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Atlanta Falcons vs. Cleveland Browns - Official Game Thread (Part II)

The Cleveland Browns have battled the Atlanta Falcons close, but the running game hasn't gotten going. Can the defense continue to hold Matt Ryan to a low completion percentage? The Browns lead 7-6 at halftime.

 

 

VS.

 

Game: Atlanta Falcons vs. Cleveland Browns
Date/Time: Sunday, October 10, 2010 at 1:00 p.m. EST
Local Television: WJW/FOX, Channel 8 (Cleveland)
Announcers: Chris Myers & Charles Davis

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Any update on local radio on Seneca?

Right ankle injury.

he’s not on the sideline. it looks like delhomme will be playing the 2nd half

Have we only got the 3 RBs active?

Hilis/Harrison/Vickers?

I cannot help but think that was a mistake, with your main man being dinged.

Great coverage

Ugh, right ankle, not cramps :(

And questionable for the rest of the game

Sounds like Delhomme is in for good.

Wright was held on that.

I can’t believe that wasn’t called. These refs are atrocious.

Wallace is on the sidelines.

They just said it’s his right ankle and he’ll be out.

YES YES YES YES YES YES!

Coleman is god at scooping in fumbles!

WOO! kenyon coleman: fumble recovery master

Fujita punched that out with his ring.

Fujita has stepped it up

Anyhone know how Brodney Pool is doing? He went to the Eagles didn’t he?

Jets. Playing fairly well

That could have been one we could have done with.

Not a biggie but Elam seems to be on the way out.

no, to the jets. iunno how he’s doing. no concussions so far

Coleman is a ball hawk.

Cribbs with the throw!

JOSH CRIBBS!

Threw it right between the CBs arms.

Cribbs throws it! :D

KSU QUATERBACK RIGHT THERE!

Wow I loved that play.

THAT is the wildcat I wanted to see.

UM WATCH IT DELHOMME.

Kenyon Colman = Mr. RightPlaceRightTime

Phew.

That was bad.

Was there not a man wide open in the end zone?

Guess what. Give it to Hillis again.

Hillis just killed another man right there on the field.

POUND IT INTO THE END ZONE.

“FUCK YOU, I’M HILLIS.”

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

What the hell was that?

Jake not possessing the snap leading to a bad transition to Hillis.

We needed 6 there. I blame Delhomme for not getting it. Tough position for him though to have to come in before he was probably ready.

Hillis probably would’ve pounded it in.

I have no doubt in my mind.

Have we gotten a TD off of a turnover this year? Or just FGs?

just FGs as far as I can recall.

Hillis is seriously not happy.

I would not want to be on that sideline.

Good. WTF was that Delhomme?

thats better than nothing! hillis wanted that touchdown!!

Why FG???? Bang It In.

Take the points there every time.

so, if we dont make it they start at there 2 yard ine! i agree!

Nah. Take the points and play good D.

This. It’s tempting to go for it, though.

Dunno, in the circumstances, I’d have gone inside Hillis x2. I wouldn’t have even coded the signal.

Strating them on the 6" line is bad either from a D perspective.

With how the D is responding in the red zone I’ll take the 4 point lead right now. Need another TD soon, though.

Yikes, no wonder we didn’t start Delhomme this week — he hasn’t shaken off the rust. Thankfully Hillis found the football.

At least Phil inches up in the record books.

Well there goes my 21-9 prediction. haha

Alright, D. Keep putting pressure.

Seneca meet needle, needle Seneca.

That pass that Delhomme threw was scary . . . and stupid. Derek Andersen-esque

This is what we need to cut down on.

So many self inflicted mistakes.

Hillis to Delhomme.

“You owe me one.”

Hahahaha. Hillis. Love this guy.

We haven’t allowed a rushing TD? Wow.

Peyton Hillis was on the sidelines on the bike and yelled to Jake and said, “You owe me one,” with a smile. He’ll get his eventually.

Fuck. Sheldon. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Sheldon just died.

Brown took himself out.

Launching yourself at a WR: Good.

Launching yourself at Tony Gonzalez: Not so good.

I thought we got rid of Pool?

watch out for hillis on the next possesion, i think hes gonna kill someone!!

The Browns have held Ryan to 1 Fantasy point in 2-1/2 quarters. Thank Hillis I started Mercedes Lewis this week, or I’d be in serious trouble.

Thank Hillis, indeed.

My team is bad, still trying to find a mix.

I started Ryan, and couldn’t be happier with his results so far.

I just knew that I shouldn’t have posted this.

Really blew it for us there.

Clausen update:
4-8. 30 yards. 3.3. Y/A.

Make it 4-9. And a 13.4 QB rating.

Clausen is showing spurts of “Brady Quinn Syndrome”.

Does he have BQ poster in his room?

No, BQ has a Clausen poster

i see that “pro style” offense is paying off.

Panthers have to be the worst team in football by a decent margin.

The guy I’m playing started Arian Foster, Mark Clayton, and Greg Olsen. They all have 0 points. Plenty of time, though. Mark Clayton’s hurt though.

And this is why we needed a TD and not a FG. Sigh.

Saw it coming before the ball even dropped out of the arch.

Who was in coverage

sheldon brown

Brown. Had just come back in.

Safety help?

TJ Ward was coming across. Late, obviously.

With ward & Elam there…. yer on yer own.

None. Inexplicable.

Roddy White should be doubled the whole game.

where was wards help??

I wonder if Wallace will come back in?

I think Hillis just needs to run over everyone now.

probably, they dont want hillis to kill dehlomme!

Whoa. What is going on?

What dope wears a Tim Couch jersey to a Browns game?!?! That guy does not deserve front row end zone seats!

I’ve worn my Ouch jersey to games before.

Meh. It’s 2010. Time to retire it…

Very true. I’ve been rocking my Cribbs jersey for 3 or so years now.

I still rock my couch, and my Spielman.

yeah do it!! punch him!!

ahhh kick it to cribbs you pansies.

If Cribbs can’t give us any points or better than average field position, why did we pay him? Getting frustrated with his lack of production on ST.

When the other team refuses to kick the ball to him, it’s tough for him to do his job, no?

Yea, we shouldn’t pay him because every NFL team is scared of him.

When you take half the field away from them you should have a plan to make them pay though…. and Harrison doesn’t look like it.

In fact, this year, Harrison doesn’t loook like much at all… where’d his mojo go?

he gained some weight over the offseason cus people didn’t think he could carry the load. i think it made him lose a step

He’s had some attempts, and if no one else can capitalize on kicks away from him, he is effectively neutralized, no?

you gotta remember that he is also doing a lot of good as a wildcat QB and a WR

Looks a little better as a WR this year, but is hardly setting the NFL on fire. I like the guy, don’t get me wrong but would like to see more production.

We need to grind it out here. Shorten the game and get at least 3.

Are the Browns gonna play angry now, or frustrated?

mamby pamby land is cool!!!

ahhhh, it was elams fault for no coverage!

who is he who shall not be named?

LeBron, I’m guessing.

These announcers are douchebags.

WAtson’s been quiet?

Too quiet.

Royal is outrecieving him.

Atl shouldn’t be shutting down a TE.

Nice.

Funny how I said the same thing about Ward, and then they both made plays.

Say something about Roth now

we should just name everyone then haha

He had the drive killing false start.

Ask and ye shall receive.

What is going on with Joe Thomas?

Ah. You don’t get those details on the text feed.

So now I’m swearing off Miller Lite. Corona wa the first I swore off due to obnoxious commercials where the woman treats the guy like trash (I would have dropped her before the second commecial ended). Now those Lite bartenders are just plain b@){€hes. But maybe I’m just old school.

I’d never comment on a mans beer taste.

But do you have the Red Stripe ads down there that say “lime free since 1865”?

I’m thinking that cos tonights beer is not good and I’m gald I’ve got some lime to put in it.

Haven’t seen it, but I’m not a fan of the RS ads. Colbert uses BL Lime as a prop to connote less than manly attitude. Pretty funny.

Oh my gosh. SO CLOSE.

must be hungover, he cant move to quickly cause hes got the scoots!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

WIDE OPEN…..

What the hell, Jake

That was on Cribbs. Hit him in the hands.

That’s PI all the way.

Well that’s PI

damn right thats a flag!! bout time!

Good they got it right.

I’m actually shocked that the refs didn’t just ignore that one too.

That was a Wallace throw

C’mon Jake!!!

Jesus. Could a few more people get hurt?

meh. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 but I think you gotta go for that TD. even if you dont get it you’re playing pretty decent D and you got them backed up on the goal line.

everytime for me.

Unless you don’t have an OL/ power running game or big play D.

is it just me or does dehlomme like to throw into double coverage all the time?

There was coverage there, but still catchable.

Harrison is ineffective.

time to put in davis!

He ain’t there.

jerome harrison might be the worst running back in the league.

It’s inexcusable that James Davis is either not getting any touches or is inactive.

Why?

Your top back is nursing and injury and Harrison has been wildly ineffective with the little playing time he has gotten. James Davis represents a spark that this offense desperately needs, especially in the second half.

I guess I am just wondering how you know Davis is a spark. He hasn’t done anything in a real game yet

Why not try him though? Harrison hasn’t done anything to show that Davis doesn’t deserve a chance to try to overtake his spot on the depth chart.

You’re right, he hasn’t shown anything (or been given the chance to) in a game that counts but he runs hard and fast and can get to the edge. Plus, he can catch it.

Harrison tripped by Steinbach

This is where the game starts to slip away.

This offense is inexcusably bad in the second half.

Pretty telling how this game has been going with how much ‘inexcusable’ has been thrown around in this game thread.

Nice punt! Haden!

This is starting to feel like the TB game with the playcalling. Although it is obvious Hillis is hurting and Harrison has been ineffective. Need to see some Wildcat or some screens or something. We are way off throwing downfield.

How’s that for a punt?

You think Zastudil’s agent will be aclling round the teams?

At least we’ll always have ST.

Safety… let’s get it

Was that Earl Thomas?

Stop them on third down here. Make them punt out of the end zone and give us a short field.

That was a facemask on their lineman.

A+ tackle by Eric Wright.

Eric Wright looks very good so far this game.

Hairy Douglas Denied!

Great field position.

And now not so great. Ugh.

Good field position. LET’S GET A TD!

Yep… lets make it happen Jake

HILLIS!

Dabboll: “Oh, maybe we should run it!”

Just manage the game Jake.

breast cancer sucks!! save the tata’s!!

Grow up.

This.

My mom had breast cancer. It’s not funny. There’s nothing about it that’s a joke.

I don’t think that was a joke. They have t shirts that say that. It might actually be on the Komen website.

I didn’t take it as joke either

I read it in a different tone.

i apologize for not setting tone for that comment

thank you, i didnt mean it as a joke!! ive had a couple family members who have had it. sorry if it was taken the wrong way

Nevermind not on Komen it’s a separate non-profit.

Nice Jake. God.

Delhomme is abysmal. Why are we passing at all?

Jeez, Hillis keeps limping off then coming back for 10 yard runs.

OH MY GOD JAKE.

I am officially in Seneca’s camp now.

It’s stunning that we received a punt at the 50 yard line, even got a first down and are about to stall the drive well into our own territory. Embarrassing.

Jake should obviously shouldn’t be in. Fucking injuries.

Sentence structure fail.

so yeah about those disciplined and smart players we have?

jake’s leg is clearly bothering him. anyone think we’ll see colt?

I doubt it. Delhomme’s kind of killing us now, though.

How many plays does Cribbs know as QB?

I was hoping that would be the case after we out up a 30+ point lead.

Jake throws to Watson … Because he can?

Serious question, is Robiskie playing?

Jake is good at running out the clock at the end of the quarter. You have to give him that.

What’s the word on Seneca? Colt going to be our back up next game?

Don’t you mean starter?

I was holding out hope Delhomme could get healthy by then.

Way too early to speculate.

I just meant has anyone heard any info on his injury.

Ankle injury

Thanks. We have some delicate ankles on this team.

How bad can McCoy be?

Can Cribbes play QB?

Can Wallace play on one leg?

It’s official: we have a quarterback controversy.

Yup.

It was just a matter of time.

That took long. We could always be Philly.

We have injuries. I don’t see the controversy.

Wallace or Delhomme

Whichever one is healthy.

Delhomme when he’s healthy. Obviously, he’s not healthy, which is why Seneca started. Now they’re both hurt.

Delhomme looks bad, Wallace, the backup, looks good. Controversy.

He’s hurt. He’s obviously hurt. And he shouldn’t be playing and wouldn’t be if Wallace didn’t himself get hurt.

I feel like Colt should be in then. Not ideal, but why risk making his injury worse?

We can’t just sub Colt in, he is the 3rd QB.

Delhomme is rusty and still injured, so I’m not sure how much blame he deserves.

He’s having serious trouble moving.

Delhomme looks hurt. Not that he’s great when he’s healthy, so your point is somewhat valid, but you have to acknowledge that Delhomme is hurt.

Shouldn’t be a controversy. Offense was humming under Wallace.

Let’s pin them again and start over.

jake shouldn’t be playing, methinks. i wouldn’t be surprised it we saw colt at some point

I would hate to throw him into the fire like that.

We’re only down by 3.

I say we run the ball and go cyclone most of the 4th and mix in exactly 2 passes by Jd. Heck one big run changes the game.

Daboll would cringe if he heard this.

??

Can’t run the cyclone without Seneca.

True. Then go with the Wildcat.

We can’t play Colt unless both Delhomme and Wallace cannot return to the game becaues of injury.

Oh yeah.

I thought we could play him in the 4th and still bring one of Delhomme/ Wallace back if needed?

Precisely. We’re at the mercy of their injuries, and if they think Seneca is too hurt to return, then we’re stuck with Jake.

Or it’s the 4th…

Really? Sorry, I don’t know my rules.

No, Colt can come in just fine in the 4th.

Actually, it’s the 4th quarter now so he can play now and the other QB’s can still come in.

These announcers do know their Browns history. I’m impressed.

We need this stop.

Eric Wright going for Tony’s knees.

Why the hell is White so wide open?

What the fuck is going on. Why the fuck isn’t Roddy White doubled every damn play.

Good question from Chris Myers: How did he get so wide open.

So, is our game plan to let every big name WR to go open all game?

Ugh, if only Haden had made that sack.

How is White so wide open all the time?

Haden was not fooled.

BARTON ISLAND!

Fox in Columbus must be delayed by a second or two. That’s the third time you’ve reacted to a play as it was happening on my tv.

This just in: Cheifs Defense is for real.

Absolutely. They had some pieces in place last year and they drafted out of their minds. We’re pretty similar programs really.

Another knock on Savage. He had four years and couldn’t put together a decent defense. Pioli and Heckert/Mangini have both done it in two.

I started them today.

I sat them and started the Brownies’ D.

From watching the pregame shows, national media needs to adjust their understanding of Chiefs, Browns, and Texans.

Nice stop Barton!!

That’s an interesting spot.

don’t be stubborn, atlanta. punt!!

Going for it is the smart play.

Get up for this D

That’s a loooooong yard.

Nice work, Brownies. Roby Ryan had ’em ready.

Discipline. I has it.

I love how Ward was getting the crowd into it.

they were waiting for the browns to jump offsides

probably not a bad gamble

Well, we need the offense here.

touchback… alright. it’s a start. let’s see which QB comes out

How about Wildcat, for the whole drive.

Where do we rank as a team in return yards?

Starting field position would be a better measure.

Please please please don’t eff this up.

we can only hope not!

Not a good time to run out of running backs.

And quarterbacks.

Yeah, and QBs.

Can Haden play QB?

Ha! Morgan Freeman had an affair with his cousin.

They’re going to bring the house on Delhomme.

I feel like this isn’t going to work.

“Looks like he got it”

Um. Duh.

I’d rather he would have stayed in bounds.

It worked, but I didn’t like that play call.

Love the wildcat. LOVE IT

I hate to say it, but McCoy must be as bad as I feared.

No way, not based on today

He might take inexperienced to a new level, but bad is harsh.

He’s a rookie. Relax.

jake really shouldn’t be in, but they don’t have much of a choice it seems.

Hillis has to hit the hole harder than that.

He’s hurt, be glad we’re getting what we’re seeing now.

Must-convert situation.

Pass complete to Mister Third-Down

Stuckey doing everything we need from him.

First down!

Let’s go Browns!

Stuckey again with a 3rd down conversion!

Bernie’s going to lose a bet early this year.

josh is slow getting up….. jeeez!

I like getting Cribbs involved with our Qb’s hurt.

Stuckey 5 catches. Watson up to 4.

Where’s Robiskie?

Pretty sure he’s inactive with an injury.

Totally fooled the D on that one.

Here we go. 3rd and long.

Who was it that started the jersey problem thread? Is it too late to throw Stuckey’s name in the mix?

Wow, way to ruin a good looking toss O – line.

Steinbach got pushed into the backfield there, Hillis had zero room.

Hillis can’t be right.

Game’s over on one of the most embarrasing plays this season.

…That’s just a great play. I don’t know how that’s embarassing.

Exactly.

He was the only one even trying

Except for the lack of a tackle at the end.

These 3rd downs are killing me

Wallace needs to start from now on.

What the fuck was that, Stuckey? Bring him down and give the D a chance to hold them to three. That was idiotic.

I doubt a third down WR can ever take a DE down.

There’s a reason he plays WR.

To me it looked like he just ran with him to try and find an angle to strip the ball away. Didn’t look like he gave much of an effort to actually bring him down.

He probably knew that he had no chance of bringing him down at his size.

Really? No challenge?

You have GOT to be kidding me.

Worst play of the year? Methinks yes. Jake Delhomme is the worst quarterback I have ever seen.

This is a complete exaggeration and you know it.

It was a great play, but Delhomme does suck. Can’t believe most people wanted him to start.

I want him to start when he’s healthy.

He’s not healthy.

He was healthy for most of game 1 and didn’t get the kind of production we’re getting out of Wallace.

He was healthy for one half and he played very well for that half except for the one terrible pick-six throw.

Everyone’s great on the plays that they don’t throw the game away on.

Because it’s not like Seneca threw a game-losing pick six the week after or anything.

I’ll take the guy with 7 picks to his last 18 TDs over the guy who has 22 INTS to his last 9 TDs.

That was not his fault. Just a great play by the defender.

Ok – pass the pipe.

Ryan Leaf, every heard of him?

Here’s a hyperbole star!

Frustration. I has it.

I hate myself for starting the Falcon’s D.

Figures the first time JT has a 2 sack game it would cost us the QB and the game.

Ugh, my heart is killing. Both figuratively and probably physically.

Being a Browns fan will lead me to a heart attack one day.

The only reason to watch now is to count the injuries.

Hillis – that guy plays with heart.

Lets get a good return.

At least we’re saving our challenge.

You really think it was stupid to not challenge that? Obvious int

It’s not over yet kids.

I’m putting this in a game thread so I don’t have to warn myself.

Jake Delhomme is fucking garbage. I don’t understand why this front office/coaching staff thinks that he possesses the ability to be even mediocre at throwing the ball.

It was a shitty signing the day we made it and he hasn’t done shit since to make me change my mind.
 
You know how we laugh at the Cardinals for signing Derek Anderson? Panthers fans are doing the same damn thing at us for signing Delhomme.

You’re 100% correct.

He’s make some nice throws now, though.

Yup. The DA comparison might be a little exagerated.

In what way? AZ was smart enough to bench DA?

but no, B19K! He’s injured! Remember how good he was when he was healthy?!?! And Seneca Wallace hasn’t kept us in any games.!!!

/sarcasm

The bottom line

2 games played, 2 game ending INTs.

The Panthers are laughing all the way to a 0-4 record?

Really?

This is what I was thinking.

They have no room to laugh with Moore and Clausen.

We’re laughing all the way to 1-4. And yes, I’m still laughing at DA.

Stupid is stupid.

Who exactly is laughing?

If you watch DA play in Arizona and you DONT find it amusing, youre off your rocker.

I was referring to the first part, about how “we’re laughing all the way to 1-4.”

I don’t see anyone laughing.

Did you even read the original post?

I did. Just trying to decipher what it is you’re trying to say.

I can’t hold your hand through a follow-along conversation in the English language. Sorry.

While your sarcasm is entertaining, I’m not exactly sure you know what you’re talking about. But good try chap.

Ok buddy. You win the internet. Congrats, chap.

Panthers are better off because they don’t have to waste playing time on Jake Delhomme.

If Jimmy Clausen does suck, and early indications show that’s possible, then they will have figured that out ASAP.

We gain nothing with Delhomme.

You can’t blame an athletic play by a DE on Delhomme.

Also, who the hell else was out there. No one.

If you’re talking about the INT today, there was a running back wide open in the flat. Ten easy yards if the pass isn’t blocked.

I was talking about the Delhomme signing.

How about the guy who has outplayed him for 5 weeks? Already on the roster.

I told you Delhomme SUCKED

I told you all and I heard crap about how I was wrong, HE BLOWS, CUT CUT CUT

We probably didn’t listen to you because you type like a Troll.

Ok you are right my tyoing sucks, I hate Delhomme. I think with Wallace we had a shot today

This would be a great time for MoMass to reinsert himself in our consciousnesses.

Robo sighting.

ROBO SIGHTING. And he makes a very good catch.

Why is there no sense of urgency?

You mean like moving the ball one pass after another?

Seriously, get Hillis and Delhomme out of the game. Last thing we need is to not have them for Pittsburgh. Hillis, anyways.

Well, Delhomme’s currently trying to get us back into this game. I’d leave him in.

And there’s Evan Moore! Jake is spreading it around. Where the hell was this earlier? Did his ankle finally loosen up. (and of course he misses a wide open receiver on that throw)

Prevent defense my friend.

Damn, Delhomme is sucking us all the way to the goal line.

You suck at spreading the ball Delhomme!

Gotta do it when they arent giving you the underneath stuff.

The prevent by Atl could just keep us in this one.

I’ve never heard so many screw ups from an announcer as I have today.

The dude is a NASCAR announcer, no clue what he’s doing in football.

It’s both of them.

I have no idea why you keep calling him a Nascar announcer. Chris Myers has been with Fox for many years and announced many different sports. He’s not a Nascar announcer.

He’s mainly in NASACAR. I watch it, it’s the only sport he doesn’t sound bad in.

He’s done many, many different sports besides Nascar, and done it for a long time.

What the hell?

Joe Thomas beat again.

Wallace needs to be the starter from here on out.

It’s hard to be effective when your best OL is either giving up sacks or contributing to a quickly collapsing pocket. It’s hard to say this and not be confused and extremely frustrated but Joe Thomas shoulders a decent portion of this loss.

I agree with out OL performance today. But if you compare the two today, Wallace was much better.

Wallace wasn’t thrown into a corner like Delhomme was.

What corner?

Browns lead at halftime when Delhomme was inserted.

No excuse.

Until Joe Thomas got beat by Abraham who hurt Wallace’s ankle…

Wasn’t aware of that

Yeah, Joe Thomas has been made to look like a fool today.

He’s a mobile Qb though, not an injured pocket passer. A collapsing line hurts one more than the other.

Good point. But I still think Wallace needs to start instead of Delhomme.

Right. The comparison between a healthy Seneca Wallace and an injured Jake Delhomme by some people is just laughable.

Well now it’s an injured Seneca vs. an injured Jake.

Or a healthy Colt.

Yikes.

Ratty’s available.

Yikes is right. Looks like when healthy Wallace and Delhomme both bring some tangibles to the table. Weaknesses too, but both are better than last 2 years. McCoy might get a chance, though, if those guys can’t get healthy. Wallace must be really hurt to be worse option than Delhomme there at the end.

Can’t be any worse than Scapegoat, I mean Delhomme. He may be garbage but people are blaming crap on him that isn’t his fault.

Unbelievable. What the hell is wrong with Joe Thomas?

The worst...always happens

dammit

Dont see that often – threw it off the OL helmet. Nice.

Where the he’ll was the protection? Our entire line got pushed back into Jake.

That ball went off Mack’s helmet.

Our great dominating OL???

This game started well then just got worse and worse. Top of the rollercoaster.

whta the fuck happened there????

Our offensive line has been awful today. This loss is on them.

Yep

Wow. Just wow Jake…Wow.

Not Jake, our line.

Delhomme needs to go

Another interception, Just great. HE IS A RETARD

That wasn’t even his fault. And I think he’s garbage. hard for ANYONE to do anything when your line is in your lap.

And it’s been in his lap all day.

Wallace somehow got by.

WHEN HIS ANKLE WAS HEALTHY!

Because when he’s healthy he can move.

So was it the line’s fault or was it his ankles? If its his ankle’s fault then why blame the line? Pick an excuse. Theyre getting old either way, but stick to one.

Dude, Wallace could get away from pressure (line’s fault) most of the time. Delhomme can’t get away from pressure even when he’s healthy, but right now he’s basically immobile. It’s both, not either or.

Troy knows this. He’s just being a dick.

Its frustrating when you have a guy whose a winner and people insist on giving the nod to a loser. Thats what we have with Wallace and Delhomme.

Wallace has never won crap compared to Delhomme, though. Delhomme may be, and likely is, past his prime (maybe even past his mediocre), but Wallace has never done anything to be called a winner.

Wait a minute . . . which of those two is the “winner” and which the “loser” because I’m not really sure.

Wallace is 6-12 as a starter. He’s a winner?

Sounds like all the more reason to start Wallace to me.

Idk what you guys have seen in Delhomme that you haven’t seen in Wallace that makes anyone think Delhomme is anything other than a back up.

Sure, healthy Wallace > injured Delhomme, and maybe even healthy Delhomme, but that remains to be seen, not a sure thing yet. Doesn’t really matter though, until one is healthy.

So say Delhomme and Wallace are both 100% come next Sunday. Who do you put in? Im genuinely curious, not trying to be a dick.

I’d probably start Delhomme, but I wouldn’t necessarily expect him to do any better than Wallace. It’s just that for $8 mil, you’ve got to let him burn his bridge all the way down. Then, you make a clean break if necessary. But one half is not enough to make a call on.

I’ll type slow for you. Wallace could get away from trouble resulting from a bad line because he had a healthy ankle and he is more of a scramblers anyways. Jake is not a scramblers to start with and has a bad ankle – none of which is news – so he can’t make up for poor line play.

Thats all well and good. Knowing this, Delhomme should not get the start, even when healthy, as he can not move as effectively to avoid the pass rush.

He is the starter because when healthy he makes more and better throws than Wallace, and can even make throws down the sideline. And he doesn’t run out of bounds behind the LoS.

Pot calling the kettle black.

Doesn’t help when the pocket collapses the second you grab the ball.

Get the hell out of here.

That is a name I would have given to someone who blamed the QB because his line collapsed in front of him.

WTH!?!

They are blitzing to put pressure on the Delhomme, he is done

Maybe we should have given McCoy a feel for the pace of the game

who knows

J. Abraham killed us today

Joe Thomas needs a stern talking to – at least. And, yes, I am fully aware of what website I’m on.

Why does he need a talking to? He just had a bad game — it happens. What is a ‘talking to’ going to do to help?

And it’s not like Abraham is some schmuck. Pro Bowl player.

And there’s always that chance that a pro-bowl DE will go off on you, no matter how good you are.

It’s not just this game – it’s been a couple / few times in each game where he’s getting beaten like a screen door in a hurricane. And as far as the “talking to” goes, I certainly wouldn’t suggest benching him or attempting to slap the shit out of him. Both of which I was ready to suggest.

Well, it’s been great watching yet another episode of Reality Bites.

Well… let’s just hope we can get over these injuries and be ready for the Steelers next week. Is it in Pittsburgh?

Yes, it’s in Pukesburgh.

We’re looking 1 QB and 1 RB down at the moment. Did Ratliff sign elsewhere?

yes, i think he’s with the patriots now

Time to start praying for Wallace’s ankle then.

We should be pointing for the Buffalo game.

Well that was fun.

We should be pointing for drafting #1. Again.

Too soon to talk about QBs available? Hell, how about anyone on either side of the ball who can be a legit playmaker?

We’ve been talking about QBs for a while haha. Even before today we knew we’d be in the market for one. I dont think McCoy is the QBOTF.

How can you say that yet? Just wondering why you are quick with all your opinions.

Well, for one he’s not Holmgren’s guy. We basically just picked him because he fell so far as a value pick. Holmgren knows QBs and I trust Holmgren. That’s why I, personally, don’t think he’s the QBOTF.

I thought Holmgren basically convinced everyone else to take McCoy, though. Heckert and Mangini had other people in mind, but Holmgren pushed to take McCoy instead.

I could be misinformed.

And probably am.

Do you have no opinion of him? If you have an opinion, it was just as quickly formed as mine is. Its just different. Don’t let it get to you.

Yes! Steve Smith finally got a TD catch.

Brandon Lloyd had a monster day.

Yup. Hopefully Moore gets some points. But the guy I’m playing has only 3 more players to go, while I have 5. And I’m up by 24.

That’s good. I’ll probably have to put him in next week because Mark Clayton left the game today. It sucks seeing 25 points on my bench though.

Yeah. I should’ve started him over Moore. Oh well.

I should have started Orton.

I did do that. A last minute meaningless TD really helped me out.

I started Ryan on the theory that one of their receivers would have a big day.

I started Moore instead of Lloyd because everyone here told me to haha.

That was the smart play given the Broncos opponent today.

That’s what I thought too.

Exactly. I can’t believe Orton threw for over 300 yards against the Ravens.

I’d consider 101 yards and a TD a big day.

By ‘big day’ I meant an Anquan Boldin, Terrell Owens type of day.

Denard Robinson? That kid from Nebraska looked amazing. The receiver from Georgia?

Draft Denard Robinson — as a QB? In the NFL?? Is this a joke?

God I hope so.

Wow at Denard Robinson. Andrew Luck and AJ Green would be my choices for our first pick if we’re looking at offense.

Agreed.

I think Luck is going to the Bills with the first pick though.

We might just have to suck more than them, then!

We might as well just give our draft pick away if we would consider drafting Denard Robinson.

And, for the record, I think there would be a 0.00% chance we ever draft Denard Robinson.

We could draft him in the late rounds as a wildcat/ST guy.

You guys have a tough team

Good game and some very impressive individual efforts on your part. I wish you luck the rest of the season.

See you guys again the Super Bowl!

you know, after we both win our conferences…

Thanks. It is hard to say we are not better but we are still not good. It gets old.

Cheers Dave.

You guys made the plays when it counted, good luck for the rest of the way.

Redskins just got a 45 yard FG to tie the Packers.

Soooo uhhhh… Delhomme sucks at football.

Packers have a shot to win it. Hail Mary time with 8 seconds left.

Just kidding. Crosby’s 52 yard field goal hits the post.

Daaaamn, sucks for them.

OT in Washington.

The Saints have already picked off Hall.

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