme objected. “Why would I do such a thing, if you are good enough to help me?”

So the farmer Holmgren had compassion on the snake Delhomme, and taking it up, he put it inside his shirt signed him to the team. The warmth quickly revived the snake Delhomme, and resuming its natural instincts, it bit its benefactor threw interceptions, inflicting on him a mortal wound. “Oh,” cried the farmer Holmgren with his last breath, “why did you bite me? You promised you wouldn’t.”

“Ah,” said the snake Jake Delhomme . “So I did. But you knew I was a snake Jake Delhomme when you picked me up.”

6.7 YARDS PER CARRY

Those “Delhomme is good when healthy” people really got quiet.

haha, I am about to eat crow. Not yet though

I am a “Delhomme is good when holding a clipboard” Person

He shows the ability to be good. What we haven’t seen is if he can get the headcase/ball control issue for four quarters, which is what we’re seeing today.

“Ability” and “potential” are words best used to describe a one or two year player. Not a ten year guy who has been to the playoffs multiple times.

This is funny, I didn’t see much complaining about calling passing plays in the first half when we were moving the ball. Now that Delhomme has thrown two picks that means we’re not supposed to call any more passing plays for the rest of the game?

I’ll call bulls**t.

I was right there.

Sure you were.

I was hoping for 0 but I’ll take those 7 yards.

Before the picks.

Run the god damn ball for f**ks sake.

BEFORE THE PICKS.

We can march down the field without a problem as long as Daboll isn’t retarded.

.
How about this gem:

Every time Delhomme doesn’t hand the ball off I cringe.

Guess what? Before the f**king picks.

I don’t remember that.

You’re full of it.

All I said was I didn’t remember that. I’m sorry if I don’t remember every comment made by every person in the game thread. I guess that makes me “full of it.” Nice.

Just those four quotes of mine are in direct contradiction with what you are trying to say above, I’m sure there are some other too. Basically your first comment, which is blatantly false, makes you “full of it.”

Why are you so hostile all the time?

I said that I didn’t see much complaining. Maybe you were, but there wasn’t much by anyone else. That is “not much.” You can get all huffy and upset but that doesn’t mean I was wrong.

And the point is that an OC can’t call running plays all the time (or passing plays). We have to mix them both together.

I was hoping for 0 but I’ll take those 7 yards.
Run the god damn ball for f**ks sake.
We can march down the field without a problem as long as Daboll isn’t retarded.
Every time Delhomme doesn’t hand the ball off I cringe.

Funny that, every single comment quoted here came in the todays first half game thread… before the picks.

When you have a lead, run the ball. Football 101.

That’s fine, but you can’t run EVERY play.

I’m a Georgia Tech guy. Yes, you can. :-)

Seriously though, I see your point. Still.. 2 picks in 2 passes is a hard thing for a fan to let go of.

I’ve been saying the whole game run more.

And now that Delhomme has thrown to picks two throws in a row… um yeah. Run the ball more.

That’s fine, but people are complaining about passing on 2nd and long or 3rd and long. That’s crazy.

We should be running more than passing every game.

Don’t tell BB that, he’ll call you ridiculous.

Especially up 21-7

Right. But that doesn’t mean you should never throw.

I am fine with throwing, I just can’t believe our QB wouldn’t be more careful with a lead like that. Same thing in the Tampa game.

i agree completely. i’m talking about the people criticizing Daboll after every pass play.

actually, i have been screaming at the tv all day to run more….Delhomme wasn’t that good in the first half either

Typical Cleveland football. This sucks.

Oh Lord, Fox just showed the pick 6. That’s awful.

Why all of our QBs minus McCoy suck?

I thought Wallace was alright. I don’t hate Delhomme as a person, but as a player, it’s sad to see him struggle. I’ll support anyone in a Browns uniform.

I thought Seneca Wallace was serviceable in his games actually. Coaches trusted his arm a little too much for my liking, but I wouldn’t say he sucks.

We need a turnover now.

We are still winning. Defense has to step up. Let’s not panic

Up by 1. We’ve given 14 unanswered points. I’m panicking.

Why not panic? It’s another 1st half lead we are blowing.

Because we are winning. We need to outplay the other team at home the rest of the game to win this one. We can do it.

Kind of too late now. We had Hillis run for three tds and we only have a 1 point lead compliments of Delhomme and a bend but not breaking D.

Now, you are blaming our D?? What?

Seriously. Worst analysis ever.

panic, no! nervous, yes! my hand is hovering over the button though!!

Agree, but why not put Wallace in at this point?
Seems to me at this point Delhomme is a liability.

Wallace not back to full health yet?

Not according to what I’ve heard.

Last time we played a guy who wasn’t 100% at QB, Delhomme lost the game for us in Atlanta.

Jake’s healthy, just making mistakes. Seneca’s still hurt.

I thought Wallace was back to 100%, no?

Let’s get a stop now.

So I can’t even click the comment box without being directed to Facebook…

Complaining aside it’s time for a Safety.

We’re going to lose to Jimmy Clausen.

Nope

To Jake Delhomme?

I think we win this too if we put Wallace in the game

Seriously, if we can get the first half offense back on the field, fine. But this second half showing is nothing to write home about.

Let’s get a turnover, we need it.

Matt Roth bullrush. Nice.

I’ll take the sack.

Clausen really does remind me of Quinn.

Punt the ball. Thank God.

That was scary.

Ha, it looked like Roth barely touched him and Clausen sacked himself.

i dont think clausen could find his way out of a wet paper bag!!

wow, cribbs dropped quickly

We better run the ball on our 15 yard line or wherever. If I see Delhomme throwing it this deep in our territory…

Giants have tied it up with the Jags.

So, I’m just kind of numb now. No longer getting really excited or disappointed. Must be my Browns defense mechanism.

Why do we always suck when it’s a game we should win.

This is the first team we’ve played with a losing record this year. Really this is the first game we “should” win.

We really need a TD on this drive.

Oh yeah, this is also the second time this season the Panthers have scored 20 points.

Even though delhomme keeps sucking, who would you rather have DA, BQ, or delhomme?

Brady. I’ll take 35 checkdown passes and 50 rushes over what Jake’s given us.

Finally a hurdle.

And the Hillis Hop.

Ah, the pattented hillis hurdle!

I would not want to get in that man’s way.

Glad the Run O is always good.

Those hurdles are nice but I’m worried about him getting injured on one of those plays.

THIS

I’m totally okay with running it every down.

3rd and 6. We’re going to have to throw on this down.

Let’s go triple option the rest of this game. Where’s the toss/sweep?

good to see the clogged toilet offense coming in the second half……again

So wait a minute . . . first you were complaining about us throwing and how you’re complaining about us running? What are we supposed to do on offense that you won’t second-guess?

Some people are never happy.

I’m worried if Delhomme is scared to throw now, throwing it on the checkdown.

This is turning into the Jacksonville game.

Ok, we need to convert on third downs!

Idk if they’re showing up Holt, it’s more Delhomme self imploding.

Panthers 30, Browns 21

Always a good idea to throw short of the first on third down.

Panthers helps us out again finally.

RUNNING INTO THE PUNTER! FIRST DOWN!

The Panthers are really stupid.

running into the kicker!! first down

That should have been 15.

Yep. He bends down…

Hell yeah!!!

Needed that gift.

For once it’s the other team making stupid penalties. That should have been roughing.

Mike Bell where have you been all my life?

mike bell? positive yards?

Mike Bell with like 8 yards? What?

Comment on the 3rd quarter: BOOOOOOOO

That’s rare for Mike Bell.

bell? when did he decide to show up

We have got to get a TD off of this.

Bell picked up 8?!

Hahaha, Jake Delhomme is trending on Twitter. Pays to suck.

Hillis is too right? Also pays to not suck.

Wow, bell learned how to run the ball.

JUST ONE MORE QUARTER!

It’s been a really bad game either way.

Buffalo Bills…

That bad?

…might tie it in the fourth quarter.

Meanwhile, the so-called game of the week (Packers/Falcons) has been surprisingly pedestrian.

We can win this. If we score and stop turning it over we can do it!

Regroup and crush them! Someone tell Delhomme he doesn’t play for the Panthers anymore…..

Announcer just called him Killis haha.

One more score SHOULD ice this game for us.

Don’t scrw up delhomme!

At least Robo is clutch today.

Robiskie with a career day.

I love that career day means 5 for 34.

delhomme is having a career day too!!…… for the panthers!

Haha 34 yards is a career day?

Vickers is having a hell of a game.

If vickers could catch, he would be perfect.

Good fucking audible, Jake.

What the hell just happened?!

I think the TE was supposed to chip block there.

This small ball offense would be fine if we had more than 2 WRs on the field. I’d love to see us go to a two TE set as our base offense. It’s worked wonders for the Patriots after they let Randy Moss go.

We’re going to throw now.

Mike Bell whiffed on that block.

Go figure, a sack from the right.

How is that not PI?!

He sure made no attempt to play the ball.

It was good defense.

yeah he wasnt even looking at the ball..

We don’t know either Torry…

Go for it!

Tough call here, how far are we?

We’re on their 25.

I love that chain of comments^.

1 yard

Is Hillis banged up or just tired?

Hillis is hurt, kick it.

Hillis looks ran out.

Timeout might allow Hillis to regroup

I think that’s why we did it.

yep – I’m guessing that is the reason for the timeout.

He looks a little shaken to me, if he can go, do it

The Bills just tied the game with the Pittsburgh.

Hillis just needed a breather, got that with the timeout, GO FOR IT!

I don’t understand how we can topple the Pats and Saints, but look so puny against Jacksonville and Carolina.

One more mistake from us and we are done for.

Jacksonville is good

We haven’t lost to a bad team yet.

They aren’t bad teams, per se, but no comparison to New England and New Orleans.

We didn’t get it. Shit.

We didn’t get it fuck!

OMG. We didn’t get it.

WTF ARE YOU SERIOUS.

no go

He didn’t get it.

Oh well. It was a good call to go for it.

I would have kicked.

IMO it was the right call. 4th and 1 and you got Hillis.

4 pts, means Panthers have to score a TD to take the lead. They haven’t scored an offensive TD since the first possession.

Really hard to believe they couldn’t punch that one through with Hillis.

Mangini would have been crucified

For ensuring that a field goal wouldn’t win the game for Carolina? Nah. Especially with a tired/beat up Hillis.

Had to – definitely

inb4 the panthers win by a fg and everybody criticizes the decision to go for it there

I’ll criticize Delhomme for throwing 2 picks in a row before I blame that call.

Where the hell was VICKERS?!?!?!?

That was a bad spot. It was a lot closer than that. I don’t think he got it but it was close.

Our O-line got lit up on that play.

Glad we suck. Every single 2nd half of every single game. Never fails this season apparently.

We really need to force a turnover. If the Panthers take the lead, I don’t think we’re going to come back.

Yea, time for the D to take this game over

History agrees with you.

a new fockers movie?? haha

Looks horrible. They actually had to get Dustin Hoffman to come in and do some scenes after post-production to try and make it funnier.

This game is probably over. Thanks for screwing it up for us delhomme.

I wouldn’t be that confident, we are only up 1

heh, love the confidence. I still think we win too.

No, I’m saying Carolina will win. Thanks delhomme.

Your sarc meter seems to be working perfectly.

Yeah, ha my bad.

Still got the lead, at least….. for now.

Can we crown that false start with a sack please?

You called it.

Elam with another sack

3rd and 12. Come on!

This defense stinks.

Giants just took the lead. Good to see we’re not the only team blowing two score leads today.

Nobody gives up third and long the way we do.

This Browns defensive mechanism is working perfectly.

somebody want to tackle that guy?? for real!!

We’ve made Clausen look pretty decent today. Embarrassing.

So yeah. We’re going to lose. To Carolina.

We’re going to lose this. Let them run all over us. If they get a TD, we’re dead.

The hell is with us and not defending short throws?

This is where we lose the lead. Maybe we can limit the damage to a field goal….

Fuck this defense. Horrible. This might be against the worst offense in the league, too.

I hate to say this but if Browns can pull this game out I think Mangini’s days are numbered.

why are we getting worse as the season goes on?

This is a nightmare right, please tell me it is still Saturday night!

Pouring salt on the wound, Steelers just retook the lead.

whether we hold them to a field goal here or not, we don’t stand a chance if delhomme stays in

too late to pull him at this point I think

And who do we put in with everyone injured, Cribbs? Stuckey?

Up 21-7 and they’re on the verge of taking the lead. Absolutely ridiculous.

This could be the worst finishing football team I have ever seen.

Thank Delhomme. That pick 6 changed everything.

It is his calling card.

I am going to go one step farther than you. This IS the worst finishing football team I’ve ever seen.

we’re the reverse kardiac kids

As an Auburn alum, it is crazy this season watching Auburn come back and win every week and the Browns finding new ways to lose every week. Just complete opposites.

this team should be called the DOA kids!!

Thank God. Please miss this FG.

This is why you kick the field goal. We would stillbe leading.

Who cares, come on? We should be leading by 10 points or more by now. This game is a disaster.

Doesn’t mean you stop coaching. I care about every play. Bad choice.

I wouldn’t say so, Hillis needed 1 yard, it was practically a gimme, (I know there is no such thing in the NFL but…) and we could be up by 5.

Even with the first you don’t guarantee a TD. You might finish with a FG either way. We needed the cushion, make the PAnthers prove they could score an offensive TD.

25 yard line… That’d be a… 40 yard field goal? No guarantee Dawson makes it.

He better make a 40 yard field goal.

Come on now. This is just silly.

Maybe. I will agree with the decision to go for it.

It’s a 42 yarder. You don’t play with an assumption that your kicker can’t make that.

And no guarantee you pick up the fourth, but most folks would call the FG the higher percentage play.

Actually, I think most Browns fans would take the odds on Hillis getting that 1 yard before the 40 yd. kick.

Without Vickers in there blocking it’s not a very sure thing.

We would also still be leading if Delhomme hadn’t screwed up and thrown a pick 6. And if Kasey didn’t miss that other field goal and we still kicked the FG, we’d be losing.

If if if.

Game.

Pessimism, it’s 2 points, get a grip.

It’s the browns offense led by delhomme and dabol. I think we’re screwed.

I have no confidence in this offense to take the lead back.

Alright Cribbs. Earn your contract.

I think my aneurism is flaring up again.

Common ailment among our kind.

Could be worse. Let’s kick a field goal and regain the lead. This game isn’t over yet. And neither is the season.

I would love to see Wallace come out on this drive.

Who is the worst team in football now?

We are.. if we lose :(

No. Not even if we lost.

Still Buffalo.

Buffalo is actually ok. They’ve won 1 less game than we have and played very competitively the last few weeks.

Agreed, Carolina’s played the worse football of any team this year. We’re losing this for ourselves with poor decisions in the passing game and really bad tackling.

Buffalo, Cinci, Carolina, Dallas, take your pick.

The only QB having a worse day than Delhomme is Rusty Smith.

A rookie 3rd stringer.

That was lucky.

Great play by Delhomme. He finally used his legs, only took him 35 years to figure out he had any.

The line is not having a good second half. Along with the rest of the team.

Now why does our O – line all of a sudden stink?

2nd and 12. Crap.

They just compared delhomme to Farve. I see a few to many similarities between them.

The Vikings won today with Favre playing mistake free football (first time this year). We’re losing to the worse team in football b/c our QB can’t help making mistakes.

No comparison.

Favre is an (old, washed up) INT (old, washed up) machine, there’s a fair comparison. One mistake free game does not change that.

delete failure of the second ( ).

Now a false start. 2nd and 17.

Robiskie again.

i have no confidence in delhomme on 3rd and 10.

THANK GOD FOR HILLIS DAMN!

Huge sigh of relief.

I’m so glad we have hillis.

imagine how bad we would suck if we didnt have hillis!!

More luck on that. Hillis shouldn’t have gotten that first down.

Come on. Luck is part of the game.

Buffalo on 4 and 2 at Pitt’s 36, went for it, Fitzpatrick to Steve Johnson 10 yards, first down at Pitt 26.

Polamalu INT. Game over.

That was a nice throw. I’ll give him credit for that one.

If we’re going to pass, keep doing these quick slants. Jake looks sharp on them.

Robiskie is just showing up today!

Can this please be a sign of things to come for Robo?

Well, robo is having a good game at least.

We could really use a TD

No turnovers! Hillis, Hillis and more Hillis.

Did we seriously just fuck up another short yardage play?

WHAT WAS THAT?

very good question

Oh crap, we didn’t get it. Seriously?

i think it was pretty close

Do we go for it if it’s a 4th down or do we go fo the lead?

What! Take the lead every single time.

No debate on that one

Kick the FG. Easy call.

That was freakin’ stupid. RUN HILLIS. My God. I mean what the hell is that? 2ND AND 1 and we can’t freakin’ convert.

Well let’s see if Dawson can make this.

We’re going to lose. I’m amazed.

Was Holt just talking about how great of a WR Robo is?

Some seriously dumb stuff.

So did we cool off on the playoff talk here yet

get the fuck out of here, troll

Actually

it was a reasoned, calm discussion last time I was here.

Classy, though.

yeah, right, that’s what you came here for. Like I said, not a good time, get the fuck out of here.

Funny you talk about class after trolling us.

A little history

last time I was here we were discussing the Browns realistic shot at the post season.

Sorry guys.

you have to be pretty stupid to not know how that was going to go over.

You’re coming in asking about the playoffs when we have had a second half collapse to a crappy Carolina team. Timing is literally everything.

You had won by the time I said that

2 mins left in the game. We haven’t won anything.

It certainly came off as you being a smart ass, considering we’re struggling with a 1-win team and have very very long odds of sneaking into any playoff discussion.

Well you know what

I took it on all ends from you guys last time, without complaint or rudeness. Because I’m a guest. For the same reason I apologize for the way I worded things.

Last time I left a great many people insisted you guys were still playoff bound.

My mistake.

The problem is some of us don’t ike to be generalized especially in the waning moments of a close game. Many of us didn’t think we were playoff bound.

Many of you did

and the way you treated me and each other I mistook this for a very different atmosphere than what it is.

Again, it was my mistake.

Hey, buddy, I’m not trying to be rude. You just came in at a time when most everyone in here was pretty heated and fretting an embarrassing loss.

You have to realize tensions are high right now. We are barely beating a one win team.

Given the truth of that statement, what made you think that now was a good time to come over and comment about that? Do you also kick stray dogs and cats?

What made me think it was a good time?

Probably you going up on Carolina by a point.

you are seriously stupid if you think being up a point with three minutes left means anything.

Maybe

at least I’m not as nasty as you

I’d rather be nasty than that stupid.

Not me :)

ignorance is bliss I guess.

some level of ignorance is preferable to being mean and reactionary

and timing is everything, you wouldn’t get this kind of reception if you chose a better time to ask your question

This is true.

Unfortunately you guys don’t take what you give very well.

we can handle anything, we are browns fans remember….it’s just that during game threads the gloves may come off if it’s a heated game

almost anything but a well meaning fan of another team that says something you don’t want to hear.

You’re right though. I should have waited. I highly doubt I would have gotten a different reaction, but I should have waited.

On other blogs you can usually respond in kind without the drama.

are you ready to own up to lying? I miscounted before. you now have 30 total comments on this site, with 27 being in this thread. you come here every week? you are a fixture?

If your constantly changing math is true, I’ve had hidden or deleted comments.

Which it isn’t, according to my SB.

you keep posting so the total goes up. you had three comments here before today.

Some must have been deleted or hidden.

they must have been real gems if they were deleted

:(((((((((((((

^Rex Ryan emoticon.

This is the comment I meant to reply to with:

Most of us don’t make comments that can be construed as trolling.

So please don’t act like I’m coming out of nowhere.

Most fan bases are clearly not so sensitive.

We’re not most fan bases, we’re Browns fans, we’ve been through a lot. Also you must never have dealt with any fans of the other AFC North teams. Bottom line is you came over and said something that can be inflammatory when we were making the 1-9 Panthers look like a legit team after two straight late in the game collapses. I expect ANY fan base to react similarly.

Not in my experience.

I have a habit of circling SB blogs to punish REAL trolls from GGN who disturb other blogs.

None to date have been like this.

Again, circumstances, tact, and timing.

Nor do they make excuses for their behavior.

sure, but your level is not just “some” level if you truly believe being up one point with three minutes left means the game is over. have you ever watched a football game before?

Whatever you say man. Keep up the nasty doom and gloom.

Your teams about to win, don’t miss it.

So you decided to come over and troll us after two very tough close losses and while we are fighting for a win?

You use the term troll extremely loosely

The way things played out last time I had no idea you guys were so sensitive.

you should take a hint and leave now.

Coming over in the middle of a close game where we’re struggling. If that’s not trolling, then I don’t know what is.

I'm here every week

never had a blow up before.

Either way, I’m sorry you guys are so offended.

you are not here every week. stop lying.

Yes, I am

you do not comment here every week. stop lying.

I may have missed a week

unfortunately for you I am a fixture, until I say something so dumb that you’re all angry at me I.E. now.

However if you’re so certain I’m lying feel free to prove me wrong.

Most of us don’t make comments that can be construed as trolling.

I don’t know how to respond to this, it isn;t even related to the discussion.

I can’t help your hyper-sensitivity.

you have only been a member of this site since november 7th. you have not been here every week and now I have proved you were lying. get out.

That's 4 weeks

and you’re stupid

that hardly counts as a fixture. you’ve had what? one comment a week, maybe?

More if you do the math

It makes me a regular. Or at least trying to be one. Looks like I’m telling the truth and you jumped the gun. I wonder if that’s a habit with you…

as of right now you have 27 total comments. 23 are in this thread. that makes one per week since you joined.

Looks like you’re lying. I wonder if that’s a habit with you…

lol, fib much with numbers, do we?

But I’m the liar…

http://www.sbnation.com/users/Bro%20Namath

count ’em yourself.

34 comments half of which have to be in this thread.

That’s an embellishment.

However it looks like some of mine have been deep sixed.

33 of 36 as of this comment.

There were more prior t this week.

look, just admit you lied.

As much as I’d like to validate your obsession, you’re wrong.

So ntn, how do you like your chances for going to the playoffs now?

not trying to be an ass, I promise, but how old are you?

Oh no? Because if I reply to this either way you’re going to say “I thought so” or “act your age”.

You haven’t exactly been the bane of maturity man.

Still if I could word my apology a thousand more ways I already would have.

Look. I don’t want to be a dick, but for you to come and chide us for not making the playoffs makes you a bigger dick.

This is especially odd to me coming from a Jets fan. I live in New York and have a number of friends that like the Jets. Most of them don’t make fun of me for liking the BRowns, because they all know it will bite them in the ass. The Jets have a history of raising expectations and choking. I hope it changes for my friends, but then you come along and make excited for the next time the Jets blow it.

Just so you know ALL of this was in response to brash insistence that the Browns would make the playoffs, and endless smack talk which I took in stride.

So, I will be sure to return the favor when the Jets are losing to the Pats in the playoffs with the game on the line.

Please do.

I’ll handle it like an adult.

Will every commenter on your website? Because you are excellent at lumping all Browns fans into one singular voice.

If you weren’t so reactionary I wouldn’t be inclined to say so.

Your response is the most reasoned and calm of all. That’s saying something.

I think you’d get a different response if you tried that comment not when we were about to blow a game to the Panthers.

Also, who the hell asks if a 3-7 team has stopped talking about the playoffs? That’s just stupid to think about asking.

The person who was told by 3-6 fans that their team is playoff bound.

By what 2 fans? 5? It was a minority of our fans who seriously thought we had a chance at making the playoffs, and this is some great offense to you.

It was never offensive to me.

Unfortunately the same cannot be said for you guys.

So I really want to know exactly how you justify your original question. It’s obvious that you thought it was a stupid idea then, so how will you defend asking it with these so called good intentions?

I guess responding to comments on both of our blogs isn’t justification enough.

So all you have to do to have good intentions is to participate in a few discussions?

Nice logic leap

I don’t have to do ANYTHING to have good intentions. It doesn’t require being proactive.

It just means I didn’t mean to hurt feelings of cause bad blood with the OP.

Ok. Will you at least concede that your timing was terrible?

You mean like I have dozens of times already, not satisfying you? Sure. Bad timing.

Feel free to admit how reactionary you’ve all been any time.

Great. Thanks. Up a few comments you said that you highly doubt we would have reacted differently to the question.

If you really have been around these last 4 weeks, then you will have seen very civil discussion and know that this reaction was not the norm.

Probably

but I can’t expect people to know that win I’m poking fun in response that I’m not being malicious.

I can say I’m sorry, I can say go Browns, I can apologize for the timing, but I can’t make you guys calm down.

Consider that to the outside perspective your blogs overall reaction was equally if not more offensive, if you can.

Probably.

I don’t know how that ascribes more responsibility to me, though. If anything you’re more or less telling me it’s your guys fault you’re so offended.

Just so you know ALL of this was in response to brash insistence that the Browns would could make the playoffs, and endless smack talk which I took in stride.

fixed

I don’t think anyone here was THAT optimistic.

Heh.

Yes they were.

Please provide at least some shred of proof that there were members here that were so optimistic.

I can’t believe I’m actually digging back to appease you.

But I am. Wait for it.

It’s cool. I’ll wait.

I really doubt it, I tend to be one of the more optimistic fans here, I predicted 10-6 at the beginning of the year. Before the Jets game I was one of the few that said we could (not would) make the playoffs and that is where my judgment of:

I don’t think anyone here was THAT optimistic.
came from. Maybe you construed the maybe talk for sure thing talk, I don’t know.

I don’t know what to tell you.

For people who have such issues with my grouping you together you certainly generalize and speak for your fan base pretty well.

You seem like you’re looking for things to pick at now.

I don’t think

Is not a generalization.

Alright then.

I disagree by way of first hand witnessing.

If you’ve had comments deleted than they were taken as inflammatory by our mods and you’re not making yourself look any less trollish by bringing it to light.

Not necessarily. His comments could have been replies to other comments which were deleted.

I kind of assumed I replied to threads that got tossed.

Unimportant. The browns won and we can all celebrate.

Dude, stop will you? You say you came on here with good intentions. Your timing was terrible at best and now you’re just looking like a douche.

Only a douche would aggressively congratulate you on a win and root for you in game, in spite of what your fans think about said douche.

All I’m saying is that you carrying this thing out as if you’re a contributing member here is making you look like a douche. if you had these good intentions as you said you did, then this would stop.

HAD good intentions is the right way to describe it.

When I’m kissing your teams ass, I’m a contributing member.

How were you kissing our team’s ass? Your first comment was something about not getting ahead of ourselves with playoff talk.

in reference to other topics/replies

I replied to the wrong comment my bad, I meant for the can’t take what we dish out comment.

You have 21 total comments on this blog

Little surprise that you’d cite something as empty as that as proof.

Really? Because it seems to be the consensus here. You may not have intended it the way it came out, and if so you need better timing and tact.

Real classy coming in with a shot at our team.

The word ‘class’ doesn’t belong in your vocabulary.

Wtf, you’re a mod too you piece of shit.

He’s a Jets fan. Nuff said.

Wow

my mistake for bringing up what we had previously discussed.

go fornicate yourself.

Don’t act ignorant. That was a douchey comment and you know it.

Or maybe we talked about it before

either way, it was my mistake.

a moderator on your board, even. Piece of shit.

Oh man, they squeak out a few wins and all of a sudden the little troll thinks he’s Captain America.

Squeaked out wins against bad teams.

Um can we try running with Vickers blocking?

Is Vickers seriously not in on these short yardage plays?

i think he’s hurt. last i saw him he was on the sideline, helmet off.

On the last 3rd down play Delhomme tried a Qb sneak on a quick snap. They didn’t make any substitutions so Vickers wasn’t in. They tried to catch the defense off guard but it didn’t owrk.

they play before that they tried an inside handoff to Hillis with Delhomme in the shotgun. It didn’t fool anyone. I hope Vickers isn’t hurt though. At the time I was annoyed that we were trying these types of plays when we should just line up in the i and smash them.

THANK GOD.

DO YOUR JOB, DEFENSE!

that was tooooo close!

Thank god for hodges.

Bah, we needed a TD.

Terry Bradshaw “well imagine this, a Cleveland Brown highlight.”

Why are former steelers calling highlights for our game?

What a jackass.

(Hillis with 36 fantasy points)

A lead is a lead, and a win is a win, who cares how or by how much. Hold on and win!!!!

Let’s go defense!!!!!!

Can we please pick off Clausen now? I’ve waited for it all day.

Please, please, please.

Get a pick!

Alright defense. Don’t let the worst offense in the league beat you.

Delhomme has a whole 8 points on the day.

Even if we stop them here and get the ball back, they’ve got all 3 timeouts. We’re going to need another decent drive out of the offense.

Bills have a chance.

I have an awful feeling right now… I wish I didn’t.

that fumble by moore looks pretty bad now.

Oh yeah. I said that like 40 minutes ago, but still. Looks even worse now.

Ugh, my CBS 4 o’clock game is the Dolphins & Raiders.

UGH.

SHIT.

I need to stop switching to this during commercials.

Fuck, they’re in FG range.

game over

GO BROWNS GO BROWNS GO BROWNS

YEAH!!!! IT IS OVER!!!!

THANK GOD. THANK GOD. THANK GOD.

It’s not over.

I didn’t realize they have all 3 time outs when I typed that.

Hell yes Haden!!!!

Sweet Jesus I love Joe Haden

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

3 time outs. It’s not over yet.

Do we run now!

Smart play by Haden to slide and not risk fumbling the return. Very smart for a rookie.

Haha, who saw Ryan completely flip on the sidelines? Haha.

I take back what I said about the Raiders game. Oakland with a 101 yard kick off return on the opening kick off.

GAME! Love me some Haden.

HERE WE GO BROWNIES HERE WE GO

Who gets the game ball, Hillis, Haden, or Dawson?

is that even a question? 3 TDs man, Hillis is our entire offense

Carolina had used a timeout on that challenge early in the half right?

Nope. They didn’t lose the time out.

nope, remember they got the challenge right, but the pass was ruled incomplete

think that was a Browns challenge

Nope, they changed the ruling though so they got to keep it.

Our O line looks like complete trash.

I thought they did pretty good really

Over last game, immensely. But St. Clair is still St. Clair and they broke down after the half.

Should be running to the left.

WOOOOOOOOO!!! Thank god

Oh my God. They’re still going to get a chance.

They’re still going to have time.

Oh my God…

Wow. We went 3 and out.

Not surprised. They knew we would run it.

We need a long punt now.

I’d rather have a punt downed inside the 10

Shut up, Holt. Delhomme nearly cost us the game.

hodges for president!!

HODGES FOR PRO BOWL.

Let’s go D!!!!!!!

Hodges showing he’s worth that contract we just gave him.

Surely we can’t lose now?

Don’t see how, relax.

Rush 3 and drop the other 8 into coverage. That’s the only defense I want to see.

Ol=nly rush Rogers all else in coverage.

Only Browns fans worry about giving the ball to a rookie QB on a 1-9 team with one minute left and no time outs.

Have you ever rooted for a Cleveland sports team

REC.

You don’t get it. I’m worried too.

Shit needed that first down. Browns D better remember how to tackle.

I can’t watch.

ROB TRIED TO CATCH IT!

He’s lucky they didn’t throw a unsportsmanlike conduct flag on him.

Rob Ryan for coach of the year!

Ryan almost gets the pick

Buffalo has just tied the Stealers.

serious? nice!

wow, one of the few times i will go root for buffalo

And Clausen to lose the game please.

Woah, that ball just missed Ryan’s man region.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME.

what the hell was that!!??

Wow. Browns football.

THIS IS CLEVELAND! lol

We might have the worst tackling in the leauge.

WHAT THE FUCK.

12 seconds. Cannot allow a completion here.

We need to try to keep the ball layer up for 12 seconds then tackle.

I can’t watch the last few seconds.

Guard the sidelines no matter what.

Our defenders need to tackle and stop trying to strip the ball.

Especially late.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Anyone here still think we are one player away?

This is why I love/hate being a Browns fan

They still need about 20 yards, we cannot let a completion to the sideline.

Oh my God… I am about to die.

We’re going to lose.

You are shoring me.

I mean shiting me.

omg someone call an ambulance, i need resuscitation

that’s not a catch

my feed’s dead! what happened!?!

You have got to be kidding me.

that’s a catch

We’re fucked because of the replay. He was in bounds, and the clock would’ve run. But the refs will let them start the play at 5 seconds and have time to clock it.

Not a catch. The bill hits the ground.

Review? What is going on?

This is unbelievable.

Does anyone else see a bounce to that ball?

This team is an abortion.

Get the bottles ready to throw

not enough evidence to overturn that

There’s no way that’s a catch.

No catch but it doesn’t matter.

Looks like a catch to me.. another Sunday ruined.

I can’t believe this. We get an interception with a minute and a half left, and we’re going to find a way to lose.

What an epic fail.

I really can’t fucking take this shit anymore.

I’m shocked right now.

THEY STARTED ON OUR FOUR. YARD. LINE.

Typical, big play D.

Baby blocks the FG?

He wasn’t out of bounds. This game should be over.

We’re pathetic anyway, though.

isn’t that down by contact? What the hell!

Another Sunday ruined now.

What was the ruling on the replay

Mangini is going to be gone.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, your Cleveland Browns

OMG i think i pooped my pants

NO GOOD!!!!!!!!

Yeah, he didn’t get out of bounds.. it should be over

yeah, that. serious screwup by the refs there. oh well, i’m happy!

Hahahahahahahahaha.

missed a 42 yarder

I fucking hate the Browns.

I take no pleasure in this win. I feel like we lost.

This. What an embarrassing win.

I’d be more embarrassed with a loss.

I’m just relieved.

Makes up for Jets game which felt like a win.

We are slaves to karma.

yep. this sucks. but we won. bring on the dolphins

Holy shit, how did we win this.

we scored more points than carolina/

off the upright

Why would Mangini be gone? He didn’t throw the INTs, he didn’t fumble on the two.

I like Mangini, but at some point your team needs to win games they have in hand.

I blame Daboll more than Mangini in that aspect, he’s calling the plays.

Coach is responsible for the O coordinator especially when he has insisted on keeping him.

What is he calling wrong? It’s not his fault that Delhomme threw those picks. They weren’t bad play calls.

The sneak was an awful call. You don’t have to be the Daboll apologist every time someone says something bad about him.

I’m just tired of people always complaining about the play calling and blaming their OC when things don’t go well. it’s so easy to do and EVERY team’s fans do it. It’s all second guessing.

Nobody would have complained about the quick snap if it worked.

But it didn’t did it? And who called it? Daboll.

Well I certainly can’t argue with that logic . . . .

Nobody would have complained about the quick snap if it worked.

Hyperbole.

I would have still said a sneak by Delhomme was an awful call and that we were lucky it worked.

the game was borderline embarrassing. This team keeps quitting on him in the 2nd half

How were they quitting? They played poorly, specifically Delhomme, but how is that the same as quitting?

Eric Mangini, your job is on the line. Hope the Browns play better, for your sake.

WHO SAID GAME OVER!?!?!?!?!?!

That was torture.

that was an ugly win

a win is a win

BUT – a W is a W

just ask the lucky Jets

Hahaha.

Well. Neither team wanted this game.

I can’t believe it. I still don’t get why we ran way less than pass…Daboll still needs to be fired

Que BB to call you stupid.

I am waiting on it. I just don’t get the play calling most of the time with this team.

when it happens EVERY game in the second half, there is a coaching issue going on.

No, no, no. You need to keep throwing the ball after two picks, it’s imperative.

Do you actually listen to anything I say? Or do you just make it up as you go?

I’ve never, ever, called anyone stupid. But keep making things up.

Haha, you can’t take a joke. I know you don’t call people stupid.

How is that possibly a joke?

We beat a 1-9 team by a whopping 1point, Should have never been this close!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

big ben sacked at the 1!!!!

Justice after that bullshit clock stoppage!

Pittsburgh punting from own endzone.

We have one ugly win every year. Let’s hope this was it for this year and we come out better against the Dolphins. We’re on the road the next three weeks. If we play like we did today, I’m fearing a 3 game losing streak.

Get well soon, Colt!

Can’t wait for him to be back.

Can Pittsburgh please lose to Buffalo? That would be hilarious.

buffalo will get great feild position!!! and then they fumble the punt!

And recover the football. Hallelujah.

Disgusting 2nd half play. This team is very deficient in talent and it shows most every week.

Why deficient in talent? We have more talent that we have had in awhile, and our new GM looks to be a whiz in the draft.

i agree we are a few pieces away from winning these close games we are losing. Way better than 99 when we were 22 pieces away.

But he’s only been here one year. We may have more talent then we’ve had in a while but that doesn’t mean we’re not stilll deficient in many areas. We are.

i agree with this too hahaha…..we are way better but still deficient i says

What exactly are you disagreeing with? I am not saying we are stacked. I am saying we are more talented than in the past, and I trust we will continue moving in that direction.

Then why did you disagree with his comment? Or, at least, you replied in a way which seemed like you were disagreeing.

I disagree characterizing the team as “very deficient in talent.” That makes it seem like we have no players. We have quite a few good players. We still need to get better no question.

I don’t think it means we have no players, it just means we have less than most teams. And we do.

We are better than last year but this game show our weaknesses on both sides of the ball. This 1-10 team should have won for cripes sakes.

Need WRs and a DL or LB sack machine desperately to be a consistently good team.

I think you guys are misinterpreting my statements as being content with our current talent. I am saying we are not deficient. We are not one of the worst teams in the league. We have some talent. We’ve had some key injuries, which has hurt us of late. This team is not too far off, but we still need to add pieces.

We have less talent than most teams so we are deficient in talent. Maybe we aren’t the worst in the league but we’re certainly below average.

Eh, the original comment was “very deficient in talent,” now you are skewing the argument to say merely below average. These are quite different things, but at the risk of brossing it with semantics, let’s just say I completely disagree with the characterization of the Browns as very deficient in talent. I think we are around league average, and with an easier schedule and healthy QBs, we’d be above .500 no question in my mind.

Damn Bills. That was close.

My family in NY are Bills fans. They’re probably having heart attacks right now.

Also! Joe Haden still deserves a medal

I wanted him to return that pick for a touchdown. Unless it’s a situation that lets you kneel on the ball to end the game, I think you have to try to score.

no, remember the fumble last week? The kid what he had to do

I didn’t mind Stuckey going for the extra yards, either. i just wanted both guys to do it with two arms around the football.

I liked going down, that last series should never happen.

Right. don’t risk a fumble. Smart play.

Holy fuck, what an anxious game. Let’s hope the Steelers and Ravens lose every game and we win all of ours, then we go to the playoffs. Season ain’t over yet.

This is an ugly loss, but you know what? Right now, at 3-7, I don’t care. I’m just happy we didn’t lose to a 1 loss team.

4-7. We have to do better against Miami.

shoulda been pi on troy!

Hate the ’stache on Fitzpatrick

Looks like an old mountain man.

When did Fitzpatrick become so clutch?

GO ROOT FOR BUFFALO?!?!
 

OK!

If Steelers lose, I would love to see the faces of those arrogant fans.

…COME ON BUFFALO DAMN!

OH MY GOD. HE DROPPED THE GAME WINNING TD.

Johnson drops ball in endzone! Ack!

If Buffalo wins, will it be the start of another Steelers death spiral? I hope so.

Nice BE imitation.

The commentator pulled a “why so serious”. Awesome.

Congrats on the win guys

here’s hoping Buffalo gives it to Pitt.

by it I mean hell.

Hillis had 37 fantasy points. What a beast.

Think how many more if we didn’t implode…

What was his rushing total?

Damn. They still pull this win out though.

We have to be trying to lose these games – there is no fucking way a rookie drives his team from their own 4 with less than a min and no timeouts and sets them up for a win. We are lucky as hell (for once).

johnson has to feel like shit right now!

Come on, Bills!

I don’t have the liver for this team

Try watching and being abstinent from alcohol. The heart takes it, not the liver.

I picked an awful time to quit smoking cigarettes.

I know, that’s why I started drinking!

This team easily has the talent for a playoff run, if a couple of close games had gone the other way.

Never thought I’d say this, but GO BUFFALO!

I’m sorry but we lost on the last play of overtime, gave up a 75 yard screen pass to lose and almost lost to the 1-9 panthers with 10 seconds left. This team is never going to be a playoff team if they don’t understand that the last minute is actually still part of the game.

Some people say the same thing about my team.

Simple fact is if a few plays had gone slightly different you guys would have a much better record and a serious shot right now.

Personally I think we are a few players away from making a serious run. Our record and late game collapses tend to make it look that way. Right side OL, a backup RB, some youth on the DL and maybe a couple DBs (a CB and a true FS more specifically) and a true #1 WR and we are a serious contender. Either way with the combined history of our current FO, I’m excited about next year.

Add pass rusher.

Not high on Elam?

Or is her playing strong, I can’t remember.

Elam has just turned it on the last two games, but he seems more like a SS than a FS, and I’d rather give the SS starting spot to the young and promising Ward. He would make a great backup/spot starter though.

Poor Bills. The first down TD is dropped and you still can’t get the first down.

So not to keep dumping on the Browns but is Josh Cribbs or someone going to run one back or at least get past the 30 on a KR at some point?

Haden has.

True but didn’t we give Josh Cribbs a huge pay raise and when is he going to break out on ST?

His pay is incentive based. On offense and ST scoring.

True, but I’m guessing since we’re really thin at corner they don’t want to expose him on ST?

I’d assume. He’s also a starter and Cribbs’ has a history of being awesome so why pull him?

only if he were injured would be my guess

Cringe is injured. Not back to full yet. Earlier this year teams were kicking away from him.

Er, Cribbs. Stooped autocorrect.

Man, Steve Johnson dun goof’d.

Consequences will never be the same.

Bcuz I backtraced it!

Eh, those references ran out, but oh well, nice one.

Come on Bills, they’re missing their shots

3rd and long. Force a punt, Buffalo!

Man. 4-7 sounds so much better than 3-8.

its a sad day when buffalo’s defense plays better than ours!!

They’re giving us great tape for our next game against them.

Oh man. Buffalo’s falling apart now.

yeah you just can’t give the steelers so many shots

I can’t believe he dropped that game winning TD catch…

Pittsburgh’s ability to find bruising, physical backs is praiseworthy.

Not looking good for the boys in blue.

Jeez, it feels like we didn’t even win. Dabol sucked today.

one had to break for us eventually

Oh Bills. I needed an upper after that game.

i feel a big penalty coming for pittsburgh!! send em back 10 yards!!

Who thinks this game would have been a walk if Colt were healthy? I mean, besides me.

No way Colt throws a pick 6.

At least not one as terrible as JD threw.

It was so bad. It didn’t make me angry. It shot me over angry into numb and uncaring.

I dunno. Colt wouldn’t have thrown the picks, but the WRs also wouldn’t have had as many receptions.

If you ask me, against the non-existent Panthers D that was out there today I believe Colt would have put up well over 300 yards through the air.

WHEN ARE THEY JUST GOING TO CUT DELHOMME

Not to say I told you so but I said when they acquired Delhomme he was a below average Quarterback and was a horrible pick up. I ACTUALLY HATE JAKE DELHOMME!!

i actually wouldnt have minded keeping ratliff over delhomme!!

the best thing jake has done this year is mentor McCoy

Yup, you were the only one to say that, chief.

I don’t hate him as a person – he is a classy guy, but I hated that we signed him and actually paid him decent money. He is a good back up though and he should have been signed with a backup’s contract.

If we offered him a backup’s contract he’d have taken the backup job in N’yorlins and he wouldn’t be mentoring Colt.

It’s a 2 year deal and 7 mil for a QB isn’t much. I think the Cards gave Derek Anderson that much money.

Also a no cap year.

I don’t see it as a bad investment.

True – oh well, I could live with that too

ANGRY REACTIONARY COMMENT!!!!!!!!!111

Seriously, get a grip, he’s here mentoring McCoy. McCoy has said a million times how great a mentor Jake is. He just shouldn’t be playing.

DO theyneed to pay a quarterbacks coach 7 MILLION???? Delhomme is not helping this team on the field. He is doing the worst job of protecting the ball out of all the quarterbacks and he has the most experience. HE BLOWS and will be gone. You cant win not protecting the ball and he is a turnover machine. TELLING STAT 1 touchdown 6 interceptions two returned for a touchdowns! He is a liability on the field and there are better quarterback coaches than him. It is not a crime unless he plays again, There is not defending him at all

DO theyneed to pay a quarterbacks coach 7 MILLION????

Uncapped year

Delhomme is not helping this team on the field.

He lead some nice drives, and had two mistakes all game.
He is doing the worst job of protecting the ball out of all the quarterbacks and he has the most experience

I know Seneca has at least 1 pick six, all of our QBs have been throwing picks.
He is a liability on the field and there are better quarterback coaches than him.

Yes, and no. Who was available that would have been a better mentor than Delhomme?
There is not defending him at all

Tell that to the young kid carpooling to work with him every day that swears that his mentoring is so invaluable.

What do you want McCoy to say, that Delhomme is a boob? Come on Delhomme will be gone and should be. He has 1 touchdown pass and 6 picks enough said. HE WAS NOT BROUGHT IN TO TEACH McCoy. He was brought in to start and he sucks. McCoy could have been taken before the Browns picked. As DORN said this was a great draft and we lucked into McCoy and the way he looks so far….BUT Delhomme was brought in to steady the ship, and play steady football till someone else was groomed. HE IS SINKING THE SHIP. ARE YOU NOT WATCHING?

Oh I’m watching, I’m just not running around yelling that the sky is falling. Delhomme was brought in as a stopgap, as a placeholder until we got something better. If you think that Holmgren wasn’t looking at drafting a QB when he signed Delhomme you are even crazier than I think you are. And if you think that Delhomme wasn’t also brought in to help mentor whatever QB caught his fancy than you are just plain nuts. The fact is we had to pay him to pry him away from New Orleans. And try and tell me that Holmgren didn’t have his eyes on Colt the entire draft.

Poor Buffalo :(

The Stealers win in overtime. Goat of the game – Steve Johnson.

God I hate the steelers

They are the damnluckiest team in the NFL.

You don’t need luck with the refs on your side…

I gotta go now. A crappy win, but a win nonetheless. GO BROWNS.

Oh Johnson. You’re the Chansi Stuckey of the Bills.

For a second there I thought you were addressing your own penis.

No, because then the whole sentence would make absolutely no sense to the context I was talking about.

#$$ Buffalo! It’s the @#$%&! Browns I care about. I am not sure if I am reading the room here correctly, but it seems like many people are more upset about this close and ugly win than they were about any of the close and ugly losses.

And there is good reason for that. Almost every member here will argue that we are a way better team than our record says. We didn’t show it today, not in the second half at least.

last two games show we deserve to be 4-7

I am tired of the “We are better than our record” argument. While I feel we are better than last year at the end of the day all the morale wins matter less than your actual wins and losses. If we end up say 6-10, is that really something to crow about?

Well what is your expectation. Do you want to see progress, or do you want to take this year’s W-L record as the final end all? I would be okay with 6-10 against the hardest schedule in the NFL in which we were mostly competitive. Especially since our new front office appears to have a clue. It doesn’t happen in one year.

I’ve not seen much progress in the last two weeks. We’re playing worse as the season draws to a close.

Look, I’d have the entire front office and coaching staff return next season, but I feel they have to do a better job than they’ve done against Jacksonville and against Carolina.

Jacksonville was disappointing, but you didn’t see progress from some of our young defensive players in that game? I sure did. We need help on offense still, that much is obvious, but our offense is light years better than last year which might have been the worst offense in NFL history.

Yes, which is why I said I’d like them all to return next year. This draft class is looking very good.

I think we need to look at where this team was a year ago in the first half of the season. No QB, no running game, no passing attack. Literally could not get first downs.

The question the coaching staff needs to answer (and this is on them) is why does the team play such poor football in the second half?

Completely agree on this. Team has looked great in multiple first halves. What the heck is going on with the team in control? That is a coaching issue in my opinion.

I think maybe our aging D-line/backers are getting winded as the game goes on allowing the opposing O more breathing room.

I have not forgotten, and agree there is improvement but that is a far cry from some fans that claim we are one player away or 3 plays from from being a “winning” team. Hopefully the Browns organization can build on the improvements of this year, have a great draft and make a few key free agent signings next year and THEN take a big step forward next year.

Are there a lot of people saying we are one player away? I actually do think we are quite close to having a winning record this season, the team just couldn’t close out games they had in control. This to me says we aren’t too far away considering we have had the hardest schedule in the league.

You are right we are heading in the right direction, no doubt about it

Those close ugly losses were against good teams, not the 1-9 de-clawed Panthers.

It’s true, it feels like a loss

But you are right, we should be happy

the reason this game was close is because the coaching staff was planning ahead for the miami game this week

I can’t tell if this is a joke or a stupid excuse…

Still, it was a win, no? It was better than losing to the Jags and the Jets.

I guess I am one member who sill not argue that they are way better than their record. Better, but not way better. They are a 4-7 team that should probably be 6-5.

I’ll take a hard tough lose than a shitty game given to us.

What? No. Are you serious.

You’d rather be 3-8 because it’s how he played but not 4-7 because we got kind of lucky?

 Does 3-8 or 4-7 really matter at this point?

Uh, what? You know the objective is to win in football right?

How many picks does Haden have? 5? He is so beastly.

So where are we on the QB next week? Delhomme had the 2 bad passes – but otherwise looked good. Cant tolerate the mistakes – my guess is we go Seneca? What say you?

If McCoy can’t go, it HAS to be Seneca, no question.

Seneca till McCoy gets back. Delhomme cannot protect the ball, HIS number one job. I agree Wallace as the starter, Miami will be a difficult game. Line will be Cleveland favored by 2

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