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Dallas Cowboys vs. Cleveland Browns - Official Game Thread (Part II)

Part two of the game thread, here's hoping for a rally.

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Hey, fresh thread

maybe we an get a fresh game

484 comments in that first thread. Cool.

21-7 deficit at halftime. Not cool.

imagine how many if we were winning

For real, honest question because perhaps my knowledge of the Cowboys isn’t as great as it should be:

The Cowboys OL…are they seriously this good?

Yes.

course, helps when they get away with obvious holds.

They have three Pro Bowlers I believe, so yes, they are that good. Maybe not against a line as good as the Giants, but against ours, yes.

We should really attack their right side.

Don’t let romo roll to the right, their left side is better than their right side.

Wimbley should rush the passer every down and we should move him everywhere.

Anybody have an update on Donte Stallworth? Steve Sanders wasn’t even given a look in the first half.

only that he pulled a groin in warmups

Time for the second half…COME ON DEFENSE!

we need a turnover, we need a turnover, we need a turnover

Romeo says we’ll send extra people at Romo.

5 is enough. should never rush just 3.

ugh. and a flag too.

Thank you baby Jesus.

No wonder TO was so open.

Offensive pass interference on Owens…definitely a pushoff there.

Only after our CB put an arm on him

Nice! Hope romo felt Rogers on that one

Apparently, Aikman has forgotten the sack that was called back on the penalty.

I noticed that, too.

Andra Davis can actually make tackles up there?

Wow. Signs of a defense!

okay, 3rd and long… what’s tucker gonna call?

WAY TO GO D.

Much much better! (Thanks TO)

How ’bout that? We stopped them again. Go figure.

Alright offense….we need a TD to get back in the game.

Good field position. Let’s use it.

go for the homerun right here?

I would love to have Cribbs for some trickery.

Derrick has to be sensational or there’s no chance!

I came downstairs to a better computer and smaller TV. Hopefully it will change our luck.

If we win I promise to watch next week’s game down here, too!

Hey, it’s first down! Let’s hand it off to Jamal Lewis. They’ll never see that one coming.

They might see it coming but they won’t stop it, either.

He got 5 yards. Can’t compaing about that.

He's moving the pile better

Steptoe replaces Sanders as the #2 WR now…

We go for it here, right?

That was a pathetic use of that field position.

shitty throw, dammit dammit dammit

that was terrible.

HORRIBLE 3rd down call.

Wow. That was a lame series with good field position.

are we challenging that? I don’t have audio.

Good lord, what a waste of opportunity

i hate that we didn’t take a shot downfield there…

should have passed on 2nd. but its easy for me to say in hindsight.

Shaun with a nice tackle.

That’s what we need! Knock him down!!

I like seeing Romo wincing.

man, cleveland fans cheering romo’s slow getting up… i admit i love it.

Yeah baby, Romosexual is down!!

Three white shirts on Romo there.

Let’s do that every time.

man, we are gettin WAY better pressure this half

What’s up with Browns D-Linemen losing their helmets?

How did Shaun Smith lose his helmet early in the play without their being anything illegal in the play?

We’ll never see a replay – that might show the Dallas O-line doing something illegal and Joe Buck would spontaneously combust.

Yet that was a hand to the face penalty on McDonald? Eh.

Oh there was plemty illegal. But this is Dallas, the stripes are blind to their transgressions

Dude, we’re playing bad. Stop trying to blame the refs.

Not blaming them for our crap play

but the disparity between calls annoys me.

hmm

Dallas, 8 penalties, 57 yds
Cleveland, 5 penalties, 25 yds

Yep. I hate it when fans always blame officials and accuse them of be biased.

Especially when, like you showed, the facts are against them.

Who was chasing Romo sans helmet?

nobody in the middle of the field

they are picking on Mike Adams.

Nice play by Davis!

mcdonald again

That is suck a weak ass call. Soft.

Man, that’s the second hand-to-the-face penalty on McDonald.

Refs gotta protect TO.

We need to work on open field tackles.

Need to work on a lot of stuff

FUCK, sean jones wiffs

Why is Rogers not in there for that play!?

engaged? Is that what we call holding these days, Troy?

Dammit.

No tackling.

Put the pads on for practice tomorrow.

On the plus side, with Dan Patrick joining NBC, Patrick and Olbermann will be back together tonight. There’s that going for us… which is nice.

Loveb Patrick & Oberman!!

no thank you

n/t

At least we appear to have injured Romo
I agree. Patrick & oberman...2gether again!!!! Wooo Hoooo!!!!!!!!
What happened I missed it.

the game for all intents and purposes ended

Cowboys get ball.

Cowboys score a touchdown.

Do the details really matter?

Correction:

Cowboys get ball

Cowboys score touchdown.

Braylon Edwards drops the ball

Punt

Repeat.

I stand very corrected.

Time for some offense

Look a lot worse than last year. OMFG! Anyone seen this before?

We look probably as good as the first game last year, no?

soooo...we should trade DA to Seattle?
way better then last year

Yeah. 1st game. Anderson has lost the “magic”

And by “magic” you mean, the magic of not having 2 of the top 3 actual WRs active and having Braylon drop fairly easy balls.

A “very unattractive” bandage? Really? Ugh…

That’s some quality football reporting.

Maybe we can have somebody draw some smiley faces on it to improve its aesthetic value.

gotta love that in-depth analysis from the sideline

Actually, the “D” is the prob

Brady. Brady. Brady. (just kidding…)

this feels like it’s gonna get ugly

That would require this already NOT being ugly.

good point. 7-7 felt pretty good… way back when.

Is there anyone on this team that can cover Witten?

Yeah, B R A D Y ! ! ! !

No one can cover any ONE!!

Eric Wright just covered someone.

I’m really tired of a soft zone-2 coverage. I know man-to-man can expose weaknesses in the secondary, and we have plenty, but there seems to be some real zone issues when it comes to passing off receivers to each other.

Not to mention the tackling issues

the real issue is Mike Adams sucks.

SHIT!! Almost Picked!!

If he jumps forward and not vertically, that is pick 6.
  1. had two hands worth of Shaun Rogers’ jersey on that catch by Crayton.

Number 71.

I didn't see it, but you ARE allowed to grab the jersey within the shoulder pads.

these guys can man cover, just let ’em play

Wright with the pick, but runs it out from 8 yds deep in the end zone…

OK….there’s the miricle we needed!!!

Making *uck and Aikman STFU = nice!

Suck that, Aikman. It look like someone’s out there now, bitch?

Nice run by Jamal.

Lewis, baby! doin it himself!

And Steptoe even throwin a block

I have no delusions on coming back here, but let’s put a few good offensive drives together and another defensive stop, and I think we’ll all go into Hate Week feeling good.

Just make it respectable.

hold on us of course

Ooh, facemask. Something different!

Zebras keepin us guessing

One step forward, two steps back: Cleveland Browns football.

Catch the ball.

Run like hell, Horse Balls

DA looks terrible today. He doesn’t have any time back there, but still. You would at least expect him to Brett Favre it and throw really hard in to coverage.

In his defense, he’s not really getting a lot of help out there either.

that’s our first completion since winslow’s TD? jesus, really???

Steptoe caught the ball!!!

Steptoe redeems himself

Hmm..passing game maybe getting back on track?

Sanders with a catch.

Love that route combo.

I'm liking where this is going

Well, we need Pool back badly. Stallworth and Cribbs are likely help, too. Anderson’s been hurt by drops, but he needs to show he can make the consistent adjustments like on this drive or on the TD drive.

Do our QBs have the freedom to audible?

I’m more worried with his reaction to pressure, trying to force bad throws. I know he’s really only had one reliable option all game (wake the hell up, Braylon!) but he can’t always look to KW when he’s in trouble.

He’s like dark matter!

They didn’t in previous years under Romeo’s other coordinators.

stallworth being out has hurt a lot, i think. not enough to put us in it, but we’ve had one WR all game.

Who has Edwards in the fantasy league?

GET. THE. FRICKIN’. PLAYS. IN!

If Jackson or McGinest goes helmet-to-helmet with Romo like that, wonder if it gets called?

wasn’t helmet-to-helmet: Henry’s hand hit DA"s helmet.

wake up, RAC and C.H.U.D.!

How is that hit by Henry to Anderson’s head NOT a penalty? I know he slid late, but you can’t hit the ballcarrier in the head.

sliding means you can’t touch them at all.

The slide was late, but I agree, the QB getting hit in the head needs to be called all the time or none of the time.

Braylon, for the love of God…

I wonder if he thinks acting in the offseason was still a good idea.

Braylon had a great start to the preseason. Honestly, I think this is just rust from the preseason he missed, but its still frustrating.

This team is not disciplined at all.

Heads up play by Syndric

Should we put Brady in for mop-up duty?

Boooo!

Go for it!!!!

The FG Unit?!?! Thanks Romeo! I started Phil Dawson this week and he’d only gotten me one point so far!

Field Goal?!?!?!?!

this call by romeo is inexcusable. let him hear it, fans.

boo-birds taking a dump on this play-calling

Wow. Let’s kick the field goal and give up on the game. Does this staff believe we have a chance to win this game?

Jesus, Romeo. Why not just wave a white flag?

Odds that call makes TMQ this week? 100%

Maybe Romeo has Dawson on his fantasy team and need the points.

RAC is the worst game manager I’ve ever seen at any level of football.

wow

Romeo that was the dumbest shit ever!

Phil’s leg strength seems significantly improved this year.

I bet Tony Grossi still gets at least 10 emails asking why we don’t keep someone exclusively for kickoffs.

KJC-Gore is tearing it up. Unless the Colts score a gagillion points and none of them go to Marvin Harrison, you got me beat.

My team is kicking butt — thanks Marion Barber!

You mean “thanks Browns D”?

absotlutely the most ridiculous call ever.

down by 21, 10+ minutes to go and you kick a freaking field goal.
now cowboys are just gona eat teh clock….

ugh just put brady in let him play…probably the smartest thing romeo could do all day

If it weren’t for Patrick and Olbermann, and I swear I’m not proud of this fact, I think I might have watched Hole In The Wall tonight. Like I said, I’m not proud of that, but I think I would have done it.

I wouldn’t watch that stupid show if you paid me to. Well, it would have to be, like, a hundred dollars.

Looks like it would be sweet if it were all highlights, but they will probably really slow it down and make it boring.

I've seen the japanese version. gets old fast

I would think that it would. However, the first few times could be humorous, perhaps.

Did Wimbley get hurt?

Maybe the rules are that Dallas can’t get called for holding until our defensive line gets called for holding first. Because they’re Dallas.

Quit whining about the calls. The referees aren’t favoring Dallas.

Dallas: 80 penalty yards
Cleveland: 55 penalty yards

Yeah, looks real biased towards Dallas.

No Mercy; Fire Crennel!

Enough!

lol

Enough, indeed.

Quit falling down, Browns D. Chop your feet!

YOU KNOW HOW TO PLAY WINNING HARD-NOSED FOOTBALL? YOU PLAY FOOTBALL LIKE ED GENERRO PLAYED FOOTBALL. A guy who gave his life for this football team. He was a 140-pound halfback, and HE PLAYED LIKE A DAMN WILDMAN! NO! LIKE A DAMN RAMPAGING BEAST! And that’s the way you got to do it! YOU GO OUT THERE! YOU TEAR THEIR FRIGGIN’ HEADS OFF, AND YOU S*** DOWN THEIR NECKS! Let us pray.

“I’m for Generro’s, but then, what do I know? I’m a bear. I suck the heads off of fish.”

Anybody get that line? I’m betting no…

Kiss Kiss bang bang, right?

Yes. Thank you! There is hope for our culture after all. One of my absolute favorite movies.

Uh, I’m retired. I invented dice when I was a kid. How about you do?

If you need me, I’ll be over there talking to Native American Joe Pesci.

Talking monkey, yeah, yeah. Came here from the future, ugly sucker, only says “ficus”.

we get shit calls

but remember the first quarter…all dallas penalties.

i would love for us to play some f-in defense

We just let the Cowboys convert First and 30.

Wait for it.

wait for it.

On 2 plays.

In our defense…

It was First and 28.

Big difference.

Has anyone seen Corey Williams at all today? Are we sure he’s actually playing?

i was gonna say this

I saw him do something good in the 1st quarter.

And I retract my statement about the right side of Dallas’ Oline, I thought Davis was on the left.

in no ones defense our defense sucks. we are letting them run all over us

god i hate the cowboys

you and me both.

im so sincerly sad

theyll go for it and cleveland wont stop them THEN im crying.

good prognostication

fuck that shit. i hate dallas.
and romeo

Gotta beat Pittsburgh next week. I think they can beat Cincy and Baltimore, but I don’t think they want to start 0-2.

Giants did last year, and we all know how that worked out.

The G-men actually had a defense and were 2 deep at RB.

But it didn’t look like it during week 2. Or week 3 even.

Our backup RBs have proven capable to team up and fill in, and there has been plenty of discussion on that. The D needs to get worked out, absolutely.

All I am saying is things can look a lot different week 1 vs 16-19 weeks later.

yea…screw this.
see you all next week
where the fun in the division agains.
im glad i found a decent blog to express my depression of our team.

BTW

Thanks, Chris, for all your hard work.

i hope romeo/tucker chew out Jackson for about an hour. i know they want, but i can hope.

jesus, “won’t”

how long would you chew out Edwards for?

same, he did have as bad a game as possible.

Well, that sucked.

Fuck you Dallas

Get use to it

Long year just like it has been a long 40 years as a fan. Goodness, I can’t recall a Browns team when the “D” took the field, I could say " Hey we are going to get the ball back on a 3 in out" This team is no different. Same crap, all talk. And NO discipline and that is on Romeo.
 God Iove this team, but truth hurts. They are overated and not that good.
Oh and Phil signed Romeo to an extention, nice job.

Go comment on Bud Shaw's articles.
Truth sucks sometimes.

If you think this team will make the playoffs your kidding yourself. And with Romeo running the ship, this team will not improve.

So give up, keep your defeatist attitude about the Browns, and cheer for a team that is winning.

The Browns are the Browns, and I will cheer for them and hope that they can win regardless if they are 15-0 or 0-15. After 40 years I will feel the same way, unlike you.

Losing one game to arguably the most talented roster in the NFL doesn’t mean this team “isn’t that good”.

As a fan, the only impact you can actually have on a game is in helping create a die-hard, loyal atmosphere. Calling for heads, panicking, talking about how it will always be the same losing atmosphere in Cleveland, and overreacting negatively take that small chance you have to help the team and bury it.

You know I root for this team hard and I love the orange helmet like the majority of the fans.
 However when you see repeated mistakes year after year after year the crap gets old. You look at the Steelers, who we all can’t stand, they win year after year. They treat the draft like life and death, and they don’t bring in overpriced overated players. They are consistent and good.
 Thats fine if you want to sit back and cheer for them when they go 2-14 or 9-7. I choose not to. I see this franchise one of the gems in the NFL, being run poorly from top to bottom, and it is tough to take.
 If you think this team the way this roster is consituted, is going to make the playoffs or even go 8-8 then you are watching this team with blinders on.
 My biggest beef with this team is Romeo. He is a coordinator not a head coach. The day Bill Cowher left Pittsburgh, was the day the Browns should of made him the highest paid coach in NFL history.
 I understand where your coming from, and I respect that. I look at this team differently. How many teams in the NFL have not gone to the Super Bowl? Houston, Jacksonville ( expansion) Arizona/ST.Louis Cardinals, Saints and our Beloved Browns. Pretty sad.

Frankly...

As a Cowboys fan, I was worried about this game when I saw the schedule. There are a lot of similarities between the two teams, especially on offense. Clearly, there was no chemistry between Edwards and Anderson, but I think that will come as the season wears on. If Edwards catches that deep ball early, this is a much closer game than it turned out.

So I think many of you are getting down on them too soon. Brady looks like he is done, the Chargers lost a tight one and don’t look like they can stop the run, Indy is beatable and the Jags offense is not potent. You have several new players up front on defense and young guys in the secondary. And I saw a different defensive front seven in the second half than in the first. Lots can happen in 15 games, especially if you stay healthier than the other AFC contenders.

I think your big game is next week against Pittsburgh and, from my vantage point, you match up much better with them than you do Dallas. In fact, I’m picking Cleveland to win.

Thanks for the kind words of encouragement. The fact is, this is probably the toughest game on our schedule and with our additions we’re definitely not in “mid season” form yet (though, the same could be said of the Cowboys, scary thought). Either way, we were just beaten handily by a better football team.

I don’t think the talent gap between the two teams is quite as wide as today’s one sided contest, but regardless of that Dallas looks like the class of the NFC, at the very least.

Thanks for being a classy fan.

You guys were clearly the better team today, and deserved the win.

A lot of fans in Cleveland just look for reasons to feel sorry for themselves and be negative. The tradition of not winning championships adds to that tendency. Even when the Cavs make the playoffs or even the NBA finals fans are calling for coaches and GMs heads and sometimes can’t enjoy the fact that their team is growing or improving because they are convinced they will never win the big one.

You are right, lots can happen.

Gotta Have Faith

Lou Holtz-“I f you don’t make a total commitment to whatever you’re doing, then you start looking to bail out the first time the boat starts leaking. It’s tough enough getting that boat to shore with everybody rowing, let alone when a guy stands up and starts putting his jacket on.”

I did not see anything

better than what we saw in the pre-season. There effort was better, maybe but they were clearly outmanned. I just hope they can turn it around next week. They better be prepared to play hard from the opening gun and not wait for the D-line to generate a rush until the second half. You know the the Stilllers will score a ton if BR has all day to throw.

just beat the Steelers next week

no shame in losing to eventual SB champs, no shame at all.

but aren’t we the eventual SB champs?

LOL at least you have your sense of humor

Go preen on your own blog.

The Cowboys fan that posted earlier (classy post BTW) brught up a good point regarding most of the “elite” teams of the AFC. Out of the Chargers, Colts, Jags, Pats and Steelers only the Steelers really looked to be firing on all cylinders.

Granted, if we don’t drastically improve our play it won’t matter how bad the Colts or Chargers play because we will be 5 – 11 and out of the playoff race by mid season but 4 out of the 5 “elite” teams played mediocre tawful football yesterday and one lost their QB for the year. Gives us som hope if we can turn it around

The only bad thing about Brady potentially being done for the season is that he won’t be there to beat the steelers.

Vince Young also appears hurt…but I am not sure if that hurts or helps Tennessee’s chances.

Brady out for year…. That may be the end for my fantasy team in the DBN league.

While it was a nice thing to say, it is far, far better to end strong (provided you don’t start so poorly that it doesn’t matter anymore), than to start strong.

Super Bowl XL wasn’t won by the best team in the NFL in 2005 (not saying they weren’t, just making a point), it was won by a team that had a strong tailwind and one hell of a roll in the playoffs. They are clearly firing on all cylinders, but only time and fate will tell whether that will translate into a late-season letdown or a dominant, season-long performance.

You guys have some holes to fill, but I can’t believe in a Cleveland team, no matter the roster, until Romeo is up and gone. He is a loser, and I mean that in the scoreboard way, not the smells like cheese way.

But he probably smells like cheese, too.

Little note: Review of the game coming a little later today.

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