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Draft Open Thread pt. 2

Cleveland Browns Day 1 Picks:

  • Round 1: No. 5 overall--Alex Mack, C, Cal
  • Round 2: No. 36 overall
  • Round 2: No. 50 overall
  • Round 2: No. 52 overall

 

 

 

This is also an open thread for ALL of today's action! Please try to refrain from creating individual threads that state what you specifically think about a pick -- that's what this post and any subsequent posts that Chris or I make are for.  With that said, if a late-breaking trade appears while I'm gone, feel free to make a FanPost about it until either Chris or myself have the chance to make a front page post about it.

 

Lets hope we can get some quality talent in the 2nd round!

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So NE trades down a second time, and Green Bay selects Matthews, that’s one LB gone we can take at 36

I am scared that Rey ends up in Pittsburgh

maybe Buffalo takes him …

or the Titans …. although the Titans really needs a guy like Nicks

Donald Brown to the Colts

Wow, Wells may just drop out of the first round altogether now

If we could get him in the 2nd round I’d be ecstatic. Maybe we can trade up with one of our 6 rounders for him.

Actually, I bet Arizona takes him

i was gonna laugh at Peter King for leaving him out of his mock draft …. but he might end up being right

Outside of his injury history, the kid is a gangster. I think at times he was a bit of a pansy ass, maybe other teams thought the same thing.

IMO, wells to arizona.

How do you take Don Brown before Wells?

Buffalo selects Eric Wood, CB

OC, not DB. Glad he went before Unger.

another non-LB, still looking good for us for the moment

Whoops meant C, not CB

Kiper is right, whoever heard of 3 centers going in the first round?

I think its a mistake because I think Unger is terrible.

We could end up with Laurinitis in round 2 if Rey doesnt fall far enough

Is this still a potential pick for us. Honestly, I think the Giants are really missing the boat fit they keep this pick in leu of BE.

So is the big moment we found out if BE is sticking around?

Barwin, Maualuga, Nicks, Britt, Paul Kruger, Sidbury, Veikune, all possibilities throughout the 2nd round if they are still available.

well 7 picks in front of us, so all seven of those could go …. just kidding

there goes one…

and there goes the second on your list

Just saw the steroids guy you guys were talking about.

Those are his real arms, he actually got ridiculous infections from the ’roids and was draining pus from his own biceps with a syringe at one point. He is now upset because he has a scar from it and his arms are uneven.

There was a special on some news/discovery-type program on him that I saw about a year ago. Disgusting.

I have friends in competitive bodybuilding, and I lift myself. It’s not all muscle.

Giants select Nicks

Glad we didn’t deal Edwards. I guess its still possible, but I want to see him rebound.

what do you think nfl people know about rey that he’s falling so far?

Tight hips? Questions about pass coverage and having other USC players cover his weaknesses?

When the opposing pitcher hangs the curveball, you don’t question it, you hit it.

So with Thomas, Steinbach, on the left side and Mack in the middle, does that make it St Clair and Tucker on the right side?

Combo of them and Womack and maybe someone we draft later. Line looking a lot better if Tucker can make it back.

u cant count on tucker for more than a few games. he’ll retire in 2 yrs

So are we confident Braylon can come in, dedicated, and anchor this receiving corps for our franchise QB, Quinn? If I knew nothing about his “demeanor”, I’d be ecstatic at the potential.

I really think he hit rock bottom last year. If that’s not the worst we can expect, I think ManKok deals him mid year and probably gets more than Hixon, a 2nd, and a 5th.

I dont want Pitt to get Beanie!

they took mendenhall last year…i think beanie will be going to arizona.

literally zero chance.

I’d hate to have to root against Beanie because he went to the Stillers.

i didn’t realize that draft order was determined by postseason performance and not regular season record.

I think that is supposed to change next year.

This is true, but it always has been the Super bowl winner last and the Super bowl loser next to last in the draft though

Currently only the SB winner and loser are determined by post season. That’s why the Chargers picked at 16 despite making the playoffs.

thanks, rufio. seems like an odd system.

Totally. As Brad said, they are thinking about changing it so the last 10(?) teams are the playoff teams, which seems to make a little more sense to me at least.

Does this leave Robiskie as a likely pick for the Browns in the 2nd? I’ve lost track of which WRs are left.

Derrick Williams from Penn State too, not sure how high he is ranked though

The Steelers are going to get Rey

With Timmons and Farrior?

Farrior is old

Woodley.

Woodley’s strictly outside

I was just speaking of all the pitt LBs. Woodley, Maualuga, Timmons, and Harrison would be pretty good.

Jesus… That’s scary.

True, but didn’t he just re-sign?

yeah, but they can always pick the BPA

Pitts should have to forfiet a 1st for winning the SB!

Only hope is that they take Britton from Arizona or Unger

looks like Beanie to Arizona

looks like Beanie to Arizona

Good for Wells. PS. He should be a fantasy stud!

Does Hightower take some TDs from him?

I think when Wells gets going, Hightower is going to be a forgotten man in AZ

sorry for the double post

You are penalized a post in round 3

and does that mean you lose one in the fifth for using the subject line? Doh!

Steelers to take Hood?

Ziggy Hood to the Steelers

Steelers take Ziggy Hood

Not that intimidated by this pick.

And onto round 2 …. Detroit takes Louis Delmas S

3 more picks to go

Louis Delmas to Detroit,

I bet Rey goes here to the Patriots

I think you right

Does NE now have like 25 picks in this draft?

Man, do we still have a shot at Rey?

hope so. its destiny

Wow, Patrick chung, DB to Pats

huge surprise there

Wow. Damn I hate getting my hopes up.

I liked Chung, but I like Rey soooooo much more.

What if Rey is available and we don’t take him?

Who would be a better value? Especially considering we have two more coming.

Barwin is the only other guy who makes a ton of sense to me here. Unless ManKok is in love with a 2nd round player who I am not especially fond of.

wow, for once the commercial is not on our pick

Michael Johnson

James Laurinitis to the Rams! OH!

I-O …. shocker

Rams go Laurinitis

TAKE REY! Please dear God.

They aren’t going to trade down again?

Oh, God, please lord this is so perfect.

Everette Brown would be fantastic here…he wasn’t a top 5 but is great value now.

Can’t believe I forgot about him.

another fla state de? no thanks

Its just not fair to compare him to Wimbley. Two different men.

ROBO!!!!!

To be honest, I like this pick more than Rey, Rey, but don’t like it compared to Brown. I think EV. Brown should have been the pick.

Robiskie! Not Rey! Boo!

WOW … Robiskie

I’m officially upset.

Don’t like it.

The heck you say!

I think that Robo is maxed out. I don’t think he will get any better. He has had NFL level coaching since birth and he couldn’t get open on a consistent basis in college. That is a major problem for me. I think he is a 3rd to 4th WR in the NFL.

. He has had NFL level coaching since birth and he couldn’t get open on a consistent basis in college.

Either a total lie or lack of knowledge.

The kid cannot beat top level CB’s.

Please, name me the games he hasn’t had success against top corners. He had great games against any team that played man coverage, and that is the only time a receiver is “going against” a cornerback.

He kills press coverage. He gauges his speed and settles into zones. He does everything right as a receiver.

The problem is that he doesn’t have top end speed, and won’t be a number one receiver on a team.

Vonte Davis – 2 games for 6 catches and 40 yards. That is the only first round CB in the BigTen (other than Malcom).

You have your belief, I have mine. I hope I am wrong though!

they must feel they can get Barwin later in the round

or they don’t like him…you never know.

true, but I should have said a LB they like later in the 2nd

Hopefully either barwin or brown is there at 50

Apparently, the Browns aren’t that concerned with the performance of the defense.

yeah, i’m surprised not to see defense here, as well. they must like the guys they got in the sanchez trade.

hey

robiskie baby

The NFL Network guys are in love with this pick. Gruden just referred to the Browns as “we.”

Weren’t we thinking about him at 50?!?!

So, will it be rb or LB next?

at 50 and 52 ….. probably one of each

REEEEEEEEEYYYYYYY

my guess is with the 2 defenders we picked up from the jets, allowed the staff to take these two offensive players early

Great minds think alike, man.

The accumulation of picks allows us to do this..we would have had to take a bigger talent in this spot if they didn’t think we could get some defensive talent later. I like the strategy so far.

what are the seahawks thinking?!?

you mean the Broncos …. they dealt there 1st next year

Smith is illmatic. If he was 5’11" instead of 5’8" he would have gone a lot earlier.

Ok nevermind. Didn’t know about the trade.

wait, did i get that backwards? denver traded their no1 next year for the 37th pick?

If we can get a LB and Jennings before the day is over, I can’t say I will be utterly disappointed.

Broncos trade next year’s #1 to move up for Alphonso Smith.

What in the Hell are the Broncos doing?

they are turning into the raiders, colorado style

That’s really weird, Denver.

classic browns ca. butch davis

brian Robiskie

fuck that noise

When do we pick next? I’m drunk at a buddy’s house and totally worthless on a pc laptop.

13 picks, times a max 5 minutes per pick ….at worst 65 minutes

Rey to the Bengals

So I am glad we didn’t pick him because he is going to be a joke in the NFL?

Great. now we are gonna have to remember how dumb we were twice a year

Must be something really wrong with Rey, the Bengals took him.

If there isn’t now, there will be soon. There’s just something about the Bengals that does that even to good players.

He broke a guys jaw in college so I guess this pick fits.

Jags take Eben Britton, OT AZ

didnt they already take moroe in the 1st

Their offensive line was decimated last year.

yea but they brought in tra thomas

let’s see which player the Raiders reach for this time ….

I bet michael johnson

I wish we would trade up to the raiders pick for a 6th rounder

Patriots trade up to the Raiders pick

did the Raiders make a good move for a change?

Do the Pats ever trade up?

Thats 5 second round picks!

I you already had the 41st pick, why trade up for the 40th pick?

Looking at these trades, I wonder if we could’ve gotten more than two ^ round picks to drop from 17 to 21. I’m not complaining, I like Mack, but…

I immediately thought we didn’t get enough for trading down the second 2 times.

Ron Brace DT to the Pats

Thats fine we didnt want him anyway. They still have 2 more picks before us so im afraid they will take barwin

actually, they traded the one 2nd to the raiders, and the other one is after us

BTW, I was in the car and couldn’t post, but the Sirius NFL Radio guys were unanimous in praising the Robiskie pick.

why. he doesnt have much potential

What they said: 1) he runs great routes. 2) he’s a coach’s son who has “been on that field before.” 3) he’ll fit in next to Braylon, assuming he stays. 4) any guy who anchors the OSU 4×100 team can’t be that slow

They came out of commercial straight to the pick and weren’t talking about who else the Browns should’ve considered.

how does he compare to ted ginn

Darrius Butler, CB to the Pats

wow. DT, S and CB all in the second round. You gotta admire the way the pats have built their system to be winning every year and still have enough picks to rebuild their D in one year.

could we take Pat White at 50 or 52?

We need a LB and a RB

You could make White a RB/WR/QB slash type

Butler could become a stud. Pulling for that kid even though I don’t like NE.

Ron Brace is a great value because 330lb guys who don’t have a rep for being a headcase don’t come along too often.

Brown/Barwin and Jennings to the Browns, please.

I like Brace more than Raji personally

Jarius Byrd, CB to the Bills

ok rufio, we are seventh in line now, care to guess like you did last time?

I got nothin, man. Someone solid and boring, probably? If you are going to nail me to one person I am saying Paul Kruger if he is available.

It would be hard not to look at Barwin, Sidbury or Sintim. I think everyone knows how I feel about Rashad Jennings. Moala, Marks, and Gilbert are probably in play as well.

Panthers trade up to take Niners pick

Everette brwon to Panthers

I could dig on some Mike Johnson from GT

Everyone’s gonna start trading all over the place to get their picks now?

SF got a 1st for their 2nd and 4th. Good deal if they think they can be at least 9-7.

Niners got the Panthers #1 next year in the Brown deal

Pat White to Miami.

perfect fit. Miami runs a lot of wildcat

hmmm, i wouldn’t have minded him but he is a good fit in Miami

Vince Young is really really irritating.

Errr Steve Young.

I like Duke Robinson from OU at Guard. Totally rebuild our OL

We already have O-line, we NEED A LB!

Never can have enough OL

I know but we have NO impact players so far.

For a Browns D that can’t stop the run or rush the passer, it may be time to draft defense.

Giants select Clint Sintim, one of rufio’s guys

Giants select Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia.

I predict the raiders to go Michael Johnson. I really hope they dont go barwin

Houston took Barwin.

Mangini u suck. U could have had barwin at 36 then Robiskie at 50

You don’t know that.

Stop being dumb, please.

Raiders – Mike Mitchell, OU safety!!

Well, the Raiders are the first to draft a player that doesnt have a video associated with him on the NFL.com draft board

ha ha …. kiper says he was the 71st safety on his board

Apparently he can run. Thank God we’re not Raiders fans!

Damnitt, Barwin and Sintim gone!

so do we take McCoy or Greene at 50/52?

We definately need one of those two. I like McCoy.

Too small, unless you think Lewis can play another 2 years…

I’m back…..was very surprised by the Robiskie pick. Thought he’d be available later. Mangini must not have like Maluaga. I wonder if they would have picked Laurinitis if the Rams didn’t take him.

i shed a single tear for lauranitis… i would of loved to continue rooting for him

At least he is in the NFC

yeah have a point there…i might perk up my ears a little when i watch highlights and replays of STL, but if you aint a brown you aint ****

Broncos select Darcel McBath, CB Texas Tech

Paul Kruger or DJ Moore, please.

Mike Johnson GT or one of the OU OL.

I started this draft out excited when we traded down. Now i want kokhinis out

Geez, it’s waaaay too early to tell. Those guys know much more about these players than you do.

I hope ur right but there are no more good LBs

Its a little early for that, buddy.

Give them at least a minicamp.

we didnt get a good LB.

Seahawks, Max Unger, Oregon

On NFL Network, Billick just referred to his “crusty old woman offensive lineman mentality.” Huh?

Browns are on the clock

Haha, ESPN has a “which Raiders pick surprised you the most” poll.

definitely #2.

Browns select Massaquoi, WR

Mohammad Massaquoi..WR Georiga

Browns pick……Massoaquoi

Another wideout?

Massaquoi?!?!?!
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Two WR this round, does that mean BE is still on the move??

Goodbye, Braylon.

What are we Texas Tech ?

Are they both starter caliber?

If you put them together, absolutely.

I HATEE mAngini what an idiot

Stop treating this like Cleveland.com.

sory but he could have taken barwin and then massaquoi

Possibly, but it doesn’t mean he’s an idiot. He could know more than we do..just don’t jump to conclusions yet.

OK, once again, these guys know much more about those players than you do.

what are you talking about?

He’s talking about nitwit commenters.

Has to mean Braylon is gone. Right? Right?

Or that Stallworth’s legal troubles will keep him from playing this year.

We know that going in didn’t we?

I’m honestly not sure what anyone knows about what will happen with Stallworth.

I am less than thrilled

Ooof. I would’ve taven Massaquoi over Robiskie. Both? I hope something’s up.

What would they trade Braylon for?

Kiwinuka?

The Giants took a WR in the first

maybe for DL from Giants and a #1 next year??

We can still trade BE for defensive help.

We have taken ZERO defensive players. WTF?

But we got two defensive players in the Sanchez trade. Doesn’t that count?

I counted those guys as depth, not starters. I thought we were going to leave this round with two starters.

But if we trade Braylon do we want to start the year with two rookie WR? I don’t think this means we’re trading Braylon, I think we’re just getting depth at reciever.

Hopefully it means we can cut Steptoe.

Yay we get the Dallas pick!

With the Sanchez?Jets pick we take…

Interesting.

YES! Love Veikune.

There’s the edge rusher.

This is a big enough endorsement to set my mind at ease.

DT Veikune from Hawaii

David Veikune, DE Hawaii.

HATE IT

Do you like anything?

Yea. THere were many people i would have been happy with i just havent even heard much of this guy hope im wrong and sorry for sounding so negative

Nevermind hes not that bbad

That’s surprising.

Stop. Just stop.

we are browns fans we are used to being pissed off :P

Can we convert Veikune to OL?

2 time All WAC 28 TFl. sounds good to me

I’m done for today fellas. Check in for Day 2.

Anyone have a link to some highlights of this guy? i havent heard of him.

I love how ESPN hasn’t even mentioned we made a pick yet. Idiots.

From cleveland.com:

Veikune is a hard-working, lean defenseman with top-notch speed for the position. His speed and agility may necessitate a permanent shift to Outside Linebacker in the NFL. He enjoyed a very productive career at Hawaii and is the type of high-motor, energetic presence that can cause fits along the line of scrimmage. He sheds blocks well and uses his hands to his advantage, often times engaging first and dictating position. Veikune had some experience standing up on the edge at Hawaii, experience that makes him a versatile project of sorts if an NFL team wanted to alter his role. He lacks the elite type of athleticism that may be needed to shift to OLB, and due to his lack of size he can sometimes be engulfed by bulky tackles. Veikune’s lack of ideal height and bulk for defensive-end will likely lead to a shift to OLB in a 3-4 scheme at the next level, where his energy and motor will be well served.

I like this kid. Hopefully he plays well for us.

cya gang …. poker game tonite

I like what the Browns did today, If Curry would have fell to them what a difference that would of made, do you think?
 I like the WR’s, the DE from Hawaii is a good pick. Good Work

I was just thinking what would have happened if curry would have fallen to us

Do u all think we could trade our 4th rounder and 2 sixth rounders for a mid 3rd rounder

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