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"Everybody had mixed feelings about (Mangini)," Revis said. "As a team, you can't go far (like that). ... We're men, we're not boys. Coach Mangini ran it like a high-school team where he wanted all the control."

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At least he doesn’t weigh 300+ pounds, didn’t come from the Ravens and doesn’t cry.

Srsly.

This Jets organization is just full of class. Didn’t Rex Ryan trash some of their opponents publicly during the season? And how many of the Jets players have some kind of a grudge against Mangini? Wah, the coach made you work and held you to some sort of standards, get over it.

Oh, let’s not forget… Braylon Edwards plays for the Jets now.

So classy.

I’m proud to be a Browns fan and glad I’m not a Jets fan.

You can say that again.

I don’t care for Ryan and of course I despise Braylon…other than that I really have no opinion of the Jets one way or another…unless we’re playing them that week.

Interesting since Mangini was the one that really pushed for the Jets to draft Revis.

I don’t really see what that has to do with this quote. Is Revis not allowed to be critical of Mangini because the coach wanted to draft him?

Where did you gather that I said he wasn’t allowed? I just said it was interesting.

No, you didn’t say it wasn’t allowed, it just seemed to me that you implied he shouldn’t have done that since Mangini drafted him. I know you didn’t say that exactly but that’s what I thought you meant. I mean, why else would you say it was “interesting”?

I just find the turn of events interesting that Mangini went from coach enamored with the pro prospects of Revis to a guy that his former players, including those he drafted, feel the need to still make comments about.

The sword does not need to like the swordsmith.

I don’t know when this quote happened exactly. from the sound of it, it seems like it was led in by a question about mangini. he has no motive to not show his feelings for mangini. why shouldn’t he express his opinions, mangini isn’t his coach anymore…that is why i take his comments somewhat seriously.

I doubt, because of the form of the quote, and the fact that revis isn’t much of a problem, that this was unprovoked. it sounds like a reporter asked him about mangini. in that case, say what you want to say…

if it makes you feel any better, i got what you meant.

Thanks, I didn’t mean for it to be particularly insightful, just an interesting turn of events.

figured as much

I’m not sure why he felt compelled to say it either, but the sentiment does make some sense. Mangini has admitted as much that sometimes, in his disciplinarian ways, he’s made mistakes.

On the flip side, you have organizations like the Washington Redskins where, right after the Zorn firing, a lot of players were complaining about the lack of discipline and different set of rules for ‘star’ players, i.e. Portis and Haynesworth.

Point is, I think generally teams needs some balance, where the pendulum doesn’t swing too far either way.

exactly…I think mangini could have used for a little more balanced and I feel he will maybe be a little more balanced this yr.

I think from what the players are saying now that they believe Mangini had enough balance.

players say what they are supposed to say when they are being coached…

Except all players weren’t saying that throughout the year. I think the ones that are still here do feel that way.

I think I’d generally agree with that. I think Mangini has learned some things and evolved to a certain degree. It’s hard to know exactly what goes on in the locker room, but he certainly seems to have a core group of guys playing hard for him, as evident by the team not quitting down the stretch.

maybe…I also agree with what western said…he does seemed to have mellowed out a bit. he came in all fiery but has seemed to have mellowed out…I honestly think he has more balance than when he got here.

its not like players are loyal soldiers to the coach who drafted them. they follow the coach that they like the best.

I think (hope?) that Mangini is smart enough to understand the mistakes he made in New York.

Yes, me too. No matter what you think of Mangini now, it’s clear that he made some mistakes in New York with the way he treated his players so hopefully he has learned from that.

This made me laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98

Wow. I have no clue who any of those people are.

I did feel bad for the last guy getting booed at while getting his jersey.

By the way, I have an update for you all…

It’s 9:57 PM on January 10, 2010, and Braylon Edwards still sucks. So do the Wolverines.

:-)

these updates always make my day.

Braylon needs to catch more balls so we get that draft pick. Only reason I was ok with the Jets winning. Hopefully, postseason catches count.

i hope so too, but i really doubt it.

Why not? As far as the article was concerned, Edwards single handedly carried the Jets on his back. Haha That’s an oxymoron, Edwards and carrying because he has to catch it first.

I don’t think postseason catches count. Too bad they didn’t tag it to drops instead.

And how far have they gotten without him? Same season record, but this time things broke their way and they make the playoffs. On top of that, the team gets a sweet opening round game against a team with no wind in it’s sails.

Let’s see how the team performs next week in the whale’s vagina before we start giving much credence to anything coming out of the Jets.

Really, the Browns would have beaten the Bengals on Saturday. That team was putrid.

Really, the Browns would have soundly beaten the Bengals on Saturday.

Fixed.

Carson Palmer: Is he completely hopeless? (I don’t have an opinion, I just enjoyed posting those words like all the Bengals news outlets have been doing since that game.)

I do enjoy the fact that for the last few years the Bengals were convinced they would have won the Super Bowl if Carson hadn’t got hurt.

Palmer’s regression is really pretty amazing, I think. It looked for a time as if he was going to be an outstanding QB, but now he seems to me to be generally below the league mean: occasionally has a good game, matched by occasional stinkers. In fact, he has looked a lot like a Browns QB in the last few weeks of the season.

In fact, he has looked a lot like a Browns QB in the last few weeks of the season.

The ultimate insult!

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