Besides the two-game stretch against the Bills and the Bengals earlier this season, the Browns have been destroyed in pretty much every game. The blame can be laid on many different players or coaches (receivers dropping balls, cornerbacks getting burned, no pressure on the quarterback, poor use of the Wildcat).
Despite the problems listed above, the Browns have shown the ability to be effective on the defensive side of the ball. There are instances in which the Browns are torched (against Aaron Rodgers), but then there are instances in which Rex Ryan fires back with gems (against Trent Edwards and Jay Cutler). We've lost both of our starting middle linebackers for the season, but veterans David Bowens and Jason Trusnik appear capable of picking up the slack while Kaluka Maiva and David Veikune hopefully start to develop more over the second half of the season.
The Wildcat hasn't been used enough, but we have the right player to run it (Joshua Cribbs - 19 carries, 131 yards). RB Jamal Lewis has a 3.6 yards-per-carry average this season, and he's made it clear over the past two weeks that he's frustrated. Considering how poorly our quarterbacks have played, Lewis has made the most of his opportunities. He clearly doesn't hit the hole very fast anymore and seldom breaks tackles as he used to, and maybe that is because he's tired throughout the Browns' "physically-demanding practice week." That's where Jerome Harrison should be the team's starting back, with Lewis seeing plenty of action as well (8-10 carries per game).
At the receiver position, there are no excuses for dropped passes that are in your breadbasket. When you're wide open for a touchdown and drop it (Robert Royal), or when you're coming free across the middle and you let it bounce right out of your hands (Chansi Stuckey), that's the receivers' fault. For the most part though, more of the blame falls on the inefficient play of our quarterbacks. Quinn generally went with a "safe" approach in his first few games and would fold unbelievably quick any time any form of pressure surrounded him. For the rocket arm that Anderson had, he couldn't even use it to his advantage. Any time he went deep the pass was over- or under-thrown. Any laser over the middle was read easily by the defense for a break-up or an interception. And forget the short passes -- let's wind up and throw a rocket short to a receiver, also leaving them exposed to the defender who is keying in on him.
Besides Derek Anderson's one "miracle" game (which wasn't all that great to begin with) against the Bengals, the Browns have failed to see efficiency at the quarterback position this season. If Brady Quinn can play efficient the second half of this season, then maybe, just maybe, the rest of the pieces to the puzzle won't appear so "weak." The quarterback could be the first domino that causes everything else to come crashing down.
Here are three keys that the Browns need Quinn (and Brian Daboll) to follow to have efficiency at the quarterback position against the Ravens this Monday and the rest of the season:
Sound simple? It is. With the pathetic excuse of a playbook that Brian Daboll seems to have had all season though, "simple" is what the Browns need to try to manage a score or two and then play defense en route to hoping for a close game in the fourth quarter. Maybe quarterbacks coach Carl Smith will help implement some of the basics, or maybe we'll see the same product we've seen all season. With the serious heat that the coaching staff was under heading into the bye week though, it would take some serious guts to go out there and willingly have the same exact method of playcalling that led to the team's 1-7 start. Something should change this Monday against the Ravens, for the better.
I tried to stay simple in my "three keys" for more efficiency at the quarterback position. Do you agree with my assessment? Do you have different "keys" to the Quinn's success (deep ball, Wildcat, running game, etc)? If so, sound off in the comments section!
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Nice roundup.
It is a million dollar question isn’t it? Can Quinn play well? Can they addres the three points you’ve made?
If they can I’m sure Robiskie & MoMass will come good; Harrison can become the starter (maybe with some help) and we can use a draft on upgrading the right side of the line to give us an elite line.
If he can’t we’re going nowhere & the two WRs are stuck in neutral going nowhere.
One positive on D is the amount of exposure Maiva & Veikune are getting. It’ll meane they’ll be online when the eam is ready to start winning.
LondonBrown - November 15, 2009
Do you have any more info on this? I’ve been looking for some for about a year now, haven’t gotten anything solid…
danvail - November 16, 2009
Harrison needs more touches. Quinn needs to trust everyone, and the coach needs to tell Quinn this is your team from here on out.
Grockcubs - November 15, 2009
I won´t back off.
It´s Brett Ratliff´s team going forward.
mooncamping - November 15, 2009
But it isn’t. Because Brady Quinn is the team’s current starting QB. Also, Derek Anderson is the current backup. Brett Ratliff will be the 3rd QB/inactive for the 9th straight week. This is despite having two quarterbacks that have failed miserably ahead of him.
These are facts. Please do not ignore them.
Ryan Kelsey - November 15, 2009
And you´re proud of that malaise, aren´t you?
Brett Ratliff is the starting QB, even on the sideline. Get used to it.
mooncamping - November 15, 2009
brett, please stop blogging and start preparing for the ravens tomorrow night.
Dawg Nuts - November 15, 2009
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TheRealSlimShady - November 15, 2009
Ratliff is INACTIVE/3rd QB. This means that he is not allowed to play unless Anderson and Quinn BOTH get hurt. Please, please, please do not ignore the facts.
Ryan Kelsey - November 15, 2009
A sad fact, though. I’d rather see Ratliff on the field behind BQ than DA at this point.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - November 15, 2009
And obviously, so does mooncamping. And that’s fine. Thing is, he keeps talking like Ratliff actually is going to start because he thinks it is a good idea.
Ryan Kelsey - November 15, 2009
Right you are, of course. As I think I’ve said before though, I find his affectations endearing. A lot of people talk as if their opinions on these subjects have some real influence on the world. Why not go the distance with that delusion?
RelapsingDawgCatcher - November 16, 2009
Exactly. mooncamping is a genius.
golanbatrac - November 16, 2009
Hurt or benched.
golanbatrac - November 15, 2009
Is this true? I’m pretty sure if listed on the inactive list, the 3rd QB can only play if the first two guys get hurt.
Ryan Kelsey - November 15, 2009
I think the third quarterback can come in, but if he does before the fourth quarter, then the first two quarterbacks are prohibited from playing. The third/inactive QB can enter at any time in the fourth quarter without penalty though, if I recall correctly.
Chris Pokorny - November 15, 2009
Yep. Bring him in before the fourth quarter and you’re stuck with him — the number 1 and 2 become ineligible.
golanbatrac - November 15, 2009
I doubt it.
It´s Brett Ratliff´s team from the point I said it.
Whether coach Mangini lets him take to field or not, he´s the entrusted with the players´ fortunes. And the larger playbook is also at his disposal.
mooncamping - November 16, 2009
Yeah Ratliff was so impressive in pre-season. I wish that were so.
HenryDawg - November 16, 2009 via mobile
It seemed that Quinn was struggling with his reads when he was playing earlier in the season. He either was missing guys who were open, taking too long to move through his progression, or prematurely dumping it off to a back for very little (or no) gain. This is something I expect him to be better at than DA – it’d be nice to see it in action.
APV - November 15, 2009
Yea, I agree. I think he might have even seen the guys downfield, but for whatever reason did not pull the trigger. We need him to be assertive throwing over the middle of the field.
Roger Dorn - November 15, 2009
my concern is this: what could have happened to make quinn all of the sudden a lot better than he was to start the season? if smith and daboll simplified the playbook in the bye week, maybe that will make a difference; but will it make that much of one? he still has to make plays and find receivers, regardless of how many plays he’s working with.
another issue i have is the idea that telling quinn its his team now will make any kind of difference. how does knowing its his team change his ability to make decision or stand more confidently in the pocket and go through his progressions? the only person that can make it “his team” is him, by playing well.
Dawg Nuts - November 15, 2009
Personally, I’m not expecting “a lot better”. I just want some improvement. He was bad in those first three games, but now he will be playing against worse defenses. If he just trusts his line and his arm a little bit more than he did earlier, we could be looking at – gasp – a league average quarterback.
Ryan Kelsey - November 15, 2009
good points, and i tend to agree. but i guess sticking with my original thought, i’m not sure what would have changed to make him start trusting his line and arm more now. i sure hope you’re right though. wouldn’t a league average qb be a treat, based on what we’ve had? league average would feel like peyton manning right now.
Dawg Nuts - November 15, 2009
I’d bow down and worship a league average QB at this point.
Hard to say if knowing DA was a league-leading disaster and turnover machine during his shot will have any psychological effect on BQ, but you never can tell. To know that you’d have to know if BQ’s lack of confidence had to do with a fear of looking worse than DA and being pulled, and probably only he knows that.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - November 15, 2009
I too would loft up a league average quarterback and lavish praise on him for his mediocrity despite this offense.
danvail - November 16, 2009
Playing as a league-average QB on this team would really require exceptional play, since the team has so few offensive weapons. I would be really happy to see that happen.
drjeo - November 16, 2009
Trusting the protection is the number 1 key for me.
The only one I’d add is the WR play. MoMass, Robiskie, Stuckey, Furey and Cribbs need to find ways to get open. They need to catch the ball when it is thrown to them. For MoMass, Robiski and Cribbs it is about running better routes and learning the position at the NFL level. For Stuckey and Furrey it is about looking more like they did with other NFL teams than they have since joining the Browns.
Also, Quinn needs to trust the play design and his arm to let some balls rip on outs, curls and other routes where he will have to throw the ball before the WR makes their break or before the WR is open.
Ryan Kelsey - November 15, 2009
We won´t win until we´re good enough. And we´re approaching good enough one new player at a time.
If you really want to, let´s renegotiate who is deemed good enough to win on our roster. We´re past the half way mark, time to rehash maybe.
mooncamping - November 15, 2009
Sanchise, 6 of 19 with 2 picks, 1 TD. Numbers would be even worse on the Browns. Good trade down.
Roger Dorn - November 15, 2009
Sorry 6 of 16
Roger Dorn - November 15, 2009
The Sanchise has now lost 5 of 6.
golanbatrac - November 15, 2009
Braylon Edwards still as many wins as the Browns.
Roger Dorn - November 15, 2009
3 rec 79 yards no TD’s and a fumble vs. Jax for Edwards
Red-Right-88 - November 16, 2009
When the trade was made, it looked like that conditional pick would be at best a low 2nd rounder. Now it looks like at worst a mid to high third rounder. Keep on losin’ Jets!
golanbatrac - November 16, 2009
What did that one Jets fan come over and trash talk us with? Something like “Rex Ryan has motivated this fan base more after 2 games than Eric Mangini could have ever had hoped to.”
Roger Dorn - November 16, 2009
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/15/sanchez-comes-to-press-conference-with-a-speech/
golanbatrac - November 16, 2009
Yea, they’ve experienced a big let down after winning “their Super Bowl” against the Pats the 2nd week.
Roger Dorn - November 16, 2009
I really want to trade down again if Berry isn’t there
TheRealSlimShady - November 15, 2009
Bengals have gone from 4-11-1 to 7-2, sweeping Steelers for first time in 11 years.
Browns have gone from 4-12 to 1-7. Quinn has a lot to aspire to.
palcal - November 15, 2009
the difference here is they had a lot of talent already as well as a franchise QB. cleveland has neither of those things
notthatnoise - November 15, 2009
Not to mention the last time the Bengals made the playoffs, Carcon Palmer was healthy. He as been injury stricken the last few years, and now he is healthy again.
holmes213 - November 16, 2009
Lack of fundamentals!
I wonder how many of those practice hours were spent with the offense doing things like…Passing and catching? How many were spent with the Offensive line and running backs? Lets face it, If the holes are there I could run for 4 to 5 yards a carry! How many hours with the defense practicing Tackles? The Cleveland Browns show a total lack of fundamental football every week! I played 6 years in grade and high school, I never, NEVER, tried to tackle a back or receiver by hitting him with my shoulder! The Offense…..come on! Catch the dam ball. If the players could just execute simple toss and catch plays they might find themselves in the end zone! This isn’t rocket science! Run the play, do your part and make the opponent stop you, not, you stop yourself by failing to execute the simplest of plays…
OK, I feel better, Come on browns, when I played I loved to practice, I was constantly trying to improve my game, and that meant hard work and long hours, but it was doing what I loved to do! Also the guys I played with were and some still are my best friends!
Maybe if you Highly paid professionals can remember what you were like when you were hungry, you might see your experience now with a new fresh perspective! P.S. A few of the browns are still hungry and it shows every week!
bassplayersayer - November 15, 2009
they don’t try any less than any other players or team in he NFL. if they did, they wouldn’t even be where they are. its about talent, not effort. everyone on the team wants to win, that’s fair to say even without knowing any of them personally. the team just needs better players.
Dawg Nuts - November 15, 2009
nobody in the nfl makes holes that are big enough for any of us to run for 4-5 yards a carry. the holes stay open for a fraction of a second, thats why its so important for a RB to have a quick burst.
notthatnoise - November 15, 2009
good article, chris. I think you’re spot on with the analysis, at least with the bare essentials. Another poster also discussed how separation by the receivers and better route-running (re: positioning w/ respect to defender, selling routes better, etc…) would help as well, which is also true.
For me, a relatively comparable situation has unfolded in denver. They are unarguably a more stable organization, but I find a lot of similarities between what they do and what the browns would like to do. Yes, they have a clear no. 1 receiver and better talent at the receiver position overall, but beyond that, the offenses are pretty similar. Knowshon Moreno hasn’t been a revelatory every-down back, their offensive line is not particularly stellar, and their TE’s aren’t making anyone forget Shannon Sharpe. Point is, Kyle Orton makes that offense click, a point further driven home in today’s denver game, after he was injured.
Orton delivers accurate short and intermediate throws – something we know was Anderson’s Achilles heel, and also something many overestimate about Quinn. Just because he can’t throw deep accurately doesn’t mean he can throw short accurately either. To me, that is an essential point for this team. Although the receivers aren’t the best, a QB can make his receivers better simply by making their job easier. Throwing at the numbers rather than the back shoulder on crossing patterns, not lobbing the ball five feet above a running back on the outlet, throwing low on slants – these are all things an NFL quarterback should be able to execute with relative ease, but have eluded the Browns QB’s. If Quinn improves this aspect, I think the offense overall will “click” much better.
**To take the example one step further, Orton absolutely BOMBED two TD passes today to Brandon Marshall, who was left wide open (literally, the defenders were at least 7-8 yards behind him) because Washington was playing the short game. It shows you how much an offensive playbook opens up when you do just one thing and do it really well.
Dawgger - November 15, 2009
Mangini ineffective
It is now time to fire Mangini before any more damage is done. Make Rex Ryan the interim coach and hire someone to raise a football fundamentals. Like Mike Holmgren, Bill Cower or Mike Shanahan
DavidG78 - November 16, 2009
What damage?
golanbatrac - November 16, 2009
I think he is confusing more damage to lack of talent, and Mangini has if nothing else, stockpiled draft picks….
Red-Right-88 - November 16, 2009
When was the last time the NFLPA investigated a coach? Something is definitly wrong. It’s not just “lack of talent”. We’ve all seen these players capable of making plays. Mangini is a horrible coach and seems to provide horrible coaching, teaching, and leadership.
HenryDawg - November 16, 2009 via mobile
Rex Ryan coaches the Jets, Rob Ryan is our DC but I would love to see him get a shot at Mangini’s job. With a good, experiences OC, we would see significant improvement. Personally, I doubt any of those super bowl winning coaches would come to Cleveland without being given GM duties as well, and I’ve yet to see that arrangement work well for anyone, including the Tuna
HenryDawg - November 16, 2009 via mobile
And yet… Mangini was the one who brought in Rob.
skipkirk - November 16, 2009
I quite like this analysis, Chris. Very convincing. Mixing up the predictable playcalling has got to improve the situation, and I hope the comments about Carl Smith getting more involved weren’t just lip service.
I never did understand why our screens faded from view during the regular season. Sure, we ran a few that failed, but was it so bad that we gave up completely? Odd.
RelapsingDawgCatcher - November 16, 2009
Hey, if DA was in there and he had to throw a screen pass, I would rather smear my eyes with mustard than watch him do that.
You know he’s not gunna get that throw right.
skipkirk - November 16, 2009
You know, you have a good point. But didn’t DA throw a few in preseason? I guess his regression has been fairly epic….
RelapsingDawgCatcher - November 16, 2009
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