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Cleveland Browns vs. Jacksonville Jaguars - Official Game Thread (Part II)

The Browns and Jaguars have played pretty even, but Jacksonville leads 10-7 at the half. Can the Browns come out and put some more points on the board in the second half?

 

 

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Game: Cleveland Browns vs. Jacksonville Jaguars
Date/Time: Sunday, November 21, 2010 at 1:00 p.m. EST
Local Television: WOIO/CBS, Channel 19 (Cleveland)
Announcers: Bill Macatee & Rich Gannon

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Go Go Browns :D

Defense needs to stop Jax early and O needs to capitalize. We can do it.

I missed something. Who is this Smit dude returning kicks? Is he that RB we put on the practice squad a while back?

Smith

nope, some bum we claimed from waivers

lol I’ll check t out later then. Thanks

We signed his butt of his couch a week ago.

Former (NFC) pro bowl return man.

Injuries

I can understand so far the difficulties on the defensive side, and of course limitations on offense with Cribbs out, but christ our o-line needs to show up at some point in this game or this could get ugly.

I would really like to see some of that UFO defense this half.

I would really like to see Watson back on the field :(

He has already been back on the field.

Oh great, thanks!

notice my not giving a shit about Wright.

I hate this Vodka ad :\

Back to the living room. GO BROWNS!!!!

We’re giving MJD like 7 yards a carry.

I just knew cutting Veikune was a bad idea.

D is getting crushed at the line.

Dude. Elam is everywhere.

Almost picked off.

3rd and 7. Let’s nip this in the bud.

SACK!

Awesome start, D!!!

Wow. We got lucky with that non-call.

OMG, Benard’s swim move is sick.

Benard up to 6.5 sacks for the year.

That’s one for every down he’s played.

You idiot. You made the fair catch. You can’t run.

I laughed out loud after he started to run.

Looked like he got nipped though, which I think defaults a fair catch.

Lucky we didn’t get flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct there.

That’s the result of running off a fair catch?

Sometimes, because you are almost egging the coverage team to illegally tackle you if they then think you didn’t call for a fair catch.

Is the ATDHE stream down?

Miss DQwell

Who is she?

Miss Jackson’s daughter?

I’m sorry Miss Jackson?

“never meant to make you’re daughter cry…”

Dqwell Jakcson.

Elam stepping up for the D – very nice.

Let’s tie it up or take the lead here. O-line needs to step up.

Let’s tie it up or take the lead here. O-line needs to step up.

Can’t. St. Claire is in.

Nice McCoy!

you petting him or something?

Um…. no. It was a nice run for the first down.

WTF. That was like when madden knows what play your going to run

Jeez, he loves the hurrdle.

Peyton really does love the hurdle.

Peyton’s going to kill himself.

Is the hurdle a stat? If so he averages one a game.

Hillis, Headed for Olympics

Smart of moMass to bat that down.

We have them pinned deep. Let’s get another stop.

Pick six territory? But they have to start trying to disguise the defense.

I think missing Fujita makes that tough.

Pro Bowler, Reggie Hodges.

Touchdown? PLEASE LET IT STAND!

TOUCHDOWN!!!!!

ELAM IS ON FIRE!!!!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy crap, what a play! I guess going for the strip all those times finally paid off.

It definitely works better when you aren’t the only defender there.

It was out! TOUCHDOWN!

MJD knows he lost it.

Elam’s on fire!!!

Now if only St. Clair would spontaneously combust.

Would you throw in Rubin at RT?

no.

O ye of little faith. Rubin is an upgrade at every position.

FB if vickers gets hurt.

Game ball: Abram Elam!

WAY TO GO DEFENSE! WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

That was dumb by Jax. PLAY TO THE WHISTLE GUYS! HAHAHAHAH!

A guy in my league has the Browns D and is playing them. He’s smart.

I’m playing against CLE D AND Hillis. Fuck it, I don’t care.

I think i might pick up clevelands D. Carolina next. nice.

Hell yes!!! Let’s hope this starts a fire underneath our offense.

It has started one on defense for sure.

Elam stepping up big time!!!

I half wish they had thrown the challenge flag. One replay wasn’t enough. I’m still not sure what happened.

Elam legitimately just stripped it and scooped it.

They showed it twice. It was legit dude.

There will be a highlight on nfl.com.

HAHAHA THAT WAS AWESOME!!!!

DABOLL – ELAM FOR GOVERNOR/LT

Is Bowens senator?

Elam is having a good game. I’m happy for him.

cool seeing the stunned look on the other team's faces.

Man, we always fall for the screen.

Look at all those empty seats. It’s sad.

yeah, they shouldve drafted tebow

They might have had he fell to the fourth round where he belonged.

Whelp, in other news, Aaron Rogers is officially sticking the fork into Favre. 16/25, 242 yards, 3 TD.

He’s on my team. Much needed. I’m down 20.

Wow lucky that was a bad throw!

Nice. I want some OFFENSE.

He’s short!

4th and 1. Stop them!

I smell pass.

I don’t smell so good.

My house smells soooo good today. Coffe, cabbage, vinegar and rum soaked tobacco.

I think we’ll give it up.

But I hope not!

I never think we’ll stop them on a play like that. Guess I don’t get to see any offense before I leave for work. =[

WARD WITH A PICK, GUYS!!!!

We’re thin at DB.

Our safeties are making up for all those dropped picks!

the magic 8-ball predicted it!

TJ WARD!!!! 1st Interception of his NFL career baby!!

Now let’s get a score out of this!

Wow, D is stepping up. Thank you halftime.

Ugh. Run, run, pass?

Another turnover with a 3 and out. Jesus.

Ugh, that was on McCoy. COME ON OFFENSE!

No where to throw it.

Yeah, but throw it away. That’s 4 sacks.

Yeah. It’s frustrating how we’ve had 2 INTs and follow them with 3 and outs. Running it with Hillis on 1st and 2nd was too predictable.

Well, guess we have to hope for more pick 6’s and scoop TDs.

What are Colt’s stats so far.

11 16 146 68.8 9.1 1 TD 118.2

11/16, 146, 1 TD, 0 ints

11 for 16, for 146 yards and 68.8% with a 118.2 rating

If we’re going to play Martyball (2 run 1 pass) we need some receivers with good hands

Pathetic performance by the o-line c’mon get fired up and stop that pass rush!

Coleman, get the sack. God.

Those missed sacks are getting annoying.

Man our D line needs to work on their wrap tackles

OH THANK GOD WE GOT THAT FUMBLE.

We are in FG range.

There’s NO reason Colt should have been sacked 4 times!!

INT BABY!

Dammit Haden! Shit!!

Whew, thank god for Gocong.

NOW GET A TD. 3 INTS. COME ON GET SOME POINTS.

Great. Run run pass again?

awful playcalling today

I don’t know. McCoy hasn’t looked great today. I don’t mind them sticking with the run.

Case in point. He’s been consistently off target.

O-line hasn’t helped him much either, but yeah he hasn’t looked so good.

consistently off target??????

11 for 16, for 146 yards and 68.8% with a 118.2 rating

That sure is a bad stat line.

The stat line doesn’t tell the whole story. Several (including ones which were caught) should have been picked. He’s been high, he’s been behind receivers, he’s had several passes touched first by Jags.

agreed.

still a better day than Carson Palmer.

okay, but why not throw on 1st down in this spot? i think its too conservative. at least mix it up a little more.

I get what you’re saying. I think with the way we’re getting dominated up front, we’d be asking McCoy to throw with out benefit of the passing lanes he needs. Pure speculation on my part, but I think the game is dictating the gameplan at this point. I doubt they came in with a conservative gameplan, but with Jacksonville pushing our linemen backwards and bringing extra guys outside to eliminate the playaction bootleg, we’re kind of stuck with the plays we’re seeing called. I hope this isn’t the beginning of teams knowing how to exploit McCoy’s weaknesses, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it is.

It probably is, and hopefully he adjusts. It doesn’t help that they’ve been stuffing Hillis as well.

O-line can’t even give Hillis room.

Oh my god. Run, run, pass. They know it’s coming. Now we’re stuck with 3rd and long. Again.

3 interceptions? What the hell is going on?

no creativity on offense this week. Is it because they are a considered worse team?

THAT IS NOT AN INT!

CHALLENGE THAT.

Block. Block. Block. BLock.

It hit the ground!

THAT HIT THE GROUND!

I don’t mind the balance, but run, run, pass is getting a bit predictable. This should be overturned, but I swear one official was waving it off already.

They’ve been acting like it’s already late 4th and they need to run out the clock.

I really did not want to see Carey get a pick on us.

Mangini will be challenging that.

without Cribbs the play calling is vinalia

Yahoo has it as an incompletion.

DAWSON MAKE THIS!

3 INTs, three 3 and outs.

10 points off of 4 turnovers. Mehhhhhhhhhhhh.

No, JAX fans, that was good.

I almost didn’t start Greg Jennings.

My opponent has him.

Same here. And I almost didn’t start the Brown’s defense.

in other news… bills are coming back. it’s 31-28. …………..

Let’s go Fitz.

Colt looking more uncomfortable today against Jags than those better defenses. Play calling, OL shuffle, or game planning against him?

Absolutely agree with Chris. We’re extremely predictable on offense. Announcers were mentioning the possibility McCoy is hurt.

Hillis only has like 2.5 yards a carry.

Didn’t he have a big run outside, or was that a screen?

Pass from McCoy.

Down 26 in fantasy. Geez. My WRs need big days.

Injuries a biotch.

the play calling on that drive was depressing – almost like we were going for the field goal starting with the 1st down. then we’re forced to throw on 3rd and no protection on the pass rush.

Agree – play calling looks bad – but if we do not make mistakes and they do – should end well.

The problem is is that we aren’t getting points off of turnovers. That last drive… the defense knew exactly what we were going to do. And when Colt drops back, the pocket collapses. Jacksonville’s D is keeping them in this game.

Can´t give Ryan enuff credit. D confusing Girard – getting 3 picks. You gotta be kidding me.

1 pick was MJD on a trick play.

We finally stop MJD for a loss!

This is reminding me a lot of the first two games of the season.

Please, don’t say that.

youll start a riot in here saying that!!! lol

Next drive, we should do the pitch play to Hillis. Did it a lot vs. New England, and only a little against the Jets. It gives us options to work off of that threat.

I was thinking pitch as well.

I really thought we would be able to run better against these guys.

FIVE TURNOVERS! Wow.

FUMBLE RECOVERY!!!

GOD CAN WE GET SOME POINTS OFF OF THIS? PLEASE?!

Nice to see Gocong

Their defensive line is just owning us.

damn good thing the D is stepping up here

seems like the offense is burnt out from the last 3 weeks all out war??

I think the main problem is that Cribbs is out, Watson is hurt, and the we are playing St. Clair.

Still trying to figure that last one out.

having st. clair in hurts our pass Pro. a lot of the pressure seems to be coming from that side. then again. the whole O-Line has been underperforming.

If we somehow find a way to lose this game being +5 on turnovers, I will eat my hat ala golanbatrac.

I didn’t think that the Jags were such a big time sack team.

Great. Another 3 and out coming.

This is ridiculous.

5 turnovers, 10 points.

This is ridiculous.

imagine if they had Kampman

Surely Jacksonville’s pass coverage can’t be so dominant to the point where McCoy has to tuck and run every time? I wish I could see the field more on camera; I’d imagine some quick hitters to tight ends would be available.

Chris, do you not to get to go to the games?

Just watching at home on TV.

Incredibly inept play by the offense

I thought Browns had an o-line – where are they today?

itr’s not all on them, mccoy has had chances to get rid of the ball. He’s scrambling and running for his life sometimes when a quick slant pass should do.

he’s getting wrapped up by their D every play before he has a chance to start his legs in motion.

Just gotta start getting the turnovers in FG range, I guess.

I know Colt hasn’t played very well, but that offensive line isn’t helping the situation at all. Their D-line has shut out Hillis too. Credit to their D. We should be dominating this game, getting 5 turnovers.

their D is getting to Colt every play for christ sake.

he’s not played well the second half, he’s not even looking downfield.

If we lose this game, I may die. 5 turnovers.

Rob Ryan will have a head coaching job next year.

I would hope that he stays. Build a defensive juggernaut.

Quarterbacks never look good when they don’t get protection.

I hate to say it, but our QB is playing like a rookie this half. It was bound to happen some time. Our O-line isn’t helping him, but he’s got to throw it away and not take those sacks.

Yup. I agree with you. Good learning experience.

What’s up with the Browns offensive line? It

Is this serious? 6 turnovers?

Wow.

6 TURNOVERS. GET SOME DAMN POINTS NOW.

But there is another pick!!! Holy cow!!

Alas, not in FG range.

This is going to be a laughingstock if we don’t win this damn game. Another interception. Our offense needs to put at least a fricking field goal on the board.

I’m going to be so damn pissed if we lose. It’s ridiculous.

Great play by Brown again. Second time he’s helped Ward get a pick.

They know we’re running it.

I want to see a TD off this turnover or I’ll be pissed.

3rd and long. Again.

So what did the 8-ball say about Ward’s interception?

At least they got positive yards on that play.

There’s that pitch to Hillis that Chris was asking for.

Let’s give their defense props though. They’re playing great football.

My God, it’s Metcalf-up-the-middle.

Robo….sigh.

McCoy needed to lead him there.

It hit Robo’s hands. No reason why he shouldn’t have made that catch.

he did lead Robiskie. the problem is it was robiskie.

It was late.

it did not look at all late.

even so, lets assume that mccoy made a mistake and it was late. if you watch the play, robiskie still has it in his hands and it is in the upper body area (not having to catch by his feet). as a WR in the NFL, you HAVE to make that play.

Yup. Agreed.

But let’s just not argue about it now. It’s over.

It was late. He gave the DB time to catch up and get his hands in there to break it up. He could have caught it but it was a difficult catch.

it didn’t look THAT difficult. even if he DB doesn’t get his hands in there, I don’t think thats a catch. the way it looked, the DB helped to cause the incompletion, but in the end it was a drop by Robo.

Bross, just stop. It’s over.

okay…I mean, I was fine stopping it right there, but BB had to correct me as usual b/c his view of things had to be right…

And you had to repond because you thought your view was right . . . .

We could do this all day long.

Catch the ball Robiskie!! Dammit.

ROBISKIE CATCH THE DAMN BALL. God. Good throw.

Not really. It was late.

It did not look like that at all.

We’re going for a FG?

Sheldon Brown showing his veteran play and instincts on both INTs

good decision by McCoy. He felt the pressure and decided to pass. too bad he threw to Robiskie.

MY GOD. THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

Jesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssus.

This game is just confusing.

Gannon was right, McCoy waited too long to throw that pass to Robo. Gave the DB a chance to make a play.

This should be a 20 point game at the least.

This is just killing Phil’s stat line.

But it may give Ward an outside shot at a Pro Bowl selection.

surprised they wouldn’t put colt in the shotgun that last play

I remember Robiskie as having great hands.

It’s not like he dropped any easy one a la BE.

You’re kidding, right?

The DB got his hands in there to make it a difficult catch.

I am tired of watching the second-half clogged toilet offense every game

This is painful.

I want to know where the flag was for the 2nd (late) hit on Robo after the ball was loose and he was on the ground.

I think what BB said above is accurate too. Colt is a rookie, they’re getting a ton of pressure, our running game isn’t doing well at all…and he’s gonna have games like this. We’re just VERY lucky our defense is playing out of their minds.

Yeah I agree with Brad too.

Can we at least TRY to throw deep??

We have. And the pass pro has sucked and resulted in sacks.

WHERE THE FUCK IS OUR OFFENSIVE LINE?!?!?!?!?

Nice coverage, Haden.

It appears the injuries and fatigue from 5 weeks of hell have taken a toll on the Brownies.

Great. They’ve got a short field now. How about we kneel down every drive and give it back to them deep?

so happy that wasnt Wright on the deep pass.

He would have been too busy blaming the safeties to get his hand in there.

Good play by Haden to break up that pass, but a better throw would have been an easy TD. We got lucky.

a perfect throw would have been a TD. that was not a bad throw. that looked to be an above average throw. yes, we got lucky a bit but its not like he capitalized on a terrible throw.

What are you talking about? The WR was wide open — they didn’t need a perfect throw to get a TD. It was a horrible throw, which is why Haden had time to catch up to him.

that did not at all look like a horrible throw at all.

The WR had Haden beat by at least 5 yards but had to stop to wait for the ball, which let Haden catch up. How is that not a horrible throw?

2nd and 18. Come on.

They’re going to go for it on 4th down.

Wow. A stop on 3rd.

Let’s see if we can get a stop on 4th.

How the hell did that happen?

Where is the damn pressure?

We just sacked him two plays ago!

Why shouldn’t they go for it? We suck on offense today.

I have a bad feeling about how the rest of this game is going to play out.

Ironically, this is pretty optimistic for a Browns fan.

We should be up by 21

that’s what happens when every second half you bring out the clogged toilet offense

Dont Break my heart Cleveland.

wrong team to support if you’re faint of heart

they won’t, they will stomp and crush it into a million pieces.

Makes you realize what Cribbs means to this team.

I don’t think Cribbs plays on the offensive line.

This game is an embarassment to the NFL.

This really sucks.

Yup. I’m right.

They will get a TD and tie. We will go 3 and out. They win on a late FG.

Stop. Think it, don’t post it.

We don’t deserve this football game, Win/lose, not happy with the performance.

is the screw Daboll train back? Cuz i’m always down for a ride.

it may be gassing up right now

Daboll can’t make the O-line block or McCoy make good throws or smart decisions with the ball. You can’t blame everything on the play caller.

I blame the o-line.

I give credit to the Jags. They figured us out.

Well of course credit goes to them too.

you can blame not mixing up the playcalling in the 2nd half on the OC. I have not been fond of the creativity of the playcalling this half.

That being said, if the O-Line was doing well, we would likely be ahead.

He tried mixing it up but we haven’t been able to pass OR run. What else is there to do?

I guess I disagree with you on him mixing it up. How many times did we go run run pass?

it doesn’t matter really. I liked the pass on first down to Moore and it was well executed.

But when we tried passing on first down that didn’t work either.

This game can’t be blamed on him. At all.

maybe, I’ll think about who is to blame later, but the offense has regressed back to last season’s level

Browns D is gassed.

they are probably pissed, 5 straight turnovers and nothing for it? ridiculous.

Floyd Womack better be hurt.

Big sack by the D. Let’s see if they can’t just win this game in spite of our offense.

Whewwwwwwwwwwww. COME ON DEFENSE.

The offense looked bleak right before that TD drive against JETs. If they tie it – we go down the field and break their hearts with a GWFG. Book it.

That was lucky.

4 down territory here.

Jesus Christ. This game shouldn’t even be tied. We should be winning by 20.

This is so Clevelandesque

Come on, where’s you spirit. We are set up for the Big Finish!

Can’t believe this.

Whelp. Colt. Go win it.

darlin, this is the big one! im coming to see ya!!

Alright McCoy, time to stop playing like a rookie. We need some points here.

Our o-line just can’t play with them.

Need some pass protection here.

If we’re going to make a drive here we need to not have smith return the ball and have us pinned inside our 20.

Just need to get into FG range. Which will be tough enough.

EVAN MOORE1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOOK AT THAT THROW!!! NICE THROW!

What the hell has happened to our OL? Who’s playing o the right side?

St. Claire.

Luvao at gurad not having a good one??

What a thorw and catch!!

Keep telling McCoy to stop being a rookie, Brad.

Don’t score too quickly!

Now this is a typical Browns game. Lost my feed too. Great.

I didn’t start Steve Johnson. Fuck.

I’ve got Calvin Johson, Brandon Lloyd, Greg Jennings, and Steve Johnson. How could I have known. Fuck.

Dont feel bad. i almost benched johnson for moss

I didnt either. shit.

They need to put him in Moore.

I guess that’s what I’m talking about

whoops
I guess that’s what I’m talking about

I’ve been wondering where Moore had been all game.

Oh man… big third down.

hey stuckey got out of bounds!!

You beat me by two seconds. I saw yours and canceled mine.

HAVE to pick this up.

COLT!!!!!!

His ankle is bothering him.

Oh shit. What a run by Colt. He’s limping though.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Great play by McCoy!!

Funny Thought

I never think a game is lost when McCoy is playing.

God do we miss him this year at Texas

Three QBs with bad ankles.

No way he’s going out.

Lets bang this one in for a TD

Colt shoulda used the cheerleader to slow him down.

Keep an eye on Mack. I know I’ve said it over and over again for the last two years, but he really struggles against a four man front. He doesn’t get beat so much as he’s late and not a factor in a lot of plays.

Guess he doesn’t see them that often- they need to work on it though

If Colt has a high-ankle sprain, I am going to lose it.

this

what’s our field position?

Looks like McCoy was playing hurt like the announcers hinted.

Yes he’s really limping now.

Wow the Bills have really come back against Cincy.

yeah. Pretty sweet game. gonna be a good finish.

Let’s just pick up this third down and run out the clock.

Scoring on the last play, of course.

We need a touchdown.

A TD run here would be so sweet.

Throw it here I guess. Might as well go for the throat.

At no point in this game did we ever appear to consider going for throat

TD to Moore. Calling it.

Oh just kidding.

We need to drain those timeouts

Wow. Our offensive line has just been slaughtered.

no time to do anything

Dammit Colt. You can’t take a sack there.

OL – not at their finest.

didn’t really hurt to take that sack

better than forcing something.

Take a sack? He’s got an injury and can’t get out of the pocket – why are we even risking a pass?

the D was all over him and it didn’t seem like he could even find passing lanes in time. I wish he got it out of there, but that was a total O-Line breakdown.

McCoy sacked. Didn’t see that coming.

Dawson, please.

WHY DID WE JUST RUN THAT PLAY?!?!? wtf?

do i even want to know?

fake fg or something?

We’re up by three now. McCoy took a sack on third down to quick pressure.

Christ. We’re making them look like the Bears (of ’85)

THANK GOD!

Come on, defense.

Should have run the pitch to Hillis, student body left.

Whelp. Our defense has played well.

Why O-LINE WHY???

Even when we can’t count on Phil, we can count on Phil.

Dawson’s got ice water in his veins

Ugh…I’m still too nervous. Come on defense, force Garrard into a bad play again.

2:46 ain't a whole lot of time with no TOs- need to cover those flanks

Scobee is a good FG kicker.

Really need the D to come up big here.

Time for Ward’s 3rd INT.

We’ve got the lead again. Let’s go defense!!

Why havent we been doing screens to Hillis?

They’re covering the flats with delayed blitzes. The screen isn’t there.

I know he hasn’t played great, but that throw/catch to Moore was so crucial.

Long field. Come on, Browns D.

Long field for JAX. We’ve got a chance here.

Bit of a hold by that Jag on the return.

Gerrard’s got a cannon. I thought the book on him was a weak arm?

they got time, but they also have 87 yards to go. thats hard to do even with as much time as possible.

They can get a FG and take it into OT.

only takes 1 play..

I’m about to die.

Browns need to step up and sack Garrard.

youve got to be kidding me!!

I don’t fucking believe this.

what don’t you believe? This game had an L written all over it.

I kind of wish he had scored there.

no shit, now they can run out the clock!

We’re going to let them score on first down for time.

That’s what I was thinking as he got inside the 10.

Can’t believe it.

I never imagined anything like that. God hates Cleveland.

At least we have enough time on the clock. Of course the way the O has looked – it is bleak.

Wow. Story of our lives?

Any chance we can get a turnover from the 1-yard line?

So, Has any NFL team ever had 6 turnovers and still won?

75 yards off a screen and pathetic tackling.

wow.

that makes me want to swear at several people.

We are the Washington Generals of the NFL

Just let them score. God.

Yeah. Let them drain the clock and then score.

1:16 left. We need a good return now.

This is awful.

This shit makes me want to cry. I wish I wasn’t out of alcohol.

Is there a point to life?

Dammit. This is wasting more time.

I cannot throw up enough.

i just shit my pants!!!

This should be your signature.

Thanks, Golan. You made me laugh.

God i love being a browns fan

We lost 30 seconds on the goal line stand.

So stupid. Just let them score! Can’t even do that.

Must put Joe Haden in on the kick return here.

stupid stupid stupid

My feed died. Alright guys, see ya next week. This is some cleveland football right here.

6 turnovers. I am just in shock right now.

Well this is another few hours of heartbreak that I won’t get back.

Exhibit 1A in being a browns fan

This shit makes me want to cry. I wish I wasn’t out of alcohol.

Sends glass of Chivas by PM

Id say get 4 loko. But from what ive heard about that stuff, You would probably kill someone

Drinks cabinet a wee bit low today.

Looks like I picked a bad day to give up sniffing glue.

Two comments on WFNY some this up.

We deserve to lose this game. The D played lights out while the O decided to not show up today.

No Cribbs and our O passing threat (yes singular) is gone and they can stuff the line against Hillis.

McCoy showing while doing good for a rookie, he’s still a rookie and will make rookie mistakes.

and


This was the harsh reminder how we are in desperate need of WR’s. Jacksonville was free to pin back the ears and drive hard at the line while relying on LB’s to pickup Hillis.

Jags didn’t think pass once today an I don’t blame them.

We deserve to lose this game. The D played lights out while the O decided to not show up today.

I basically just said this to my wife when she asked how the game was going.

On the bright side we can’t lose in OT

:-/

Really, what do you expect from the offense when your only real threat and third of your playbook gets thrown out?

So with that -3 90%… what was our chance to win this game? 99.9999999%?

Anyone just see McCoy fumble the water bottle hand off?

We’ve got 80 yards to go, just over a minute remaining, and nothing to lose but our chains.

If they can do it, we can do it!

McCoy getting some good throws.

God, GET OUT OF BOUNDS.

Of course he is, they’re in prevent.

2nd game in a row where stuckey dances and it hurts us majorly

Huh? He was trying to get out of bounds but the defense stopped him. Not his fault.

It looked like if he had sprinted to the side, he could have gotten out of bounds. He had a little stutter step there though.

That’s because there was a defender in his way that he was trying to avoid.

he didn’t run directly to the sideline. If stuckey isn’t being stuckey, he gets out of bounds.

Once again, that’s because there were defenders in his way. He did the best he could to get out of bounds, the defense just stopped him. There was nothing he could do.

the defenders were in front of him. I don’t remember seeing any on the sideline.

I don’t agree that he did his best to get out of bounds.

He was at least 10 yards from the sideline when he caught the ball. The defenders were in front of him but also between him and the sideline, so when he started running towards the sideline they were in his way. They knew he wanted to go out of bounds so they were doing everything they could to keep that from happening.

He wasn’t going to make it out of bounds no matter what he did. The defenders were in his way. He ran a little backwards to try getting around the defenders to get out of bounds. That was his only option.

This is correct. Barring a superhuman leap by Suckey, he was pretty much screwed. He could have intentionally dropped the pass, but you just gotta be instinctual and you never know what will happen after that catch.

Could have used some of those TOs.

Oh my god we have a chance.

That’s just gonna make it hurt worse

4 shots at the EZ

I HATE MY LIFE.

Good effort, though. God.

2/3 of Colts INTs were from Ben Watson drops

Maybe Moore should be number 1 TE

We freakin’ had a chance to win just now.

Six turnovers and missed opportunities.

This sucks so badly. This is just awful.

I’m not even turning on any NFL highlights this entire week.

That bounced off of Watson’s numbers. he should have caught it.

We wouldn’t have had time left.

Well Colt certainly had a bloody good crack at getting it.

Shame about the non existant WRs.

we got int’d?

There are a bazillion sites where you can track the game, play-by-play.

And yes, I’m angry.

Dont think we could have clocked the ball even if Watson held on.

I’m gonna go cry.

I’m gonna go punch something.

This has to be the worst disciplined football I’ve seen since the Crennel era.

for one game; they said early in the game that we have the 7th fewest penalties in the league, though i’m sure this will hurt our ranking.

I don’t get the play calling on that drive, what the fuck was MM doing sliding down to catch the ball and not getting out of bounds!

Also, stuckey lost us about 25 seconds

God. This is just depressing.

This game should’ve been put away long ago, but Colt actually gave us a shot right there.

What is this familiar feeling? It’s . . . it’s . . . despair!

You know what’s awful? We would’ve had 30 more seconds had we just let them score.

Again, anyone who blames Stuckey obviously didn’t look at the play closely. He caught it, raced to the sideline, and was tackled before he could get there. It’s more so McCoy’s fault for throwing it.

Yeah.

We should’ve just let Jacksonville score right then. Wasted time.

Yup. We weren’t going to stop them 1st and goal from inside the one. Just let them score and keep as much time as we can get.

Right, which is what I said above when someone said he “danced”. That simply isn’t true.

actually I blame MM for not getting out of bounds the play before.

I blame him for catching the ball. It was a bad pass in that situation. He shouldn’t have went down after it.

The ball was thrown low; he had to go down to catch it and couldn’t get back up to run out of bounds.

I think its both their faults personally.

This. he seems to have had a rookie game today.

Yup. Except I, maybe foolishly, thought he was going throw a TD into the end zone.

Wow. Jets just won on a late TD. Again.

ya i just saaaw that garbage

I hate thinking how we should be 5-5.

I mean, there IS a reason we’re 3-7. Our inability to keep leads in the second half has absolutely destroyed us this year. What’s even more disheartening is how well the defense played and then they let up that huge play on the final drive.

I know.

We played like a 3-7 team today.

Yes. What I’m saying is we should have beat the Jets. We played well enough to beat them. Today, we forced 6 turnovers. There’s probably a 99.9999% chance you win a game like that. So, we should be 5-5 right now. It sucks. Missed opportunities.

“you are what your record says you are”

First you learn to compete….

Exactly right. Our lack of talent on offense means that we need to play almost perfectly to score points. It’s easy to say we’re “almost” 5-5 but so are many other teams with losing records. There is a reason we’re 3-7, and it’s because we can’t put games away in the second half.

it also doesn’t help when we lose a weapon like Cribbs on offense and watson and McCoy are not at 100%.

Yeah now we can worry about McCoy’s health.

Every team has injuries. The Jaguars were without their best WR today.

no question.

I agreed with your basic point that we have to execute perfectly on Offense to win. I was just pointing out ways it may have been harder.

atleast the bengals got stomped….i guess

i am tired of losing the game every week in the second half

and finding new and interesting ways to do it

maybe we should start tuning in during the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter

UUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Rec because this sums up everything perfectly.

When’s the last time a team with 6 turnovers won? When? Ever?

I read it was the fourth time since 2000. Looking for source.

This game convinced me even more that we need to draft a WR or at least get some decent ones.

the game convinced me that we need to upgrade our offensive line

I’m seriously sick to my stomach right now. I can’t believe we lost this game.

Its ok because going through this pain from our beloved Browns makes us stronger in our everday lives..

then I’m strong as an ox in my everyday life, and tired of it. i want some f@#%ing wins.

Looking like the Browns Offense 2008-2009….

Major step back for this team. Probably changes the outcome of the entire season and raises questions on Mangini and Daboll again (ugh). Hate that something like this would kill our momentum. I guess half a season of good football is too much to ask for.

Yeah, I think Mangini’s job security went down a bit.

Why?

His job security depends on the team showing progress. We regressed back to the form we had on the opening two weeks. An inept team on offense that couldn’t get a drive going. I am not happy with what I saw today.

So we enter the game without our top playmaker (Cribbs), with a rookie third stringer (McCoy) at QB, A rookie guard (Lauvao) making his first start, and a BestBuy employee (Smith) returning kicks, and then our top receiver (Watson) gets banged up, and Mangini is on the hot seat again?

Our rookie DBs combined for 3 INTs, we forced 6 turnovers including the one Elam returned for a score, and lost by 4 to a team with a winning record who had already beaten the Colts and Texans. That’s still progress.

Our offense was outplayed by the Jags defense. It’s as simple as that. And get used to it. We’re going to be seeing this defense a lot in the coming weeks. McCoy has been exposed, and now it’s going to be on him (and the coaches) to make the proper adjustments.

a BestBuy employee (Smith)

This made me laugh.

Again, we had 6 turnovers. 99% of the time you win the game when that happens. I’m not saying Mangini’s going to be fired, but his security from after the Pats win to now has definitely fallen.

I think Daboll is done, even with what we showed the past five weeks offensively (minus today). Holmgren said he wasn’t pleased with the offense as a whole.

I really would like to know what happened to the O-line, because that was more than just John St. Claire being in the game.

Agreed

I hate to lay blame on anyone, but it seems to me if any blame is due, this loss lies squarely on the shoulders of the Browns offensive line. They simply did not show up for work today.

I’ve nearly convinced myself that Mack in particular, and the line in general struggles against the 4-3.

Everything about the second half gameplan on offense was terrible. They should be ashamed. I hate the way adjustments are NEVER made by the staff

To top it off, I’m getting killed in fantasy.

Time to go watch IND vs. NE. I need to get my mind off of this.

The Bengals blew a 21 point lead against Buffalo. Yow.

I sat Steve Johnson, and forgot to take out Brandon Marshall and Ronnie Browns and STILL have almost 90 points already.

If I took out Marshall and put in Johnson, I would be even better. I got about 45 points just from Fred Jackson and Santonio

I just hate how this loss overshadows a great defensive performance.

   There’s no use pointing fingers at this one, the Browns failed to convert when they had gift after gift given to them by the Jags. Five turn overs and you only muster 10 pts…not a good thing.

   Give the Jags credit, they did their homework, stopped the Hillis Train, got Colt good, and beat us out where we were vulnerable. The defense was near flawless, but they were on the field too long due to the offense not getting it done so of course Drew Jones ran all over us.

   Great game with ugly play (on both sides) with an ugly ending. We got walking wounded to tend to in the coming weeks. I can throw stuff and get upset, but at my age I need to hold on to it when it counts(the stuff I mean). We knew coming in this season this team and this season was a developing one and McCoy wasn’t suppose to be out in the field until year 2 or 3.

   To see him give us a chance every time he touches the ball; to know he is still a rookie and will need to hone up on his mistakes; to see him gut it out even when he knows he’s hurt; to see him make play after play when it counts I can’t be angry at him at all. This game, despite the loss, will only solidify to everyone on this team he should be (and possibly is unofficially) the franchise face of the Cleveland Browns.

   Thankfully we got Carolina next week (CAKE); Miami and Buffalo scares me as much as the Jags, but tip the hat to the Jags, they played hard and lucky. Move on to the next game. Go Browns!

Alright good luck getting thru the week fam. Ill need it after this. Happy Thanksgiving.

To echo above, won’t be around for much of this week due to Thanksgiving in CT. Just wanted to say, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone here. Remember to “stress eat” due to the Browns over Thanksgiving. Maybe thirds/fourths of turkey/stuffing will make up for this loss.

so my question is, if when McCoy runs the no-huddle, they move the ball on the ground and air, why not try using a little more often, at least to keep the team off balance, and you can still run clock. What am I missing here?

yes, but

The problem was less about the game plan and more with the fact that he was getting absolutely zero protection from his o-line for 90% of the game.

i completely agree with you, but with the no huddle, maybe the D-line tires quicker. There has to be some adjustment made in the second half of these games, because they are getting worked almost EVERY week in the second half of games.

I just don’t understand what happened to the o-line today. They are usually stellar, but I guess the last five weeks of going to war with the Steelers, Saints, Patriots and Jets apparently took its toll.

agree once again. St. Clair played TERRIBLE today on the right side. I never thought I would miss Floyd Womack

looks like he did last year when he started the first half of the season at right tackle!

I just looked over at the OBR and man from “Dabaoll is the man” to “Dabaoll needs to be fired”. True in some cases, but folks if we loose to Carolina like this then you can throw the kitchen sink cause that game should be CAKE.

I knew coming in this game this team scared me quite a bit and with good reason. I think one site said it best that if Hillis was under 70+ yards and Drew Jones was over +70 the Jags would win it. Score one for the stat boys and girls.

I need to watch The Office all evening. I need a laugh.

Seinfeld reruns work better.

Before my time ;)

I think they are equally as good in rerun form.

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